im trying to start a new life. im sick of my job and my shit hole house. I would like to move out of new hampshire. The only thing that is really stopping me is my wife and kids, its hard to just drop everything and go. any one else done this? i mean just quit work and moved to another state or country? i need help! i feel like im loosing my goddamn mind(whatever is left of it) Any ideas? good jobs? places to live?
drop the wife and kids too ???
no i wouldnt do that. though sometimes i think they would be better off without me....i wouldnt care if it was just me, but having 3 other people who are depending on me to survive really makes it hard.
have you tried talking to them first about this?
I'd suggest not making too big of a change as it might be too much of a culture shock to the kids and not knowing your situation I'm just guessing her's and/or your families might be somewhat local to you now. Look maybe at what options you have while still remaining in the northeast. This all assumes that your wife and kids might not be comfortable and flexible with a big move. Of course rent first wherever you might go to make sure you don't lock yourself down with another bad for you choice.
Quote from: He Man on July 26, 2010, 06:09:21 AM
have you tried talking to them first about this?
Dude-this whole conversation is what a wife is for-go sort your shit out, come to some sort of conclusion with her, then see what that leaves.
Right now we recommend moving to LA and becoming a famous producer.
Without knowing more of your background, it's just as valid a suggestion as oil change tech at Jiffy Lube in St. Louis.
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 26, 2010, 06:38:30 AM
Dude-this whole conversation is what a wife is for-go sort your shit out, come to some sort of conclusion with her, then see what that leaves.
Right now we recommend moving to LA and becoming a famous producer.
Without knowing more of your background, it's just as valid a suggestion as oil change tech at Jiffy Lube in St. Louis.
I suggest a billionare porn star in Monaco
Quote from: lethe on July 26, 2010, 06:40:27 AM
I suggest a billionare porn star in Monaco
That's a job?
I'm applying.
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 26, 2010, 06:38:30 AM
Without knowing more of your background, it's just as valid a suggestion as oil change tech at Jiffy Lube in St. Louis.
My brother who is 13mons older than myself took a year off after college to sort out what he wanted to do and did a brief stint at a Jiffy Lube type shop in Bozeman Montana.
His favorite co-worker was the guy who was saving up all his money to head to the Chicken Ranch outside Vegas to make the beast with two backs his favorite porn-star who was on a special rotation there.............
[laugh] [laugh]
OP,
My wife and I (no kids, not having them.......have two dobermans) have talked for a while about moving out of the US abroad.
we believe we've found our country destination to become ex-pats........Costa Rica.
we are in the process of planning a few more trips down to see if it is a feasible venture as we are 29 and 30, so retirement isn't an option yet.
I'd have to give up my status as Mall Ninja, though, as I can't take any of my guns :(
and
there is no use for a Ducati down there.
I've done it. It's tough if you have older kids. If they're young, then it's much easier. I actually went first and travelled back home, then I found a place to live and packed the rest of the family once I was pretty establlished. I made sure that we could survive with only my paycheck until my wife was able to find a job. The kids adapted well.
Quote from: jccyberdemon on July 26, 2010, 05:40:02 AM
im trying to start a new life. im sick of my job and my shit hole house. I would like to move out of new hampshire. The only thing that is really stopping me is my wife and kids, its hard to just drop everything and go. any one else done this? i mean just quit work and moved to another state or country? i need help! i feel like im loosing my goddamn mind(whatever is left of it) Any ideas? good jobs? places to live?
First: Playing Pa Joad fleeing the Dustbowl is an act of last-hope/chance desperation...you have obligations...single folks and folks with a BIG pile of money can toss in the towel and try something new....the only thing stopping you from rethinking your life is NOT your wife and kids...do not blame them .....if you offer them a plan for a better way of life they will go.
Second: Have you HONESTLY assessed your discontent and motivations? Clearly you are unhappy but "unhappy" is a state of mind that has a LOT of causes.
