I did 120mph on I-80 and I got arrested for reckless driving. (no excuses)
I stayed in jail for couple hours.
I got released by paying $555 (bail)
they gave me the letter saying, I am notfied to appear in front of judge xxxx
on the citation, he just put aggressive/reckless driving. speeding and mph over box is left blank
(officer at the jail told me I was fortunate not to have reckless driving and speeding)
It's considered class b misdemanor (dui is too)
the state fine schedule says $583 for reckless driving and I get 80 points (I need 200 points to get my liscense suspended. I have zero)
I was searching online to get more info but I am very worried now after reading stories that I could end up in jail for couple days, my liscense would be suspended etc.
I made a major mistake and I am just trying to fix my life at this point.
any advices?
Ouch. I'm guessing since you HAD zero points, that your record is clean?
if your record is clean, they might let you slide. dont blink twice, hire a lawyer, no questions asked. it will save headache and trouble in the months ahead.
Don't lie or attempt to make any excuses...
because whatever you can come up with be assured of this:
the judge has already heard it several times coming out of someone else's mouth long before you
and you will be insulting his/her intelligence
I almost got cuffed in Harrisonburg Va. doing 40 over the limit on I-81 South with a mandatory appearance ...(helicopter timed me on the stripes and sent a pursuit car after me)
Following week or so I called the courts and spoke with the court clerk, asked her how much trouble I was in with the judge and if I needed to get a lawyer from the area (like maybe the judge's brother or something) and asked if there was any way I could plea-out and avoid having to return 6 hours and 3 states away from H-burg
I couldn't find a reasonable map route around the State of Va. that would allow me to blow it off as I went south a lot
She was a real sweetheart, I made her laugh...she told me that I could draft a letter to the judge pleading my guilt taking ownership of my stupidity (with NO B.S. excuses that might piss him off) and she would get it to him...I was convicted in absentia and got slammed for around 400 dollars...
These days it is all about the money... be prepared to pay...
as for jail...unless you really piss-off the magistrate or the cop offers that you really gave him a hard time or a high speed chase..
well I doubt you will see any cell time...that costs the state/town/county money to house you and they would rather collect money than spend it
but find out if he/she is a hanging judge
oh and if you can't weasel out of the appearance do not show up in your racing leathers with a helmet under your arm
Me, off to jail on Thanksgiving day, 2000. 137 and evasion. Felony. Bailed out that evening, if I recall, it was either $500 or $1000 to bail, it's been a while. Got my Honda CBR1000F out of impound the next morning, $168. They were supposed to keep it for a month, but nobody told the tow company guy that. So I rode it right by the police station. Got a pretty good double take out of that. Right off the bat, $5000 for a lawyer. Since I had quite a few tickets over the years, they (the District Attorney) wanted 16 months in prison. For speeding and evasion. Unf-nbelievable. The lawyer I hired was golfing buddies with the judge. I got 180 days, Monterey County Jail. $1600 fine. I did an actual 77 days, the rest on home detention/work furlough, at the price of $27.00 per day, so 103 days, x $27.00 for about another $2900 or so. I now know more about the Norteno and Sureno gangs in Monterey County Jail than I ever wanted to know. They dropped the speeding part, so I plead to felony evasion of arrest. They didn't even suspend my license and my insurance was unaffected by it. My boss thought it was funny as hell, but then again, he let me do the work furlough thing.
I admitted guilt, and didn't try to BS the judge or the DA, but the DA was pissed at me for some reason or another.
Now I can't own guns, or vote, but they let me vote by mail anyway.
I think you are getting off fairly lightly.
wow am i glad i live in europe. +100 is a normal ride for me.
When i got back from the europe the first time a few years ago, ok a lot, i did the whole, 'but it's perfectly safe' to the officer when i was clocked at 84 in a 55. he politely said he understood, he had lived in Europe as a Marine, but the law is different here. at that difference i was able to take the class clear my violation and basically have no issue. he had said if i was doing 86 he would have had to cuff me and take me in for reckless... before i crested the hill where he was waiting in the valley, i was doing 125... phew...
i learned that day, those speeds in the states aren't worth it unless you are in the middle of NOWHERE and not on a highway. i have done 100 on a farm road in the middle of the night... scary but no worries for tickets.
