Ducati Monster Forum

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its on MCN too

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/june/jun2910-new-ducati-mega-monster-spotted/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/june/jun2910-new-ducati-mega-monster-spotted/)

it looks great

More pictures required!

More Pics at
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ducati-mega-monster-spy-shots/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ducati-mega-monster-spy-shots/)

 [puke]

so the rumors were true of the cruiser/v-max

too bad. they should have used the MTS as a basis for a new ST and stop wasting the research on a niche market like that

It's like when your oh-so-hot prom date shows up at the 10 year reunion and she's a bunch thicker but with the same basic shape.  Not blubbery, just much thicker.  You can still tell that she was hot, but notw it's underneath a layer of fat and over-stretched skin.  

<Maybe after I drink some of this renunion punch, I'll wanna climb on her again.  [evil]>

Wait... it looks just like EVERY other bike designed by that guy...

bits thrown together with no continuity...

tragic

looks like Shervin RRR got his hands on a street fighter.

COME ON BABY part 2

It brings memories of the Demon..

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Although some (most?) Ducatista will probably hate this type of bike -- it is a very viable platform for Ducati to expand the marketplace and showroom traffic.  Essentially a large horsepower / street power cruiser with very comfortable ergonomics.  I know a LOT of Ducatista over the years who migrated to a bigger/larger (different manufacturer) bike due to the ergonomic factor alone.  Not all of us are small/slender stature Europeans who find the new Monster ergonomics (or even StreetFighter) comfortable to ride.

I think the Hypermotard was a great idea (and comfortable to ride for many) -- and sales have been fairly good.  The SportClassic had initial sales but didn't fill the niche market as well as hoped long-term.  I'm sure a LOT of us would love to see a new SuperSport rendition -- but it isn't a big seller for Ducati given Monster and baby Superbike sales competing for the same dollars.

Remember Porsche did this a few years ago with the 4x4 SUV's and even the 4-door things now. They sold a lot of SUV's that make a lot of money which got helped pay for racing and other more niche specific developments. 

I'd love to see Ducati build a new platform like this that doesn't affect existing model sales.  It essentially brings new clientele who traditionally might not have bought a Ducati.  And it will bring back some folks who left Ducati's due to comfort factors.  And it will provide funds to build better manufactured platforms later.   

Hot Fuzz - make the beast with two backs Ugly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEJ2RM3cXv0#normal)

I think this would be just the ticket for what I've been looking for. I recently added 800+ miles on the odom. in 2 days after joining a group of buddies. They were on Harleys and I was on my S4RS. Well, I was convinced it was time to add a cruiser of sorts to the stable but I'm just not cool enough to ride a Harley 
 :P so after seeing this new Ducati creation I am very intrigued.

the more bikes I see ducati putting out the more Im convinced the bmw s1000rr is going to be my new bike.

I don't see this thing lasting long. Why do the baby boomers encourage this kind of crap. It's always something bigger and more powerful, what would be awesome....a small lightweight relatively cheap 250 or 500. we dont get the truly awesome stuff in the us because bigger is better.

This feels like a huge breach of brand loyalty and trust

Would that engine fit in a S*R frame, I wonder....

 [moto]

I'm not convinced it's real, but I'm pretty sure Ducati would sell many bikes like that. Bragging rights and comfort, doesn't that sound like a winner? Sure, it's a sell out of the brand - pleasing riders who don't actually ride hard or have the skills. Sadly, such a bike will hurt some riders - too fast on the straights and not prepared to handle the next turn :-\

any pics of the front?

The shite part is that they WONT sell that many bikes...

The harley guy wont ride it, ever, it isnt a harley.

Ducati has a reputation for being finicky and expensive to maintain, so there isn't a crossover from the BMW type guy.

It wont bring in the touring guy, because cruisers are uncomfortable, and suck azz for long distance riding

There is a small crossover market, but it is very, very small.. Like a couple hundred units a year.

If it makes ANY kind of real power, the typical cruiser rider wont ride it, it will scare them. Cruisers simply don’t have power, chassis, suspension or brakes as requirements. Never have. The cruiser market is dying. The bar hopper market is dying. The motorcycle buyer is becoming MORE sophisticated, not less.

I hope they can find their way, I really do. Its really NOT a changing market, its a market that has shrunk quite a bit. You never grow in market share by ignoring your loyal base customers. Yes, there are some cool bikes in the stable right now, but how many 20k plus chopper/bobber builder designed "power cruisers" can they sell? Yamaha cant sell the Vmax, and the new one is AMAZING to ride.