Ever had a day when you had everything go right and your mood sucked anyway? and conversely had a day that went to shit from the get-go but you let it all roll off your back??...more often than not, mood/attitude has only a casual relationship with circumstance
Third: Fleeing where you are is a piss-poor substitute for building a plan and determining where you want to GO...set a goal, talk with your wife as MrI so wisely suggested,
use the suckosity of your current arrangement to motivate you...build a plan keep it in the forefront of your mind and you'll be able to wade through a sea of asparagus piss eating a shit sammich knowing it has an end...be a person who knows what they want rather than one of the countless many who figure out what they DON'T want, after the fact
my kids are real young 2 and 3. my wife is up for ditching the u.s. all together but like i said its hard not knowing if i could do better than im doing right now. usually when i get the feeling i need a change it usually works out, ive only gone up since getting married. but bills do pile up and i feel stuck. that shit sucks. i now am getting that feeling for a change. im not really qualified for much as ive been in so many different types of jobs.and right now am make the beast with two backsing broke. i have alot of shit i can sell if i decide to move. i dont really know where im going with this.......
i may have worded that whole wife and kids stopping me thing wrong...they arent stopping me and my wife wants to go too, my own fear for their well being is stopping me from making a stupid decision based on instinct. my wife has always been supportive of anything i do for some reason i dont understand(i come up with some pretty stupid shit sometimes).
With kids that age I would say that this would be the time to go for it. You'll need money to do it though.
i want suggestions as to where is the best place to find a job and fairly cheap rent.
Quote from: jccyberdemon on July 26, 2010, 07:25:18 AM
i want suggestions as to where is the best place to find a job and fairly cheap rent.
Is this thread a joke or are you being for real?
Best place to find a job and cheap rent?
Good lord man. TALK TO YOUR WIFE.
Have you made a priority list? How about a budget? (I am good with spreadsheets if you need help)
Do you have debt? What are your current fixed expenses? What are your current variable expenses?
401k?
College Fund for children?
How much do you have saved in an emergency fund that doesn't get touched?
If those are your two priorities.........then your mode of thinking is twisted.
I would think your first question is:
where is the best place for my children to attend school abroad?
That might be more reasonable.
Actually his goal is possible as it's my situation. However it means a commute of such length that people will question your sanity.
Outside of the US? Not many options out there. I would say you move south to North Carolina or Atlanta. North Carolina specifically is still relatively cheap and the job market is good.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 26, 2010, 07:37:45 AM
Is this thread a joke or are you being for real?
Best place to find a job and cheap rent?
Good lord man. TALK TO YOUR WIFE.
Have you made a priority list? How about a budget? (I am good with spreadsheets if you need help)
Do you have debt? What are your current fixed expenses? What are your current variable expenses?
401k?
College Fund for children?
How much do you have saved in an emergency fund that doesn't get touched?
If those are your two priorities.........then your mode of thinking is twisted.
I would think your first question is:
where is the best place for my children to attend school abroad?
That might be more reasonable.
have you ever heard of being spontaneous? you think i should look into finding a place that has schools before i find a job or a place to live? do i have debt? hell yes . expenses? they far exceed my income. emergency fund? lol!!!! its always an emergency living from paycheck to paycheck never mind when you get paid on friday and im make the beast with two backsing pennyless by saturday morning.
Quote from: jccyberdemon on July 26, 2010, 08:02:11 AM
have you ever heard of being spontaneous? you think i should look into finding a place that has schools before i find a job or a place to live? do i have debt? hell yes . expenses? they far exceed my income. emergency fund? lol!!!! its always an emergency living from paycheck to paycheck never mind when you get paid on friday and im make the beast with two backsing pennyless by saturday morning.
Being spontaneous applies to when you have no baggage my man. (wife considered not baggage.......kids are. Not meaning that in a negative way at all, you just have two small humans to care for)
1. Schools? Yes. You have to educate your children. Why would you find a job and place to live with a shitty education system for your children?
2. Debt - Get out of it. Pay it off.
If you expenses exceed your income then you are leaving WAY beyond your means.
I have spoken my piece and given you sound financial advice. Take a personal finance class or if you have a radio, listen to a guy name Dave Ramsey. He actually gives good advice while pitching his company.