Quote from: Raux on July 04, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
wow am i glad i live in europe. +100 is a normal ride for me.
When i got back from the europe the first time a few years ago, ok a lot, i did the whole, 'but it's perfectly safe' to the officer when i was clocked at 84 in a 55. he politely said he understood, he had lived in Europe as a Marine, but the law is different here. at that difference i was able to take the class clear my violation and basically have no issue. he had said if i was doing 86 he would have had to cuff me and take me in for reckless... before i crested the hill where he was waiting in the valley, i was doing 125... phew...
i learned that day, those speeds in the states aren't worth it unless you are in the middle of NOWHERE and not on a highway. i have done 100 on a farm road in the middle of the night... scary but no worries for tickets.
what are the laws in europe?
a lot of Autobahn roads are open ie no limits. but most are 130kph or about 85mph. there is a point system just like the states. they have standard stuff like. >40kph can get you a suspension of 1 mo for first violation, etc. but they dont throw you in jail unless you run. a lot more cameras for speeding, very rarely do they have chase cars, it's just too dangerous when there are cars here than can run 170mph+. the states are weird when i hear about on the news "the chase reached 90mph on the interstate" I'm like my cruise control was set at 110mph recently for a trip... no worries.
anyway back to the point... the states view speeding as some sort of criminal activity, here it's just a driving violation.
Forgive me for the blasphemy but have any of you ever given any thought to NOT doing double the speed limit and if doing so is absolutely necessary NOT running from the cops?
I think that might help alleviate the cost of the the ticket, court appearances, and possible jail time. Just a thought.
that's one of the other things i was going to say.
in reality it's best to go those speeds on a track. much better surfaces and no worries for little old lady pullin in your lane.
Quote from: Raux on July 04, 2010, 10:55:44 PM
the states view speeding as some sort of criminal activity.
Thats because people die when hit by a car/motorcycle traveling at that speed. I'm sure the consequences for manslaughter are the same in Europe.
Traveling at those speeds on regular roads is unsafe and quite stupid for all parties involved. Keep it on the track.
Quote from: duc750 on July 04, 2010, 11:11:57 PM
Thats because people die when hit by a car/motorcycle traveling at that speed. I'm sure the consequences for manslaughter are the same in Europe.
Traveling at those speeds on regular roads is unsafe and quite stupid for all parties involved. Keep it on the track.
actually most european cars passenger cells can survive a 100+ mph crash. in the states most cars are not designed for that.
yes, but regular, ie no autobahn roads... not such a great idea. there are a lot of tracks, even drag strips where you can 'test' your bikes. i know it's harder in the states, but maybe reach out to the local clubs or even local tracks about getting something set up.
in oklahoma they have several supermoto tracks... not goign to hit 100mph, but you will test your skills and get the sense of speed.
Quote from: duc750 on July 04, 2010, 11:11:57 PM
Thats because people die when hit by a car/motorcycle traveling at that speed. I'm sure the consequences for manslaughter are the same in Europe.
but i have to say, unless you actually do hit somone and kill them... it shouldn't be criminal just a traffic violation... let's not get into the whole 'intentions' things... we could say the same thing about guns, knives, etc.
Quote from: Raux on July 04, 2010, 11:26:14 PM
but i have to say, unless you actually do hit somone and kill them... it shouldn't be criminal just a traffic violation... let's not get into the whole 'intentions' things... we could say the same thing about guns, knives, etc.
I think that's a big risk...UNLESS you actually hit someone?! I think having a knife in your pocket or a gun on your hip is quite a bit safer. YOU decide to use said knife or gun, SOMEONE else decides whether or not they're gonna pull out in front of you while you're traveling twice the posted speed limit.
Either way, like we both said it's best to keep that on the track where there are less affecting factors.
I don't think I pissed off the officer. I think he was mad because he had to risk his life to catch up with me (like I said, I didn't know till he was right behind me)
I cooperated by saying yes sir all the time and I apologize for my misbehavior.
bail was $555, so the officer said the fine would be around that.
