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Title: Ducati Lineup Post by: Raux on July 21, 2010, 07:25:05 PM OK with a new model coming out, thought we could look at our desired Ducati lineup as compared to their current (or soon to be current) lineup.
Ducati's Monster 696 796 1100 1100S Sport Classic GT1000 Hypermotard 796 1100 evo 1100 evo SP Multistrada 1200 1200 S Touring 1200 S Sport Streetfighter Streetfighter Streetfighter S Vyper (suspected name) Vyper Vyper S Superbike 848 evo 1198 1198 S 1198 S Corse 1198 R Corse Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Raux on July 21, 2010, 07:32:19 PM Raux's
Mono 450 650 650 S Monster 796 904 1100 1100S SuperSport 796 904 1100 1100S Hypermotard 796 904 1100 1100 S Multistrada 848 1200 1200 S Touring 1200 S Sport SportTouring 848 1200 1200 S Streetfighter 848 1198 1198 S Vyper (suspected name) 1200 1200 S Superbike 848 848 S 1198 1198 S 1198 R HyperSport (V4!!!) 990 990 S Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: kopfjäger on July 21, 2010, 07:54:30 PM Looks good, other than your second column. :D
Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: DoubleEagle on July 21, 2010, 08:44:08 PM That's what dreams are for Jerry.
Dolph :) Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ChrisH on July 22, 2010, 12:16:13 AM Even though I just bought a 696 recently and love it, it doesn't make sense in the line anymore IMHO. Ducati should have the 796 as the low end across the line & go up from there.
Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: superjohn on July 22, 2010, 01:52:59 AM Even though I just bought a 696 recently and love it, it doesn't make sense in the line anymore IMHO. Ducati should have the 796 as the low end across the line & go up from there. I think some insurance company subscribe to that "Over 750cc = double your premium" policy, so it makes sense to have an option. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: lethe on July 22, 2010, 01:58:06 AM I think some insurance company subscribe to that "Over 750cc = double your premium" policy, so it makes sense to have an option. They should make a model that has all the chassis goodies and with just a 100cc engine that we can swap out after purchase. [evil]Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: redxblack on July 22, 2010, 03:25:06 AM I'd really like a GT 750 in the lineup.
Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Grappa on July 22, 2010, 08:10:58 AM I would like to see a "Monster Classic" with a FULL trellis frame and a METAL fuel tank. Dry clutch too. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Slide Panda on July 22, 2010, 08:19:06 AM They should make a model that has all the chassis goodies and with just a 100cc engine that we can swap out after purchase. [evil] Or sell it with whatever engine in a 'non-running condition' like they did with the Tomahawk. Yeah to get it to run it was something stupid like hooking the spark wires... but it met the loop hole. I think some insurance company subscribe to that "Over 750cc = double your premium" policy, so it makes sense to have an option. European countries and others in the world have very different laws regarding motos and licenses for them than the US. Here someone can go buy a CBGsxRR100000 without even a license - other areas you are very strictly limited in the power/displacement of the bikes you can buy, or that are even able to be sold. A buddy living in Sri Lanka had to get a grey market Norton as it was over the legal displacement limit. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: He Man on July 22, 2010, 08:35:20 AM they should have custom ducati that you can mix match online and order straight frm factory like the R6. if i had all the money in the world....
Ducati 848 EVO with Ohlins front and rear with linear rates for 150lb rider straight from the factory, traction control enabled ecu and multi map feature, DP levers and rearsets + termi pipes. i like dreaming sometimes! Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: duccarlos on July 22, 2010, 08:40:36 AM I mostly removed the models that are not needed.
Monster: 796 1100 1100 S SS: Same Monster HM: Same Monster Multistrada 1200 1200 S ST: Same as Multi Vyper: Same as Multi Streetfighter 848 1198 1198 S Superbike 848 848 S 1198 1198 S 1198 R Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 22, 2010, 08:45:22 AM Mono
500 and sub 325lbs wet. Monster 796 1100 S and R options available on special order only SuperSport 800class 1000class and i would change it to a 2v/water cooled model. Check out the St2 engine. Hypermotard 796 1100 Multistrada 500 mono 1200 Streetfighter meh Vyper (suspected name) meh Superbike 848 848 S 1198 1198 S 1198 R HyperSport (V4!!!) 800 (or whatever the current GP spec is) Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: DoubleEagle on July 22, 2010, 05:33:50 PM I'd like to see a return of the S4Rs w, a 1198 Superbike engine w, 150 RWHP.