I can't give you family advice as that has to come from discussions between you and your spouse.
im just gonna stop crying and get back to make the beast with two backsing work.....
I can't speak for the economy, but it sounds like you've trapped yourself and are feeling mired.
It's time to get your debts paid down so you no longer feel so trapped and overwhelmed. First things first-make a budget. Where is the money going, and where should it be going?
Living paycheck to paycheck will make you miserable-guaranteed.
Take a temporary second job, start paying off the debts-sell off some of the toys. Get out of debt, save some emergency funds, pack up, and find a new home. It can be done.
What skills do you have, if any?
like i said i think ill just shake the sand out of my vagina and keep on going [thumbsup]
Quote from: jccyberdemon on July 26, 2010, 08:43:34 AM
like i said i think ill just shake the sand out of my vagina and keep on going [thumbsup]
est of luck, but please consider making a plan/budget, or you'll just wake up someday and realize you're forty and no better off (I hope you're not already forty).
Quote from: jccyberdemon on July 26, 2010, 08:43:34 AM
like i said i think ill just shake the sand out of my vagina and keep on going [thumbsup]
If your expenses far exceed your income, then this won't help. You need a plan.
However, if you just hate your job but are OK, then welcome to the club! [laugh]
Good luck. [thumbsup]
Eh, I think this is a venting thread disguised as a question about places to live thread. I am sure people here can help with one or the other, but you gotta be clear and honest about which one you want to address, how, and how realistic it is to do that.
Unfortunately, the solution most people offer to not having the funds or skills to deal with budget issues is always this: have the funds or skills to deal with personal budget issues. What you should know -or be reminded of- is that there isn't a silver bullet. So, when people say "put together a budget" take that as "this problem is difficult, but not insurmountable and this is the first step toward getting there" and not "why are you failing when the solution is obvious?"
Looks like you are moving on from the topic, so I will wish you luck. Keep your head up.
It's tough to make a big change for sure. I wasn't happy with my situation for a myriad of reasons so I left with a split second decision and relocated to LA - looks to be the best decision I've ever made. It was hard though as Hannah and I had to leave our families behind (who we are close with) and I left a solid income from the business I built (and now abandoned in order to start over). I still had my other business, desmoworks, though to keep money coming in so relocating wasn't a problem financially since I still had income. desmoworks wasn't my main source of income though... it is at the moment, but that will change again once we establish the new business.
Lots of things to consider, but it is pretty obvious when a change is needed and as long as you are smart about it then a change can be a great thing!
Try looking into Texas, the job market here is still booming and housing is WAYYYYY cheaper than NH. Sure you'll suffer for two to three months of the year with heat but you can ride year-round and it really does feel like a whole other country.
What is your profession?
Do you have an education?
a lot of where you can/could potentially move will depend on your profession, if you have one. You might have many different skill sets, which can open you up to more options.
i can appreciate your situation but i want to echo what someone said earlier ... don't assume that moving to a new city and changing jobs will make you happy. i moved from NY to LA, had a good job, was living by the beach, ostensibly a good life by all measures, and still wasn't happy. came to realize that it was a lot of other stuff in my life that was causing that.
find someone to talk to (your wife of course, but also maybe a professional ... therapist, not a prostitute). don't get me wrong, a change of locale can definitely help, but you don't want to make a big move and find out it wasn't the answer to your problems.
Cyrus just asked the most important question. What do you do, and what tools do you have to do it with?
Do you speak any other languages?
South America is doing very well for itself right now, actually. And pprivate education down there far surpasses anything taught in the american system. And its cheap. I studied at the topp school in my country, a private, international school geared towards the offspring of multinationals. Tuition was about 5k a year. I have two high school degrees (IB and a national one) and was light years ahead of my classmates when I entered college in the states.