I am not sure if it is worth to hire a lawyer even for $500?
should I ask first if I can do plean bargain with them on my own or can get public defender, then hire a lawyer?
i think there are a few lawyers on the board.
maybe they will chime in shortly.
[popcorn]
Try living in Australia, speeding over here is almost a shooting offence!
The fastest roads we have is 110 Kph. even in the middle of nowhere on perfectly
flat straight pieces of road, you have to stick to 110Kph. And yes, even in the middle
of no where, hours from any town or civilization, there are cops or speed cameras.
In some states the speeding tolerance is less then 5Kph over the limit and
your done.
Speed cameras and Speeding Camera vans are hiding everywhere.
Police with speed guns dress in Camo gear and hide in the forest beside
major roads to get you.
If the Police say they will have Road Safety Blitz, it just means more
Speed Cameras and radars on the road for a week or 2.
A lot of state governments in Australia are short on cash, so they roll out
more Speed Cameras and lower the speed limits all under the banner of road safety.
But is all about making more money.
Australia is the ultimate nanny nation, they keep saying it will lower the road toll.
but the road toll keeps going up and up, and people keep swallowing the lies.
I hate to say this, but sometimes I really hate this country! it is run by retards! [bang]
In the Netherlands you are in sh*t when you do more than 50 km/h over the speed limit
Then they will take your licence
Only when someone is killed in a accident you can go to jail
But you must know that the number of people killed by road accidents is about the lowest in the world over here
No wonder Gardner, Bayliss and Stoner took up racing? Shit. We have a lot of open space here (west Texas...) and the cops usually have a sense of humor about it. Sort of... Hell, you are in the middle of nowhere, hours from the next town. What do they care? You crash into something the buzzards will finish you off before the cops find you. [bang]
Good luck to the OP on the citiation. I worked in the county courthouse (as did my wife) forever but it was State District criminal court (felonies) so not a lot of traffic ticket experience. Unless it led to a shoot out at the end. ;D
http://www.speedingticketsbeater.com/ (http://www.speedingticketsbeater.com/)
Here is an interesting site for what it is worth.
http://www.ticketassassin.com/ (http://www.ticketassassin.com/)
This worked for a friend of mine
Attorney, no doubt
Its not about the money, its about knowing how to play in the crooked system.
with an attorney, you do no jail time, get it reduced or dropped and never gets put on your record, so you arent assigned risk or uninsurable.
Next time, if you commit to speed, you better commit to run, or dont do it on the freeway, where the police live. Remember Highway patrol or ONLY in existance to collect revenue. They have NOTHING to do with fighting real crime. So if you play in the playground with a guy who makes his living as a sneak attack revenue generator, you are going to lose. Every time.
I'm not going to relate my experiences (I was very lucky with a nice judge) -- but get an attorney and don't contest the ticket. Plea bargain out and pay the bill. It will be cheaper in the long run. Then get a racebike and play on the racetrack.
Why? If you get a judge and an officer / prosecutor who makes a ruckus in court and you might be spending time in county/state. Try explaining to your college, family/kids, boss (how much sick/vacation time do you have?), insurance company, girlfriend/wife and more.
A friend in California two years ago decided to fight a high speed (162) / reckless ticket / evasion (Porsche street racing) and fight the legal system. Local newspaper then had a few headlines (tipped via prosecutor running for local election) and thus he was made an example of for public purposes. 90 days -- 47 served. Cost him his job and then his house a year later because he couldn't find a comparable job due to the lousy job market. It took him almost 9 months with assistance at more legal cost to get unemployment. As his first attorney said -- write the checks and do the voluntary service time and plead mercy on the court and consider it a very expensive lesson learned. Today he still doesn't have a drivers license and gets around Orange County via public transport / taxi and electric bicycle -- it's a reminder everyday to him.
Not a big deal. Pay the fine and move on [thumbsup]
"You can't out run Motorola" ;D
Gotta agree with most of what is being said here. Without going into the gory details. Reckless driving charge for 98/65. Anything 30 mph over limit is automatic.