Dolph :) Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 23, 2010, 02:46:48 AM I'd like to see a return of the S4Rs w, a 1198 Superbike engine w, 150 RWHP. Dolph :) or even better, a Monster with a D16 Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: poseur on July 23, 2010, 04:48:40 AM Even though I just bought a 696 recently and love it, it doesn't make sense in the line anymore IMHO. Ducati should have the 796 as the low end across the line & go up from there. I say they need a Monster 350 w/ABS priced under $6,000. It would be the bike EVERY new rider would buy. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 23, 2010, 05:31:52 AM I say they need a Monster 350 w/ABS priced under $6,000. It would be the bike EVERY new rider would buy. several years ago they published a corporate direction statement that they would have a single entry-level bike i think you have something with that idea, but 350 is FAR too small for a 2-cyl. and given that they currently sell the 400cc (in some markets) with just a sleeved/stroked-down engine, it's far too heavy imho. part of the problem of being a small company is that they need to keep their parts catalogue small and reuse as much as possible across product lines. a proper-sized engine with 350cc output would need to be much smaller and necessitate a whole new catalogue. now, if they are going to do that, the proper route (imho) is to create a lightweight single with sizes from 350 to ~650cc. ducati used to make scramblers and they could give KTM a run for their money by making a line of dirt-friendly bikes. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Travman on July 23, 2010, 05:50:56 AM I'd like to add an updated ST to the lineup. It could be based on the current Multistrada frame and engine or it could be ST3 based. It should be drop dead sexy with a lot of the 848/1198 looks. It should not look anything like the new Multi.
Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Travman on July 23, 2010, 05:51:19 AM Also, it is time for some updates to the Sport Classic range. At the very least they should use some lighter tubeless spoked rims that can accomodate 4-piston calibers. They should use the latest 796 and 1100 engines to expand the range. I'd like to see them revise the body work so it isn't so bulky looking. They need to fix the expanding tank issue once and for all. They need less rear wheel to rear fender clearance which looks wrong on a classic styled bike and is not necessary. Bring back some higher end SC's similar to the Paul Smarts and the 1000 which would have the higher end Ohlins suspension and better brakes.
Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 23, 2010, 05:59:44 AM Also, it is time for some updates to the Sport Classic range. At the very least they should use some lighter tubeless spoked rims that can accomodate 4-piston calibers. They should use the latest 796 and 1100 engines to expand the range. I'd like to see them revise the body work so it isn't so bulky looking. They need to fix the expanding tank issue once and for all. They need less rear wheel to rear fender clearance which looks wrong on a classic styled bike and is not necessary. Bring back some higher end SC's similar to the Paul Smarts and the 1000 which would have the higher end Ohlins suspension and better brakes. I agree, but not on the direction. My perception of the SC range is that it should have a rotating lineup of bikes that are completely different. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: swampduc on July 23, 2010, 06:11:57 AM I'd like to see a return of the S4Rs w, a 1198 Superbike engine w, 150 RWHP. That frame couldn't handle the DQ engine's output. How do you think it'd do with a testastretta evo motor? [laugh]Dolph :) Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: duccarlos on July 23, 2010, 06:41:23 AM I agree, but not on the direction. My perception of the SC range is that it should have a rotating lineup of bikes that are completely different. +1 They should review all the Ducati "classics' and basically redux a different 1 every 5 years. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 23, 2010, 06:45:49 AM I say they need a Monster 350 w/ABS priced under $6,000. It would be the bike EVERY new rider would buy. http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2010/kawasaki/ninja/250r/prices/54713/05/index.html (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2010/kawasaki/ninja/250r/prices/54713/05/index.html) and i doubt that is true anyhow -- the Ninja 250R is still priced under $4000 Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Travman on July 23, 2010, 07:16:43 AM I want a Ducati with an air-cooled engine in a superbike frame. I would prefer that it would be styled like Rad Ducati's bikes. Alternatively it could be just like the Streetfighter, but with the DS1100 engine. Some might think this concept would have too much overlap with the Monster, but Monsters do not turn or handle like Superbikes unless they have been modified.