Right now, the place to be is Brazil. If you have any connection to oil, IT, or entertainment, Rio is your destination. That's probably where I'll end up in a couple.
to add to El Matador's note, yes South America is a great place. I concur with the education system there, when I moved here I didn't even crack a book because of the private schooling in Venezuela is that good. BUT don't go to Bolivia or Venezuela. Believe it or not Columbia is also a great place and Medellin is beautiful to boot. [thumbsup]
Quote from: muskrat on July 27, 2010, 06:33:43 AM
to add to El Matador's note, yes South America is a great place. I concur with the education system there, when I moved here I didn't even crack a book because of the private schooling in Venezuela is that good. BUT don't go to Bolivia or Venezuela. Believe it or not Columbia is also a great place and Medellin is beautiful to boot. [thumbsup]
+1 for Medellin. It's also a lot safer than it used to be an Venezuela is now the shithole. I also like Buenos Aires, which is coming back from their economic meltdown from a few years ago. A motivated person can make a ton of money down there.
Quote from: El Matador on July 26, 2010, 11:41:28 AM
Right now, the place to be is Brazil. If you have any connection to oil, IT, or entertainment, Rio is your destination. That's probably where I'll end up in a couple.
I am not sure I would call Brazil all that safe for Gringo's.
also, they are moving away from Petrol and going to sugar-cane based Ethanol.
The big company is Apex Brasil.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 07:08:58 AM
also, they are moving away from Petrol and going to sugar-cane based Ethanol.
The big company is Apex Brasil.
Not sure how that is relevant to the topic.
Also, why would this be considered to be a "bad" thing? Brazil has an overabundance of sugar cane. It is easily processed into fuel. With their Ethanol and domestic oil production, they are a net zero importer of foreign oil (they still import certain types of oil, but offset it with export of other types).
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on July 27, 2010, 07:50:51 AM
Not sure how that is relevant to the topic.
Also, why would this be considered to be a "bad" thing? Brazil has an overabundance of sugar cane. It is easily processed into fuel. With their Ethanol and domestic oil production, they are a net zero importer of foreign oil (they still import certain types of oil, but offset it with export of other types).
1. It was relevant to Matador's post
2. I never said it was a bad thing, did I?
I was mentioning that the sugar-cane ethanol business in Brazil.
Sometimes my friend, you have to read between the lines or must I spell everything out so a first grader can read it?
Booming business = job creation
correct?
And yes, I know about Brazil and it being (I believe) the only self reliant country in the world on energy.
Quote from: duccarlos on July 27, 2010, 06:38:20 AM
Venezuela is now the shithole.
Just because we have an Autocratic make the beast with two backshead dictator does not necessarily imply shithole. But sadly, that is where the country is headed.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 07:08:58 AM
I am not sure I would call Brazil all that safe for Gringo's.
also, they are moving away from Petrol and going to sugar-cane based Ethanol.
The big company is Apex Brasil.
Now I know you had an uncle / twice removed stepcousin / Dogsitter's boyfriend's cellmate who once saw a discovery channel special on Brazil where they might have mentioned ethanol. As such, you are now the definitive authority on the subject. But if I were able to submit my completely uninformed, asinine, and irrelevant opinion on the matter, I'll try to explain why you're so damn wide of the mark.
The Massive discoveries in the Campos Basin mean that PetroBras (The big company) has more oil than it knows what to do with, several BILLION barrels. As such, the whole industry is being based out of Rio and a secondary industry is being created to service the main one.
To top things off the world cup is just around the corner, based out of Rio as well. This means that Rio is now the largest growing city in the world, economically speaking. You can't throw a rock in any direction without hitting a job opportunity. Furthermore, policde have finally gotten the favela situation under control, and with the Government's attention focused in turning Rio into the cosmopolitan capital of SA, it means that any gringo that has two fingers of forehead is heading that way, trying not to be too overwhelmed by all the high paying job offers being thrown to them.
Any questions?
Your post confused me?
1. I mentioned that Brazil isn't very safe in places, more so than other countries. I am not off the mark on that. Maybe Rio has cleaned up their act, but Sao Paolo sure hasn't.
2. I am well aware of the oil industry in brazil, but they also hit a home run with the abundance of sugar cane and their ability to convert that to a viable energy source thus making it a nice export product for other countries.