This was in VA. of which I was not a resident. Retained a local lawyer, he was in touch with the Judge who would not wave my appearance. Traveled back to VA. met with the attorney 10 minutes before I had to appear before the judge. He asked me if I was polite to the officer who stopped me. He said that would be a big factor in the judge's decision.
End of it all. Travel back/forth to VA. with hotel @ $250.00 . 10 days in jail / suspended . 30 days suspended license in VA.( I could not drive myself away from court). $550.00 fine.
Lawyer and court fees @ $600.00.
Lesson learned.
so they just took you to the jail for 10 days right after court appearance????
oh my god, I don't know what to do because I have a business to run.....
Quote from: duclvr on July 05, 2010, 08:16:13 AM
Gotta agree with most of what is being said here. Without going into the gory details. Reckless driving charge for 98/65. Anything 30 mph over limit is automatic.
This was in VA. of which I was not a resident. Retained a local lawyer, he was in touch with the Judge who would not wave my appearance. Traveled back to VA. met with the attorney 10 minutes before I had to appear before the judge. He asked me if I was polite to the officer who stopped me. He said that would be a big factor in the judge's decision.
End of it all. Travel back/forth to VA. with hotel @ $250.00 . 10 days in jail / suspended . 30 days suspended license in VA.( I could not drive myself away from court). $550.00 fine.
Lawyer and court fees @ $600.00.
Lesson learned.
I have nothing more to add to what has already been said. It's unfortunate that it require this kind of trouble for some to learn a lesson. The legal system might be flawed and you are forced to pay your way out of it. But you sorta asked for it going at least 45mph over the limit.
My buddy went thru a DUI case a little while ago and paid thru the nose for it. Now it's finding a designated driver or taking a taxi. It's better this way.
the trouble with second or more offenses, whether speeding or DWI is that they:
A) Figured you learned nothing the first time.
and
B) You have been at it all along since the first time and they now finally just caught you again
so
C) They will slam you for all the times they did not catch you
While it can't and will not ever be said...that IS the "school of thought" that is looking at you from the Bench when it is repeat offenses
Quote from: duclvr on July 05, 2010, 08:16:13 AM
10 days in jail / suspended .
Lesson learned.
Quote from: masterh on July 05, 2010, 09:50:25 AM
so they just took you to the jail for 10 days right after court appearance????
oh my god, I don't know what to do because I have a business to run.....
I'm lucky to live in an area that doesn't pay much attention to casual speeding (10-15 over, keeping pace with traffic, etc. ) unless you're sporting an out of state license plate. That, and knowing where the good unpatrolled roads are have kept my license clean for the past few years.
Bottom line; Get a lawyer, pay a fine, move on.
Quote from: Bun-bun on July 05, 2010, 10:56:32 AM
I'm lucky to live in an area that doesn't pay much attention to casual speeding (10-15 over, keeping pace with traffic, etc. )
They don't really care too much about that down here in SoCal either, sometimes. I've had a cop pull up behind me while going 10-15 over and then go around me cause I was going too slow. I'm sure there is a little discretion when it comes to keeping the pace, unfortunately not too many people are keeping pace with you at 120+.
Quote from: masterh on July 05, 2010, 09:50:25 AM
so they just took you to the jail for 10 days right after court appearance????
oh my god, I don't know what to do because I have a business to run.....
No the 10 days was suspended.
Quote from: RetroSBK on July 05, 2010, 07:07:29 AM
Attorney, no doubt
Its not about the money, its about knowing how to play in the crooked system.
with an attorney, you do no jail time, get it reduced or dropped and never gets put on your record, so you arent assigned risk or uninsurable.
Next time, if you commit to speed, you better commit to run, or dont do it on the freeway, where the police live. Remember Highway patrol or ONLY in existance to collect revenue. They have NOTHING to do with fighting real crime. So if you play in the playground with a guy who makes his living as a sneak attack revenue generator, you are going to lose. Every time.
PM'd
and
are you make the beast with two backsing kidding me? I thought all the ignorant people stayed on the DML.
