I work with a bunch of golfers. Every day I have to listen to them talk about how they played, how bad someone was, or who showed up and who didn't.
Anyone else work with a bunch of girls that think golfing is the end all and look at you like you are crazy if you ride (especially a dirt bike) ? I mean hell, if the weather is good enough to go chase a little white ball around with spiked shoes while drinking a coors light at 9am, then it's damn well good enough to go rut out some dirt, fall down and get hurt, or carve up some favorite roads!
You "can" do both. Nothing wrong with a little golf. ;)
My wife told me that she was okay with the motorcycles, but she'd leave me if I took up golf. Since I can't get a golf bag on my Monster, it's not a problem.
I played golf once, I bent the club and threw it into the trees out of anger.
Never tried it again, that "sport" is for people who think taking a dump is exciting.
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on July 27, 2010, 08:17:42 PM
I played golf once, I bent the club and threw it into the trees out of anger.
Never tried it again, that "sport" is for people who think taking a dump is exciting.
Or, for people that have enough patience to hit a ball that is just sitting there. :D
Playing golf is one thing, at least you are out and about. But golf on TV? Don't know what's wrose, watching golf on TV or watching a bunch of cars turning left in a circle. I apologie if you enjoy that sort of things. :P
Quote from: Goat_Herder on July 27, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
Playing golf is one thing, at least you are out and about. But golf on TV? Don't know what's wrose, watching golf on TV or watching a bunch of cars turning left in a circle. I apologie if you enjoy that sort of things. :P
As a golfer, I can watch hours and hours of how it is (supposed to be) played at the top level. ;)
Oh, and I can listen to people who think they can "race," for less time. :D
Playing golf is fun, more fun depending on your attitude. However, playing one round takes at least six hours once you figure in commute, warm up and then the 19th hole.
Riding my Duc is therapeutic and I can get a quick fix after dark and in much less time.
So far for me, golf is cheaper.
I've got some coworkers who followed in my footsteps and got motorcycles, I think we all went through some sort of crisis period and had to get new toys. Others have their activities they're so passionate about, some which I just simply do not understand, but fortunately no one has eyed me strangely for riding. We'll see how the situation is at my new job I start August 16th.
I used to golf a lot more, now I think 9 holes is enough, 18 holes is too much. I also used to be pretty good, now I'm atrocious. I don't golf for the satisfaction of getting a low score, it's just getting outside away from the crap I have to deal with and just relax while having a cigar with buddies as we insult one another in good humor.
I enjoy riding the motorcycle for the opposite reasons, I find it exciting and gets my blood pumping. I did a really nice ride this past Sunday with Sac and Junk (see what I did there? 8)) and I'm a new rider still by most standards, so I was pushing it to keep up with them. When I finally go home my hands were shaking a little (Sac knows why I was spooked), but it's nice to feel alive. Golf doesn't make me feel alive, it's just a timeout from the bullshit with less danger.
I do both .....
Rode the Monster to the club ..... play a round of golf & rode back home ...... enjoying them so far ...
Quote from: NoisyDante on July 27, 2010, 09:46:36 PM
I don't golf for the satisfaction of getting a low score, it's just getting outside away from the crap I have to deal with and just relax while having a cigar with buddies as we insult one another in good humor.
Most folks will never get that. They are so pissed off that they can't hit a ball that isn't moving, they loose their mind. :D
I know it's hilarious. I learned a long time ago that to get better one must play constantly, nd I have no time for that. I am however very good at making fun of myself, so that's how I look at it. Really made it more enjoyable.
No golfers in my neck of the woods, lots of musicians, artists, and filmmakers in our collective at work. My hobby is generally taking things apart and modifying them, especially if it has an engine and wheels. [moto] I don't know if I have the patience for golf, even if I did, I don't think find the game compelling enough to try.
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on July 27, 2010, 08:17:42 PM
Never tried it again, that "sport" is for people who think taking a dump is exciting.
I get excited every time I have to take a dump.
Unless it's after 2 days of Taco bell. [bang]
I've been riding motorcycles since I was 14years old, thats 53years of fun with a capital "F" I've had one round of golf which didn't ring my bell but, and heres the but, we are all different and shouldn't condem each other for not following our particular sport or hobby we just need to live and let live... [beer]
[coffee]
Be glad people you work with don't ride. This allows you to get the heck away from "work" on your off days....even though it's too damn hot to ride.
Quote from: duc750 on July 28, 2010, 12:36:09 AM
I get excited every time I have to take a dump.
