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Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: bluemoco on June 04, 2008, 01:07:22 PM

Title: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: bluemoco on June 04, 2008, 01:07:22 PM
I don't know why, but I feel like I need one of these (http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/products/modelhome/23/0/home.aspx).

(http://www.starmotorcycles.com/assets/content/images/600/09ST_VMAX_A2_307_0d7ca066.jpg)

Rumored output is ~200hp, propelling the bike to a 1/4 mile time of around 10 seconds flat.

Doesn't that sound like fun?  [evil]   ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Grampa on June 04, 2008, 01:09:30 PM
my brother just sold his
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Thudias on June 04, 2008, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on June 04, 2008, 01:09:30 PM
my brother just sold his

Why did he sell?
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Grampa on June 04, 2008, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: Thudias on June 04, 2008, 01:11:45 PM
Why did he sell?

he's a tard. He buys stuff.... keeps it for a lil bit then gets something different. He's got a Harley XLFLYTHB%$# something.

He put pipes on the vmax, and had the engine tweeked a bit, but said he was never happy with how the bike ran.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Thudias on June 04, 2008, 01:17:04 PM
Ahh so it wasn't because it was a bad bike. 
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: bluemoco on June 04, 2008, 01:18:11 PM
I've ridden on the 'old' Vmax, and it wasn't very satisfying.  I can understand why your bro sold it, BP.  That bike was available for ~20 years, with very few changes/improvements made to it during its lifetime. 

The new one is due in showrooms in November. 
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Grampa on June 04, 2008, 01:18:28 PM
Quote from: Thudias on June 04, 2008, 01:17:04 PM
Ahh so it wasn't because it was a bad bike. 

Not that I ever heard him say. It's a point and go fast bike.... not a turner.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Grampa on June 04, 2008, 01:22:43 PM
his new bike

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/bobspapa/100_0959.jpg?t=1212610908)
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: bluemoco on June 04, 2008, 01:24:36 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on June 04, 2008, 01:22:43 PM
his new bike

which is just a 'point and go' bike
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Grampa on June 04, 2008, 01:29:08 PM
Quote from: bluemoco v2.0 on June 04, 2008, 01:24:36 PM
which is just a 'point and go' bike

point and go sloooooooooowly to a bar bike

but the fuel cap and fuel lights are cool

(the skull on the left has lights in the teeth the light up to tell you how much fuel is left in the tank.


(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/bobspapa/100_0960.jpg?t=1212611239)

Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: OddBall on June 04, 2008, 02:35:06 PM
Weren't the old models 10.5 seconds or so in the quarter? So she only gained 1/2 sec. I'd hope them mean more like 9 flat.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: bluemoco on June 04, 2008, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: OddBall on June 04, 2008, 02:35:06 PM
Weren't the old models 10.5 seconds or so in the quarter? So she only gained 1/2 sec. I'd hope them mean more like 9 flat.

It could very well do a 1/4 mile in the 9's.  I don't think that the magazines have had a chance to test the new VMAX yet, but that should come soon.

The old VMAX had what, 145 hp?  The new one makes 197 hp.  I'd expect it to be a bit quicker...   [evil] 
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: SteveH on June 04, 2008, 03:28:41 PM
Awesome - I like it.  Plus I can swap headlights with my 696 if it ever breaks !
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: NuTTs on June 04, 2008, 03:35:02 PM
O.M.F.G!!!  [evil]  ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: NeufUnSix on June 04, 2008, 03:59:10 PM
1700ccs. Sweet zombie Jesus.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: ROBsS4R on June 04, 2008, 04:06:28 PM

I dig that bike and with a seat height of 30.5 I can fit on it to.

But if I had 18k to spend on a bike I would get a 1098 first  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: NuTTs on June 04, 2008, 04:31:28 PM
Quote from: NuTTs on June 04, 2008, 03:35:02 PM
O.M.F.G!!!  [evil]  ;D

685lbs.. that's 310kg dry, WTF? You'd need 200hp to make that thing move. The Triumph Rocket III has 140hp for around 300kg and it moves ok.

I miss my old VMAX. 265kg dry and a chassis that twisted when you did a hard launch.. and those lollypop style indicators. Classic
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Scottish on June 04, 2008, 04:55:02 PM
Why is every manufacturer going to those make the beast with two backstarded headlights?? I hate those. Also looks like Yamaha stole the ugliest part of the Kawk Z1000, the fugly exhaust cans.  [roll] Other than that I reckon it's a beast.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Monstro on June 04, 2008, 04:57:22 PM
The old V max used to go just straight ahead. No turns at all. I rode one once.
This one is probably the same... [coffee]
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: m1moto on June 04, 2008, 05:01:15 PM

+1 The old V max used to go just straight ahead. No turns at all. I rode one once.
...and the sound like crap no matter what exhaust they have
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: teddy037.2 on June 04, 2008, 09:25:06 PM
rode my friend's vmax the other week (it was an older one, he bought it used), and I thought it cornered just fine.

was I comparing it to the duc? hellz, no.  is it possible that it wasn't completely stock? sure.

but it shot forward, slowed down, and turned well enough that I had a big ol'grin while riding, and it reinforced the fact that I want one for my garage. when I have a garage.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: NuTTs on June 05, 2008, 04:08:35 AM
Quote from: teddy037.2 on June 04, 2008, 09:25:06 PM
rode my friend's vmax the other week (it was an older one, he bought it used), and I thought it cornered just fine.

was I comparing it to the duc? hellz, no.  is it possible that it wasn't completely stock? sure.

but it shot forward, slowed down, and turned well enough that I had a big ol'grin while riding, and it reinforced the fact that I want one for my garage. when I have a garage.
I had a VMAX, it was my second bike after the ZZR250.. haha from 33hp to 145hp. It cornered fine, braked ok.