I have no interest in moving to Brazil for many reasons.
Any questions?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 10:24:46 AM
Your post confused me?
1. I mentioned that Brazil isn't very safe in places, more so than other countries. I am not off the mark on that. Maybe Rio has cleaned up their act, but Sao Paolo sure hasn't.
2. I am well aware of the oil industry in brazil, but they also hit a home run with the abundance of sugar cane and their ability to convert that to a viable energy source thus making it a nice export product for other countries.
I have no interest in moving to Brazil for many reasons.
Any questions?
I thought my post was perfectly understandable :-\
1. The US isn't very safe in places either. Brazil is safer than others. I doubt you'll be much safer in Compton than in Rio. Government is making sure of that. Even Sao P. is lightyears ahead of what it once was.
2. You are wrong about the industry moving to ethanol. No two ways about it. Not even close.
Questions:
Only one.
Why do you make definitive statements about things that you don't really know about?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 08:44:27 AM
1. It was relevant to Matador's post
2. I never said it was a bad thing, did I?
I was mentioning that the sugar-cane ethanol business in Brazil.
Sometimes my friend, you have to read between the lines or must I spell everything out so a first grader can read it?
Booming business = job creation
correct?
And yes, I know about Brazil and it being (I believe) the only self reliant country in the world on energy.
While I feel compelled to defend my post, El Matador seems to have done a pretty good job for me.
However, as for "reading between the lines" on your post, I did.
You quoted a portion of El Matador's post which dealt with the business sectors in Brazil that you consider to be booming.
You then mentioned that you did not feel Rio was safe for "gringos". I took that to have a negative connotation.
You then followed up with the line about Brazil moving to an Ethanol fuel. You happened to use the word "Also" when starting that thought. In that case, since the first part of your response had a negative connotation, I took the "also" to indicate the rest of your post to have a negative connotation.
In addition, since El Matador's post included the oil industry, and you mentioned "ethanol" my thinking that your post had a negative connotation was reinforced.
If I misread between your lines, please forgive me. I must not have a reading comprehension above a first grader.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 08:44:27 AM
And yes, I know about Brazil and it being (I believe) the only self reliant country in the world on energy.
Eh, I can think of at least 12 others. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC)
Someone please retitle this thread "Suggestions on places to move, where the people recommending a destination wouldn't want to move there themselves on account of the place being a lawless wasteland, but we hear they run cars on unicorn tears" ;D
If I am so make the beast with two backsing far off, then why is Brazil ranked around 10th in the world in enegery consumption and the majority of it is renewable?
Hydroelectric and ethanol being the largest
Last I checked, natural gas and oil (the two non-renewable energy sources the country uses) aren't renewable; they came from those dinosaurs.
As for safety:
When my company sends people to Brazil (Rio) they get two armed escorts at all times.
A co-worker down the hallway used to run our office in Rio; she had a full-time armed driver.
Last time I traveled on business to San Fran, I didn't have an armed driver........
Unless Mr and Mrs I had some AK's in the trunk.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 11:12:59 AM
Last time I traveled on business to San Fran, I didn't have an armed driver........
Unless Mr and Mrs I had some AK's in the trunk.
I'm a black belt, my hands and feet are my weapons of choice. ;)
When I was in Brazil on business, I didn't have armed escorts, nor did I feel the need for one. I was in Sao Paolo, Rio, and Foz do Iguacu.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 11:12:59 AM
If I am so make the beast with two backsing far off, then why is Brazil ranked around 10th in the world in enegery consumption and the majority of it is renewable?
Hydroelectric and ethanol being the largest
Last I checked, natural gas and oil (the two non-renewable energy sources the country uses) aren't renewable;
They are renewable. It just takes a really long time.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 11:12:59 AM
If I am so make the beast with two backsing far off, then why is Brazil ranked around 10th in the world in enegery consumption and the majority of it is renewable?