Quote from: hbliam on July 05, 2010, 01:50:31 PM
PM'd
and
are you make the beast with two backsing kidding me? I thought all the ignorant people stayed on the DML.
Don't force me...
You do not have the privilege of calling another member ignorant.
Quote from: ducpainter on July 05, 2010, 02:00:29 PM
Don't force me...
You do not have the privilege of calling another member ignorant.
Five dead CHP officers in the last 7 weeks and you choose to admonish me over the use of the word ignorant rather then enforce the anti cop talk rule.
10-4.
Quote from: hbliam on July 05, 2010, 03:54:33 PM
Five dead CHP officers in the last 7 weeks and you choose to admonish me over the use of the word ignorant rather then enforce the anti cop talk rule.
10-4.
because you choose to hide behind the no cop talk rule and constantly come in and take cheap shots.
I don't like it when anyone dies, but that doesn't give you the right to break the rules, and what does the death of those officers have to do with this thread? Also, why would I knowthat. It's a world away from me, and there is nothing in this thread that addresses that.
Furthermore someone else breaking the rules doesn't/shouldn't change your posting.
If you want to argue this further...
save your breath.
[popcorn]
Quote from: duc750 on July 04, 2010, 11:04:59 PM
Forgive me for the blasphemy but have any of you ever given any thought to NOT doing double the speed limit and if doing so is absolutely necessary NOT running from the cops?
+1 on this.
Although I also agree with
Raux, in that speed isnt
necessarily dangerous. I too have lived in Germany, driven/ridden at high speed (compared to the US or Aus) and lived to tell the tale. Its
inappropriate speed which is dangerous. In Germany everybody knows to both expect others to be travelling quickly and also how to behave at "high" speed themselves. Whereas
your local Granny isnt lookin for you comin form "nowhere" @ 120mph. So, in some driving cultures what you did is quite acceptable, but where you did it IMHO is somewhat foolish. Time now to take the consequences. Hopefully its not too harsh. Good luck.
Quote from: CairnsDuc on July 05, 2010, 12:47:29 AMTry living in Australia, speeding over here is almost a shooting offence!......Speed cameras and Speeding Camera vans are hiding everywhere.
Aw c'mon CD, thats overstating it a little. I agree with the thrust of your comments, but it still is possible to ride without being ticketed even here in Mexitoria, just takes care and attention. Something we all ought exercise every time we ride ;).
Quote from: ducpainter on July 05, 2010, 04:09:36 PM
because you choose to hide behind the no cop talk rule and constantly come in and take cheap shots.
I've never hidden behind any rule. I watch and wait to see if you will enforce the rule. You rarely do. Then I post, as it seems only fair since the rule obviously isn't a rule that is enforced. Then I get smacked and you weakly mention the no cop talk rule as an aside.
[Furthermore someone else breaking the rules doesn't/shouldn't change your posting.
If you want to argue this further...
save your breath.
[/quote]
See above.
No desire to argue. There has always been an obvious bias toward me from you and your counterpart. I get that.
And no, you probably didn't know about the loss of our CHP Officers. Retro surely did. I've been wearing a black band over my badge for the past month, sorry if I get a bit upset when someone insults their contribution.
Quote from: hbliam on July 05, 2010, 04:46:58 PM
I've never hidden behind any rule. I watch and wait to see if you will enforce the rule. You rarely do. Then I post, as it seems only fair since the rule obviously isn't a rule that is enforced. Then I get smacked and you weakly mention the no cop talk rule as an aside.
<snip>
[cough]
bullshit
[cough]
keep on believing ...
maybe someday it will be true.
Any further comment should be via pm.
It will be the first pm I ignore. [thumbsup]
Funny story bout speeding...
was talking to a guy who stopped to watch me work on my bike. He told me that when he was my age he got pulled over on the pacific coast highway doing somewhere around 125. the officer asked him why he was speeding to which he replied he was "just going with the flow." the officer was bewildered and asked with the flow of what? there aren't any other vehicles out here.
the gentleman answered by pointing at a passing airplane and said he was trying to keep up with them. the officer, although amused by the answer, issued a ticket which was followed by some court stuff.
gave me a good chuckle while lowering the my headlight bracket.
good luck with the legal process and 2nd everyone on getting lawyered up. at worst it hurts your wallet, at best it saves you from some cell time.