Unless it's after 2 days of Taco bell. [bang]
That usually warrants a different level of excitement, namely the random, frantic sprints to the bathroom....
Funny this should come up...I was at a biz lunch yesterday w/4 others 1 of which is my boss. All 4 yapping away about 3 woods, fairways and the ilk. One of our supplier reps turns to me,"You golf Stu?" "Nope." Table goes silent and I find 8 eyes looking at me like I don't know what I'm missing... But, maybe I don't? Been at least 12 years since I did that 9 holes. Perhaps I'd like it now?!? Maybe, but I don't think so... I'd rather spend my free time actually away from work as mentioned above.
Can't helpmthinking of a sticker on my toolbox: F&ck this, let's ride!
You'd be interested to know this uniform was given to me by the Captain of the Links
of St. Andrews in Scotland. They invented the game there, but they call it "gof" without the "L" as we do.
I work in a hospital, nursing in a sub-specialty clinic, I am surrounded by "white coats" who golf. Makes me want to puke, rofl. Lucky for me, two others in the nursing staff (soon to be third) and our unit clerk ride. Too bad they are big sofa bikes but at least I can talk about bikes at work. I am slowly steering them all to a least wear their gear, well except for the one HD riding RN (sigh).
It is fun sometimes when the MD's get on about being organ doners and such.
I like to ride the duc almost anytime, but golfing and fishing have a general conflict of interest with regards to weather........I choose fishing almost everytime. [beer]
Quote from: iamhybris on July 28, 2010, 03:30:56 AM
I like to ride the duc almost anytime, but golfing and fishing have a general conflict of interest with regards to weather........I choose fishing almost everytime. [beer]
+1 on the fishing when not riding/working.
I think any sports can be exciting. Watching a close last round of a Masters with the best golfers in the world is one of the most tense and exciting sporting events you can watch. A lot like playoff football. Every play is critical.
That being said, I ride the bike to get away, to relax, and to have fun. To me golfing is not fun it is frustrating.
I did start playing disc golf this spring and go about 3 times a week now. It cost me 40 bucks for all the equipment and almost every course is free. It also only takes me an hour to do 18 holes. Much easier than golf, and usually you're playing in the forest which is much nicer. Basically its hiking with having something to do. I love every minute of it and would suggest it to anyone.
Hang this up at your desk...
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I do both and play golf better than i ride since i teach golf as a second income and generally when i'm on can shoot in the low 70s or high 60s on the rare occasion. Best handicap was around a +2. I'll admit i really do love riding my S2R and since i don't have a lot of golfing buddies i tend to ride more than i golf.
Quote from: Duck-Stew on July 28, 2010, 02:31:42 AM
Funny this should come up...I was at a biz lunch yesterday w/4 others 1 of which is my boss. All 4 yapping away about 3 woods, fairways and the ilk. One of our supplier reps turns to me,"You golf Stu?" "Nope." Table goes silent and I find 8 eyes looking at me like I don't know what I'm missing... But, maybe I don't? Been at least 12 years since I did that 9 holes. Perhaps I'd like it now?!? Maybe, but I don't think so... I'd rather spend my free time actually away from work as mentioned above.
Can't helpmthinking of a sticker on my toolbox: F&ck this, let's ride!
a better answer would have been "... nope, I stopped when that study came out linking ED and golf..."
golf is one of those sports that is necessary for business since if you think about it, in many ways its good for older people.
the scoring is the only sport that has a "handicap" built into it, so that as you age and possibly get worse compared to when you were better due to lacking of speed flexibility, etc, you still have a marker point to shoot for. then you can say you are "playing against" a score not an absolute score like as in a track time for running or such.
also comparatively you need athletic ability to play at the highest level and to be very good no doubt there, but to be just very good or good, you don't need to be able to run 10 miles at a certain pace or work on aerobic capacity or fast twitch mucsles to be good for long, something that someone 50 or older may not be able to do or someoene that is overweight.
golf does take good hand eye coordination, flexibility and practice but from what i have heard from people is that the swing is the main thing and if you have that the power you will lose over time but you will still be very good if you have a great swing and less power over the years.
who knows.
I don't golf, I tried golfing a few times but never really got into it, but I do scuba dive. I recently got back into diving after a few years away from it.
Some of the things I love about riding are the sense of freedom you get, and the totality of concentration when you're railing on the twisties. You don't have the time to think about anything else but the road, so a lot of the everyday worries slide past for the duration of the ride.