Hydroelectric and ethanol being the largest
Using and producing are not the same thing. Just because the country also happens to have interests in ethanol production does not mean that it is their main industry, or that they're shifting focus towards it. Throwing up some unreferenced fact does not negate the fact that you made ignorant, erroneous remarks earlier.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 11:12:59 AM
As for safety:
When my company sends people to Brazil (Rio) they get two armed escorts at all times.
A co-worker down the hallway used to run our office in Rio; she had a full-time armed driver.
I find this hard to believe. Unless your coworker was some sort of Favela missionary.
I have been to Brasil pretty extensively. I've been to Rio, Sao P, Manaus and Belem. I even went when Sao P was at it's peak sketchyness. Never did I feel threatened. Like every city it has its good parts and its really horrible ones.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 11:12:59 AM
Last time I traveled on business to San Fran, I didn't have an armed driver........
Unless Mr and Mrs I had some AK's in the trunk.
Compton is in LA, not San Fran. Very different places.
so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?
Quote from: jccyberdemon on July 27, 2010, 12:05:28 PM
so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?
yes, get your English/Spanish dictionary warmed up, your plane leaves in the morning.
Quote from: lethe on July 27, 2010, 12:07:13 PM
yes, get your English/SpanishPortuguese dictionary warmed up, your plane leaves in the morning.
fify
Quote from: El Matador on July 27, 2010, 11:47:57 AM
Using and producing are not the same thing. Just because the country also happens to have interests in ethanol production does not mean that it is their main industry, or that they're shifting focus towards it. Throwing up some unreferenced fact does not negate the fact that you made ignorant, erroneous remarks earlier.
I find this hard to believe. Unless your coworker was some sort of Favela missionary.
I have been to Brasil pretty extensively. I've been to Rio, Sao P, Manaus and Belem. I even went when Sao P was at it's peak sketchyness. Never did I feel threatened. Like every city it has its good parts and its really horrible ones.
Compton is in LA, not San Fran. Very different places.
Oil is not Brazil's main industry. Mining mostly makes up that portion of their GDP. Industry is 28.7% of their GDP. Do your homework, son.
I realize using and producing are two different things.
Brazil started experimenting with Ethanol in the 1970's when the world market for petroleum went through the ceiling.
By the mid 80's they were already producing and using ethanol in a high percentage of their vehicles.
Brazil is the largest exporter in the world of Coffee and about 20% of their workforce is involved in agriculture.
Until recently, Brazil just discovered their vast offshore oil reserves and internal reserves which has lead to massive deforestation of the Amazon.
They aren't even one of the top 10 biggest exporters of oil in the world.
Therefore, to say that Brazil is a major player in oil is a big erroneous and ignorant on your part, wouldn't you say?
do your own research; I won't do it for you, but prove me wrong on the above. I'll do it for you.
2008 US State Department Statistics:
Economy (2008)
GDP (official exchange rate): $1.573 trillion.
GDP (purchasing power parity): $1.977 trillion.
Annual real growth (2008): 5.1%.
Per capita GDP (official exchange rate): $8,300.
Per capita GDP (purchasing power parity): $9,700.
Natural resources: Iron ore, manganese, bauxite, nickel, uranium, gemstones, oil, wood, and aluminum. Brazil has 14% of the world's renewable fresh water.
Agriculture (5.8% of GDP): Products--coffee, soybeans, sugarcane, cocoa, rice, livestock, corn, oranges, cotton, wheat, and tobacco.
Industry (28.7% of GDP): Types--steel, commercial aircraft, chemicals, petrochemicals, footwear, machinery, motors, vehicles, auto parts, consumer durables, cement, and lumber.
Services (65.8% of GDP): Types--mail, telecommunications, banking, energy, commerce, and computing.
As for safety........must be my company that sends employees with guards and drivers. Along with most of the major banks in the world.
As for Compton and San Fran...........I know they are different.
It was a joke.
Quote from: jccyberdemon on July 27, 2010, 12:05:28 PM
so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?
Go for it.
Matador will show you the ropes [thumbsup]
Quote from: jccyberdemon on July 27, 2010, 12:05:28 PM
so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?
Funny, I was juuusssttt about to post something to the affect of "threadjack"....