Quote from: ducpainter on July 05, 2010, 04:52:50 PM
It will be the first pm I ignore. [thumbsup]
You... Oh nevermind...
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Quote from: ducpainter on July 05, 2010, 04:52:50 PM
[cough]
bullshit
[cough]
keep on believing ...
maybe someday it will be true.
Any further comment should be via pm.
It will be the first pm I ignore. [thumbsup]
Thanks for confiming my comments.
should this be moved to racing/trackdays?
[popcorn]
probably get locked before it gets moved
I don't know about the thread but the riding should be saved for track days.
A track day is $100- $150 and does not put other peoples live at risk.
Well, it does, but at least those people know it.
Quote from: hbliam on July 05, 2010, 05:18:12 PM
Thanks for confiming my comments.
All I confirmed was the fact you don't take instruction well.
I asked for any further comment from you to be via pm.
According to the board guidelines...
6.1 Members shall conduct themselves respectfully when in dispute with a moderator. If a moderator instructs a member to take the discussion to PMs, please do so. The moderators will determine whether to lock the thread.
Also worth noting in the guidelines...
6.2 Members that smear or otherwise attack the site or moderators are subject to suspension and or removal.
I'm going to assume your comments about my lack of action on your complaints and your most recent comment to be a smear on my integrity.
Additionally...
Suspensions & Banning
First violation: 24-72 hour suspension. Initiated by any moderator.
Second violation: One week suspension. Initiated by any moderator.
Third violation: One month suspension to permanent ban. Admin decision.
Repeated violations or serious one-time violations or a pattern of conduct that requires disproportionate amount of moderator time will result in the member's access to the board being terminated. Basically, don't make youself a pain in the butt to deal with.
Today, I'm going to be the cop and you are the perp...welcome to our world.
Consider yourself suspended....
and have a nice day. [thumbsup]
Ouch.
That being said, seriously - there are a few small common ground rules I've ridden by and have served me well ...
1.) Don't speed on the highway. Ever. Even if you've got a V1 / H.A.R.D. system, they've got laser - and airplanes - and unmarked vehicles. Plus, why?
2.) 30-35 zone? Or in a town? SLOW. DOWN.
3.) Wheelies, stunting, etc? Nope.
4.) Street racing? LOL get outta here.
5.) Residential neighborhoods? Calm down Rossi, there are no trophies for winning the Cul-de-Sac TT.
Out in the middle of the canyons / mountains / whatever? Sure, wick it up a bit. It's all about situational awareness - if you're 15 miles from the nearest town, in the middle of the mountains - or on a parkway where you can see for miles in front of you, that's the place to have a bit of fun. People rarely bring context into their decision to have a spot of fun on their bikes.
Despite having a V1 / H.A.R.D system, I still received a few " excellence in velocity " awards the past couple of years, and as a result my street pace has slowed down significantly because it simply isn't worth it - especially when there are TRACK DAYS to go to. And when I do dial it up, it's far far away from anyone who would care [thumbsup]
Cheers,
Adam
Quote from: DrDesmosedici on July 05, 2010, 05:53:17 PM
Ouch.
That being said, seriously - there are a few small common ground rules I've ridden by and have served me well ...
1.) Don't speed on the highway. Ever. Even if you've got a V1 / H.A.R.D. system, they've got laser - and airplanes - and unmarked vehicles. Plus, why?
2.) 30-35 zone? Or in a town? SLOW. DOWN.
3.) Wheelies, stunting, etc? Nope.
4.) Street racing? LOL get outta here.
5.) Residential neighborhoods? Calm down Rossi, there are no trophies for winning the Cul-de-Sac TT.
Out in the middle of the canyons / mountains / whatever? Sure, wick it up a bit. It's all about situational awareness - if you're 15 miles from the nearest town, in the middle of the mountains - or on a parkway where you can see for miles in front of you, that's the place to have a bit of fun. People rarely bring context into their decision to have a spot of fun on their bikes.