(http://www.radicalducati.com/uploads/images/Rad/RAD02/cafe_racer/5.jpg) Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 23, 2010, 07:35:58 AM +1 They should review all the Ducati "classics' and basically redux a different 1 every 5 years. I want an Indiana. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 23, 2010, 07:40:30 AM I want an Indiana. You probably have an Edsel and a Corvair Ultra Van too, right? Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Grappa on July 23, 2010, 07:57:31 AM Maybe they could bring back the Elefant!! :D
Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 23, 2010, 08:00:49 AM Maybe they could bring back the Elefant!! :D "They" meaning Cagiva? Ducati just provided the engine, nothing else. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 23, 2010, 08:04:46 AM You probably have an Edsel and a Corvair Ultra Van too, right? Yup-just bought an Aztec, too. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 23, 2010, 08:07:25 AM Yup-just bought an Aztec, too. THe Aztec was just before its time, given the new Acura ZDX or BMW X6. Edsel and UltraVan (and Indiana...) were just turds. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Betty on July 23, 2010, 10:54:15 AM they should have custom ducati that you can mix match online and order straight frm factory like the R6. if i had all the money in the world.... Ducati 848 EVO with Ohlins front and rear with linear rates for 150lb rider straight from the factory, traction control enabled ecu and multi map feature, DP levers and rearsets + termi pipes. i like dreaming sometimes! Having done the latest 'must-do' mod to my S2R800 (exhaust, brakes & suspension) a workmate suggested Ducati should run their business like Dell whereby you just choose the parts you need for ... well ... your needs. They build it as necessary, the components are more or less the same just the specification is different. Having been to the factory and having seen their little 'build trolleys' I couldn't really fault his logic. Its an interesting concept. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Betty on July 23, 2010, 10:57:29 AM I agree, but not on the direction. My perception of the SC range is that it should have a rotating lineup of bikes that are completely different. Brilliant idea ... would have to be a more sustainable model (although development costs could be astronomical). I want an Indiana. Oddly enough this was my first thought as well. Not that I would want one but just what determines a 'classic' and who will decide. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: poseur on July 23, 2010, 11:54:10 AM http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2010/kawasaki/ninja/250r/prices/54713/05/index.html (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2010/kawasaki/ninja/250r/prices/54713/05/index.html) and i doubt that is true anyhow -- the Ninja 250R is still priced under $4000 I had a Ninja 250R, and it cost a bit over $5,000 after all the mystery charges and taxes. But that bike is really targeted to a sport bike rider, and the riding position is far from comfortable after about 30 minutes. Plus the gearing is insane. You ride around in town going 40 mph and revving around 7,000 rpms. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: DRKWNG on July 23, 2010, 12:53:49 PM or even better, a Monster with a D16 Maybe, maybe not. The big take-away with this bike is that you would ruin all your trousers in short order after purchase. Stain the front as soon as you start it, then stain the back as soon as you crack open the throttle. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 23, 2010, 01:04:36 PM Maybe, maybe not. The big take-away with this bike is that you would ruin all your trousers in short order after purchase. Stain the front as soon as you start it, then stain the back as soon as you crack open the throttle. i am so make the beast with two backsin' jaded, i would love a bike that made me shit my pants. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: DRKWNG on July 23, 2010, 01:08:31 PM i am so make the beast with two backsin' jaded, i would love a bike that made me shit my pants. make the beast with two backs man, that's easy. Go take a 'busa on any twisty road. ;D Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 23, 2010, 01:13:44 PM make the beast with two backs man, that's easy. Go take a 'busa on any twisty road. ;D Maybe one with a stretch swingarm, but that's expected. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: DoubleEagle on July 23, 2010, 04:08:22 PM or even better, a Monster with a D16 That would be totally awesome [thumbsup]Dolph [evil] Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: shiftless on July 23, 2010, 05:48:34 PM I would like to see a "Monster Classic" with a FULL trellis frame and a METAL fuel tank. Dry clutch too. [thumbsup] Ditto on that. Love the full trellis frame. Bring it back for the Monster (and metal tank)!! Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: SacDuc on July 23, 2010, 07:21:54 PM Having done the latest 'must-do' mod to my S2R800 (exhaust, brakes & suspension) a workmate suggested Ducati should run their business like Dell whereby you just choose the parts you need for ... well ... your needs. They build it as necessary, the components are more or less the same just the specification is different. Having been to the factory and having seen their little 'build trolleys' I couldn't really fault his logic. Its an interesting concept. Here's the fault in that logic: Ever tried to order a motorcycle part from Italia? Remember how long that took? Now picture trying to order a whole motorcycle. Now picture that a couple of the parts are not as specified when you opened the crate and it has to be sent back. "Man I was hoping to have my bike by the summer of 2012 but it looks like it will be spring of 2013. Bummer." sac Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on July 24, 2010, 02:43:59 AM Here's the fault in that logic: Ever tried to order a motorcycle part from Italia? Remember how long that took? Now picture trying to order a whole motorcycle. Now picture that a couple of the parts are not as specified when you opened the crate and it has to be sent back. "Man I was hoping to have my bike by the summer of 2012 but it looks like it will be spring of 2013. Bummer." sac they could do it lilke car dealers and have the options stateside... but it would be more expensive for them... maybe sell bare bikes and yo uhave to buy the options? i.e. exhaust, wheels, etc? Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: muskrat on July 24, 2010, 04:24:53 AM they could do it lilke car dealers and have the options stateside... but it would be more expensive for them... maybe sell bare bikes and yo uhave to buy the options? i.e. exhaust, wheels, etc? dream a little dream Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: fastwin on August 07, 2010, 05:36:55 AM Good news for Ducati in a down market. [thumbsup]
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100807a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100807a.htm) Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: desmoworks on August 07, 2010, 08:21:42 AM Good news for Ducati in a down market. [thumbsup] http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100807a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100807a.htm) I'd assume the MTS1200 had a lot to do with a July increase. I don't believe there were any new models out around July of last year were there? The 1200 is still in limited supply so almost all that are coming in are already spoken for. I heard a major shipment is on the way though so dealers will have good MTS 1200 inventory shortly. Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: fastwin on August 07, 2010, 08:53:16 AM Yeah, I'm betting the new Multi put a pretty big bump in those numbers.
Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Bill in OKC on August 07, 2010, 01:06:27 PM or even better, a Monster with a D16 In the mean time there is this: (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc190/stankbone/Laguna%20Seca%202010/DSC00835.jpg) Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: Raux on January 09, 2012, 01:03:34 AM Time to update this:
So with all the new rumors and speculations... and now with new motors/new bikes. What would be your ultimate Ducati Model Year lineup? D16 800 1199 Panigale 849 Panigale (750cc?) Diavel 1200 11deg SportTouring 1200 11deg Multistrada 1200 11deg Multistrada 848 11deg Streetfighter 1200 11deg Streetfighter 848 11deg Monster 1200 (>105hp, larger bore 1100 motor) Monster 900 (yes, I said 900, shorter stroke 1100 motor) Monster 699 (only small case motor, 696 but with revisions... larger bore, shorter stroke, more revs) SuperSport 1200 (>110hp) SuperSport 900 SuperSport 699 SuperMono 599 (half the 1199) Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: MendoDave on January 09, 2012, 04:27:15 AM I would like to see a "Monster Classic" with a FULL trellis frame and a METAL fuel tank. Dry clutch too. [thumbsup] Yeah me too. [thumbsup] Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: ducatiz on January 09, 2012, 04:48:12 AM I would like to see a "Monster Classic" with a FULL trellis frame and a METAL fuel tank. Dry clutch too. [thumbsup] Yeah me too. [thumbsup] +1 Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: OT on January 09, 2012, 08:20:07 AM [laugh]
Monster Classic....full trellis frame, dry clutch, metal fuel tank.... [clap] For Sale - 2004 M1000 in fastest red - full trellis frame, dry clutch, steel fuel tank....price reduced to $10,000.00 [wine] Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: MendoDave on January 09, 2012, 08:33:52 AM Oh boy!
Title: Re: Ducati Lineup Post by: muskrat on January 09, 2012, 04:10:15 PM So many dreams. ;)
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