Why don't you see if there's something/somewhere in the states that interests you first. (Climate, population, activities, mountains, water, desert, etc.) Find out what your and your wife's strengths are for job hunting/resume' purposes. In other words, research research research!
If you're serious, it sounds like you need to start selling stuff to help with the debt load. And do you want to pay to move the stuff you don't HAVE to have, not to mention the hassle of moving it. Plus, it'll put more $ in your pocket for expenses that you have going on.
Do you have a house/mortgage? Get referrals for realtors and have them help suggest what you need to do to put your place on the market for the best possible price. Some real estate companies have relocation departments who can also help you in many ways. It's possible that if you do have a house, it could be your biggest ball and chain to keep you from moving any time soon.
I knew years ago that I wanted to move from Michigan to Colorado. After about a dozen years it finally happened but I planned, researched, didn't do it without having a job and visited (non-vacation) to figure out exactly where I wanted to be. No kids made it much more easy but if you and your wife are in agreement, their ages should have little to do with it.
My personal opinion is that school systems should not be a priority right now. Figure out where you want to move to, rent and then you may find, after being a part of a particular geographical area, you want to live a community or two away a few years down the road because of a school system you prefer.
There are a lot of resources on the internet besides the DMF to help Do your home work. Research! And most of all, if you decide not to move, don't pregnant dog about how sucky life is. Do something to make it better with the circumstances and abilities you have! [thumbsup]
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 12:11:20 PM
They aren't even one of the top 10 biggest exporters of oil in the world.
Therefore, to say that Brazil is a major player in oil is a big erroneous and ignorant on your part, wouldn't you say?
From Wiki:
Petróleo Brasileiro S.A., is a semi-public[3] Brazilian multinational energy company headquartered in Rio de Janeiro.
Petrobras is the world's fourth largest energy company[4] and the largest company in Latin America by market capitalization and revenue, and the largest company headquartered in the Southern Hemisphere.
Petrobras' most important assets are petroleum reserves in Brazil. Its oil field in the Campos Basin accounts more than 80% of the Brazilian oil production. The company also works on developing the "green energy", including biodiesel fuel. Petrobras recently opened its business to the ethanol fuel, facing great competition against the North American ethanol. However, investment in biofuels will represent only 1% of the company's profit between 2008 and 2012.[19]
[roll]
As for the irrelevant history lesson, Thanks I guess?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 12:11:20 PM
Oil is not Brazil's main industry. Mining mostly makes up that portion of their GDP. Industry is 28.7% of their GDP. Do your homework, son.
I never claimed it to be. If you use your self acclaimed higher-than-first-grade reading comprehension you'll be able to ascertain that I only said that ethanol was not their main industry. No more than that.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 12:11:20 PM
As for safety........must be my company that sends employees with guards and drivers. Along with most of the major banks in the world.
Isn't this SOP for banks everywhere? Which would make your argument kind of pointless and irrelevant.
Look Cyrus, I can keep doing this all day. You'll try to defend your ignorance based misinformation and I'll keep shooting you down. Just drop it will ya? You already look foolish.
Quote from: jccyberdemon on July 27, 2010, 12:05:28 PM
so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?
It's a really good place to be. If you're willing to make a big change it's probably your best bet for finding a good job put of the states. You still haven't said what you do.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 27, 2010, 12:11:20 PM
Oil is not Brazil's main industry. Mining mostly makes up that portion of their GDP. Industry is 28.7% of their GDP. Do your homework, son.
I realize using and producing are two different things.
Brazil started experimenting with Ethanol in the 1970's when the world market for petroleum went through the ceiling.
By the mid 80's they were already producing and using ethanol in a high percentage of their vehicles.
Brazil is the largest exporter in the world of Coffee and about 20% of their workforce is involved in agriculture.
Until recently, Brazil just discovered their vast offshore oil reserves and internal reserves which has lead to massive deforestation of the Amazon.
They aren't even one of the top 10 biggest exporters of oil in the world.