Despite having a V1 / H.A.R.D system, I still received a few " excellence in velocity " awards the past couple of years, and as a result my street pace has slowed down significantly because it simply isn't worth it - especially when there are TRACK DAYS to go to. And when I do dial it up, it's far far away from anyone who would care [thumbsup]
Cheers,
Adam
^^^ That right there [clap].
I got caught in the mid 90's down in Laguna on the I-5 headed south to San Diego, doing 95 in a 55. First words out of the officer's mouth were "Do you realize I can take you to jail right now?" I think the fact I was in the Navy and headed back to my command, saved my arse from going to jail. I ended up just paying the fine and doing traffic school.
It sounds like the officer already did you a favor by not writing the speed down. But I suppose that's all gonna come out when you have to explain your self to the judge.
I would plead guilty pay your dues and learn your lesson.
You never specifiy where on the 80 you got. As long as you weren't in Slohio given your record I'd imgaine you'll should be ok.
Now if you were in Slohio I do recall and quote from "Cannonball Run" you'll probably get the death penalty.
Quote from: 13 on July 05, 2010, 05:33:28 PM
I don't know about the thread but the riding should be saved for track days.
A track day is $100- $150 and does not put other peoples live at risk.
Huh? Track days are $100-$150? Where do you find those prices? In New England you're lucky if you can find one for $250! [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
Quote from: Monstermash on July 05, 2010, 07:12:03 PM
Huh? Track days are $100-$150? Where do you find those prices? In New England you're lucky if you can find one for $250! [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
Slohio. There's still a couple privately owned tracks out here that aren't in great condition.
With the motel, gas, track fees, food, and leathers rental, I spent about $400 to go to Willow. About the same as a big speeding ticket.
Quote from: Monstermash on July 05, 2010, 07:12:03 PM
Huh? Track days are $100-$150? Where do you find those prices? In New England you're lucky if you can find one for $250! [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
My last track-day was in Brno, cost $90. but Midohio offer track days for around the $150 mark.
Quote from: DrDesmosedici on July 05, 2010, 05:53:17 PM
" excellence in velocity " awards
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Great name for a ticket, think I might steal it!
Quote from: Preisker on July 05, 2010, 07:16:52 PM
With the motel, gas, track fees, food, and leathers rental, I spent about $400 to go to Willow. About the same as a big speeding ticket.
Yeah, minus that whole spending time in jail thing...
Quote from: Preisker on July 05, 2010, 07:16:52 PM
With the motel, gas, track fees, food, and leathers rental, I spent about $400 to go to Willow. About the same as a big speeding ticket.
Quote from: Preisker on July 04, 2010, 10:14:20 PM
Me, off to jail on Thanksgiving day, 2000. 137 and evasion. Felony. Bailed out that evening, if I recall, it was either $500 or $1000 to bail, it's been a while. Got my Honda CBR1000F out of impound the next morning, $168. They were supposed to keep it for a month, but nobody told the tow company guy that. So I rode it right by the police station. Got a pretty good double take out of that. Right off the bat, $5000 for a lawyer. Since I had quite a few tickets over the years, they (the District Attorney) wanted 16 months in prison. For speeding and evasion. Unf-nbelievable. The lawyer I hired was golfing buddies with the judge. I got 180 days, Monterey County Jail. $1600 fine. I did an actual 77 days, the rest on home detention/work furlough, at the price of $27.00 per day, so 103 days, x $27.00 for about another $2900 or so.
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This is the exact reason we've tried to limit editorials about what police do and why. I don't care who is right or wrong but we've asked before to knock off the inflamatory shit. Then told people to knock off the inflamatory shit.
Since people on both sides can't appear to act like adults...well....
and Scott, I'm sorry you think we're so biased against you in this matter. We fend off dozens of complaints and requests about this issue all because the majority of members who ride have a very different opinion due to their own day to day observations and their own personal interactions with police, so we tend to feel pretty heavily that we're quite lopsided in our rules FAVORING the officers here.
There might be some changes, but if anything it'll be more relaxed on the issue.