It's not a Ducati... it's not a sportsbike. It's much more than a Harley, to me.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Travman on June 05, 2008, 05:00:06 AM
I just read this new VMax article and the thought that struck me is this bike is at least 10 years overdue.  It has been so long now that nobody is going to care or buy one especially at $18K. 

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=6556&Page=1

The bike looks heavy.  It looks like there is more rake which won't help handling.  The headlight is the same stupid looking headlight started by the V-Rod.  I never really liked the fake side scoops and now they look twice as big.  The exhaust looks horrible.  It is great that mufflers are made with titanium, but now you will be throwing away expensive mufflers when you replace them with aftermarket mufflers.  The rear fender looks exactly the same as 1985.  It looks like a caricature of a motorcycle rather than a real motorcycle. 
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Smiling End on June 05, 2008, 08:33:43 AM
I saw a crazy Vmax about 10 years ago at a show that had a giant supercharger mounted to the side of it.  It looked really sick.  Since then I've always wanted to ride one.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: silentbob on June 05, 2008, 09:27:18 AM
Quote from: Travman on June 05, 2008, 05:00:06 AM
I just read this new VMax article and the thought that struck me is this bike is at least 10 years overdue.  It has been so long now that nobody is going to care or buy one especially at $18K. 

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=6556&Page=1

The bike looks heavy.  It looks like there is more rake which won't help handling.  The headlight is the same stupid looking headlight started by the V-Rod.  I never really liked the fake side scoops and now they look twice as big.  The exhaust looks horrible.  It is great that mufflers are made with titanium, but now you will be throwing away expensive mufflers when you replace them with aftermarket mufflers.  The rear fender looks exactly the same as 1985.  It looks like a caricature of a motorcycle rather than a real motorcycle. 

My thoughts exactly.  There have been some really nice custom V-Max's out there they could have used for ideas.  I have seen people convert them to inverted front forks and chain drive fairly easily.  Those two changes alone on the old style V-Max would be a huge improvement over this thing.  If they really wanted to do something cool they should have tried this.

(http://www.rapidbikes.com.au/img/modified/aug/modified-vmax.jpg)
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Sause on June 05, 2008, 11:49:17 AM
my fathers v-max

(http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/publish/accumepartner/DML/Happy%20Garage.jpg)

he has been waiting for this bike for a while!!!
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Smitty on June 05, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
I have owned them in the past also the baby V-Max  FZX 700. My brother has a 2005 Max And my Fazer. This new one should address all of the shortcomings of the old one. The old one did handle like a truck but it was ok for street riding. It does look interesting. The videos on the microsite http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/msite/micro_v1.aspx   do explain all of the improvements.


Tim
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: 2-Wheelin Hooligan on June 05, 2008, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: NeufUnSix on June 04, 2008, 03:59:10 PM
1700ccs. Sweet zombie Jesus.

My thoughts exactly.  I always thought the new VMAX looked bad ass, but 197hp??? That just turns me on.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: CountGreffi on June 05, 2008, 12:58:54 PM
That bike is Bad-the-F-ass. It just screams "don't even try buddy".


cg
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: PizzaMonster on June 05, 2008, 01:40:18 PM
It looks bigger and clumsier than the old V-Max.  Looks like a  big engine on a roller skate maybe? [roll]

What's with the Japanese?  Once upon a time they built some decent power cruisers.  They cancelled the Valkeryie and the Magna which could hold their own in a turn.  Now they build silly looking Runes, and now this moto-version of a Sumo wrestler. 

I no capiche!!    ;D

I guess that's why I bought a Monster isn't it??   [moto]
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: bluemoco on June 06, 2008, 07:47:05 AM
Quote from: Travman on June 05, 2008, 05:00:06 AM
I just read this new VMax article and the thought that struck me is this bike is at least 10 years overdue.  It has been so long now that nobody is going to care or buy one especially at $18K. 

The guys over at Motorcycle Daily (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/04june08_star2009vmax_p1.htm) have a different opinion:

"If the redesign of the VMAX isn't the most highly anticipated new product in the motorcycle industry over the past five years, I am not sure what is."

Anyway, I think a VMAX would be a hoot to ride. Sadly, it looks like I'll have to wait 'til they hit showrooms in November.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: Travman on June 06, 2008, 08:58:39 AM
Quote from: bluemoco v2.0 on June 06, 2008, 07:47:05 AM
The guys over at Motorcycle Daily (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/04june08_star2009vmax_p1.htm) have a different opinion:

"If the redesign of the VMAX isn't the most highly anticipated new product in the motorcycle industry over the past five years, I am not sure what is."

Anyway, I think a VMAX would be a hoot to ride. Sadly, it looks like I'll have to wait 'til they hit showrooms in November.

You're right the VMAX will be a hoot to ride (especially on highway on-ramps where its acceleration will feel awesome.)  I guess I can't really say they won't sell.  I'm just skeptical.  I wan't a new VMax over ten years ago and it never came out so I lost interest.  Maybe others still care.
Title: Re: 2009 Yamaha VMAX
Post by: silentbob on June 06, 2008, 09:23:06 AM
They completely dropped the ball.  Just like the fabled MT-01.