Therefore, to say that Brazil is a major player in oil is a big erroneous and ignorant on your part, wouldn't you say?
do your own research; I won't do it for you, but prove me wrong on the above. I'll do it for you.
2008 US State Department Statistics:
Economy (2008)
GDP (official exchange rate): $1.573 trillion.
GDP (purchasing power parity): $1.977 trillion.
Annual real growth (2008): 5.1%.
Per capita GDP (official exchange rate): $8,300.
Per capita GDP (purchasing power parity): $9,700.
Natural resources: Iron ore, manganese, bauxite, nickel, uranium, gemstones, oil, wood, and aluminum. Brazil has 14% of the world's renewable fresh water.
Agriculture (5.8% of GDP): Products--coffee, soybeans, sugarcane, cocoa, rice, livestock, corn, oranges, cotton, wheat, and tobacco.
Industry (28.7% of GDP): Types--steel, commercial aircraft, chemicals, petrochemicals, footwear, machinery, motors, vehicles, auto parts, consumer durables, cement, and lumber.
Services (65.8% of GDP): Types--mail, telecommunications, banking, energy, commerce, and computing.
As for safety........must be my company that sends employees with guards and drivers. Along with most of the major banks in the world.
As for Compton and San Fran...........I know they are different.
It was a joke.
STOP ALREADY!
Quote from: El Matador on July 27, 2010, 12:30:54 PM
From Wiki:
Petróleo Brasileiro S.A., is a semi-public[3] Brazilian multinational energy company headquartered in Rio de Janeiro.
Petrobras is the world's fourth largest energy company[4] and the largest company in Latin America by market capitalization and revenue, and the largest company headquartered in the Southern Hemisphere.
Petrobras' most important assets are petroleum reserves in Brazil. Its oil field in the Campos Basin accounts more than 80% of the Brazilian oil production. The company also works on developing the "green energy", including biodiesel fuel. Petrobras recently opened its business to the ethanol fuel, facing great competition against the North American ethanol. However, investment in biofuels will represent only 1% of the company's profit between 2008 and 2012.[19]
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As for the irrelevant history lesson, Thanks I guess?
I never claimed it to be. If you use your self acclaimed higher-than-first-grade reading comprehension you'll be able to ascertain that I only said that ethanol was not their main industry. No more than that.
Isn't this SOP for banks everywhere? Which would make your argument kind of pointless and irrelevant.
Look Cyrus, I can keep doing this all day. You'll try to defend your ignorance based misinformation and I'll keep shooting you down. Just drop it will ya? You already look foolish.
It's a really good place to be. If you're willing to make a big change it's probably your best bet for finding a good job put of the states. You still haven't said what you do.
I am an ignorant moron. I am not educated and dumb. You got me.
No, that is not SOP for banks everywhere.
By the way, I am very familiar with Brazilian industry.
I had three interviews with a Brazilian Steel Company 4 years ago and decided against the move as I ended up deciding I didn't like the culture of the company. The job was in Tampa, FL.
Why do you think my wife moved to Ohio instead of me to Florida?
TAKE IT TO A PM!
Quote from: Stella on July 27, 2010, 12:48:24 PM
TAKE IT TO A PM!
Pissing Match? Sac just started a thread for them. [laugh]
Brazil requires a Portuguese dictionary :P
Seriously though look into Colombia, Peru, Chile and Argentina if this is really what you want. I do like Brazil but damn the traffic!
I wouldn't mind Rio. Good moto roads? They building any tunnels? Does it rain a lot there? I can do without rain for a while. ;D
Quote from: lethe on July 27, 2010, 12:07:13 PM
yes, get your English/Spanish dictionary warmed up, your plane leaves in the morning.
They speak Portuguese in Brazil. Spanish won't get you that far.
Quote from: superjohn on July 27, 2010, 02:11:39 PM
They speak Portuguese in Brazil. Spanish won't get you that far.
it would in a Mexican restaurant there
next bullshit threadjack pissing match, Cyrus, and the account is gone. We're all getting sick of the shit once again.
jccyberdemon, sorry for the asshats. Feel free to start another thread about this if you'd like.