My first 916 was $14k in 1994, when I could get a GSXR750 for about $8k, but it crushed it on the track, and was truly unique. Now a CBR1000 is 10k, and spanks a 1198S, BAD, and here in so cal, you see as many duc's as you do honda's. The price of exclusivity is gone, and given the huge increase in production figures, you would think that the economy of scale would enable Ducati to build a really nice bike for say $16k?

Ducati is a sportbike builder. They build wicked sportbikes, and sporting bikes. The M900, in 1993, was a Superbike chassis with a sporting bike motor, and a bunch of attitude stuffed inside the frame. Wicked. Now if you want attitude, you get the $20k streetfighter, and have to fix some pretty big issues to make it ride-able.

BMW hit the mark. Topped the class, sold out nation wide and how? By maintaining the existing bike line, and attracting new customers. Not by trying to redefine a dying class, but by building the best in class, out of the box. Oh btw, its price competitive. Lesson to be learned Ducati

A 1198 overhere (the Netherlands) is about 25000$
Think it's still a bit exclusive
BMW should build 2 cylinder boxers not jap knockoffs

Well, just have a look what is coming to the market.
Automatic clutch VFRs, BMW bobber chopper low rider, classic stuff like Triumphs Bonnie and now Horex gets resurrected with a six cylinder engine looking like a monster like roadster.
Ducati just won a dirt track race...Ducati just won that uphill trial thing.
BMW races in the top five with a brand new sports bike, better than all the Honyasukis .

People are getting old too.
Folks riding a monster on track 5 years ago have back problems from to much work, but they have money.
The wanna ride more slow, but in style.
That Deamon might be just right
They even wanna go touring and hate the BWM GS (for a reason ;)
The new Multi is perfect for them.
Stay true to your brand , age in style  [wine]

ask yourself, How many VMax orders are out there?  The only reason I would ever consider that bike is for the drag strip.  I own an S4R and a Harley for different reasons.  There is no middle ground for a so-called "cruiser" like this other than to explore future designs.  There is no market, especially now.  What Ducati should do is clean up their image of being overly expensive to maintain and support the dealer network with titanium balls (FYI...I don't work for a dealer but have heard the stories of late).  All this money could be spent on cleaning up the numerous models Ducati now seems to have or lower the prices a bit.  I mean, I love that new Multi but damn that's expensive for someone NOT looking to go down to one bike - for me anyway. Harleys are expensive to maintain as well, I know, but the reason I bought the Electra Glide is so I can take off to TimBucToo whenever I wish and load the pregnant dog up with comfort to boot.  If Ducati was serious about cruisers they'd invest in Goldwing type applications where you find performance and comfort at a reasonable price.  Just my two cents. 

ha ha what!?
 [puke] [puke] [puke]

For people who like that sort of thing, that bike has a lot of the sort of thing they like.

Already tried...

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Really???

I'm a Harley guy who rides a Duc  [moto] and as for some cruisers not having the chassis......they do (AKA Goldwing).  Don't forget that "cruiser" guys don't give a rats ass about the same things Ducati owners do, especially Ohlins and such.  The only complaint I have about my 09 Electra is the power which I will fix once the warranty runs out but the purpose of the bike is to be a lumbering giant with creature comforts, not so for my S4R.

And you're right, BMW hit the nail on the head on everything except for that body work IMO.  The thing I hate the most about Ducati is their Termi relationship.  For the money spent you get very little and poor workmanship finish.  BUT I do love Ducati overall and will always own one no matter how much trouble they become.

Now lets hope Ducati listens to their customers or another TPG takeover is imminent.

Triple J,
 I totally agree...[puke]

Stay with Monsters, SF, HM and what ever makes them happy, butnotanohterfatasscruiser

yea, imma have to go with no on that one too

Meh... Ducati already makes plenty of bikes I would never buy, this is just another one.  No big tragedy or trecherous sell out of the brand.  They already have me on the Monster hook, this then (if its for real) is to catch other fish.

Question: Is there any place to find out how many units of particular models manufacturers sell?

Comment: Everyone has preferences. For me, it comes down to what bike I would own if I could only have one. For the record, I do own 3- 2 Monsters and a Superglide, but they are in 3 different parts of the country, so I don't have a choice of which bike to ride on a particular day.

At my age (65), the Monster fits the bill. It is sporting enough for an older rider with fading reflexes. It's comfortable enough- I just rode my '01 M900 from NY to Georgia and back and had no physical issues. I can do a lot of the maintenance myself, so it's not that expensive to keep in good running order.

The Harley is a lot less comfortable and less flexible in use. Great torque and just fine going in a straight line.

As for Ducati, the management of all manufacturers constantly seek ways to make more money. New market segments, new models for the established segments, etc. Not all the moves work out.