Some of the things I like about diving are the sense of freedom, the underwater environment, and the relaxation of diving. When you have you buoyancy right, its like you're weightless, even though you have a bunch of gear on, you seem like you're flying. Also, like riding, you don't have the time to think about your everyday cares & worries.
As for work, I'm a driver for UPS, so I really don't have that much interaction with my co-workers, but I do have a few customers who ride, and follow racing, to BS with during the day. [thumbsup]
My co-workers and customers all seem to think it's pretty cool that I ride, even if they don't. It's never been an issue for me.
And I know at least one golfer at work who has strapped his golf clubs to his back for commuting on his FZ1.
Quote from: sbrguy on July 28, 2010, 06:38:52 AM
golf is one of those sports that is necessary for business since if you think about it, in many ways its good for older people.
This is definitely true. My recent experience with this was as I interviewed for my new job I learned the managing director was an avid golfer, so he and I did get into a nice conversation about that. He is ultimately the one who will be promoting me in the future, so I can use golf to foster a good relationship.
Similarly, I picked up on the fact that the engineers in my future department ride (there were magazines and bike models all over the place, and one guys ringtone was a bike engine) so I brought up that common interest knowing they were the ones evaluating me. They did end up giving me the thumbs up to the director.
It would seem having interest in both activities helped me out in this case.
Quote from: NoisyDante on July 27, 2010, 09:46:36 PM
I've got some coworkers who followed in my footsteps and got motorcycles, I think we all went through some sort of crisis period and had to get new toys. Others have their activities they're so passionate about, some which I just simply do not understand, but fortunately no one has eyed me strangely for riding. We'll see how the situation is at my new job I start August 16th.
I used to golf a lot more, now I think 9 holes is enough, 18 holes is too much. I also used to be pretty good, now I'm atrocious. I don't golf for the satisfaction of getting a low score, it's just getting outside away from the crap I have to deal with and just relax while having a cigar with buddies as we insult one another in good humor.
I enjoy riding the motorcycle for the opposite reasons, I find it exciting and gets my blood pumping. I did a really nice ride this past Sunday with Sac and Junk (see what I did there? 8)) and I'm a new rider still by most standards, so I was pushing it to keep up with them. When I finally go home my hands were shaking a little (Sac knows why I was spooked), but it's nice to feel alive. Golf doesn't make me feel alive, it's just a timeout from the bullshit with less danger.
Don't beat yourself up. Everyone reading this has blown a turn now and then. You had a clean road with little traffic and a good line of sight. There are worse corners to blow. It was fun riding with you and getting to know you during the 3 hours we were waiting for Bacon Junkie to show up. We'll have to hit the 33 again soon. And don't worry about "pushing it to keep up" Ride your ride. We would never leave you out there. We constantly check our rear view mirrors and occasionally slow up to let people catch up. If they take longer than we think they should we will circle back and make sure there was not an accident. Missing out on a few minute of bench racing isn't worth a potential crash caused by riding above your limit.
On the other hand, pushing yourself is why we go to roads like that in the first place. Its fun trying to learn to go faster. Just make sure you are pushing yourself and that you are not using others as a gauge for how fast you should be going. Your own comfort level is the only safe judge of your speed.
Let's ride again soon! [moto]
Cheers.
sac
/also, make the beast with two backs golf
Thanks man, it was good riding with you guys as well, and I definitely wanna get back out sooner than later. Silly mistake slipping off the brake, and I did go in hot, but the next turn was visible so it wasn't completely blind and I didn't make a huge effort to correct it immediately, so it looked worse than it really was I guess.
Best way to get better is to ride with those better than you, and I definitely learned some stuff.
And of course, with anything in life, an immediate Big Lebowski quote came to mind.
Over the Line!!!!
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None of my coworkers ride. In fact, I work for one of the least ride friendly employers in this country, the United States Air Force. I can't even begin to count how many times I have had someone "senior" to me tell how much of a bad idea it was to ride a motorcycle. Well, I recently moved into a new area, and new workplace and have gotten stuck on staff duty (HOORAY!!). We were sitting through the three star's staff meeting this afternoon when the conversation topic changed to the dreaded 101 critical days of summer, which we are halfway through. Well, turns out some one had commissioned a research project to determine the most likely way for other service members to punch that big ticket, and what do you suppose the result was? That's right, motorcycles. At this point, said three star looks around the room and states "I sure hope I don't have anyone on my staff who rides motorcycles. Does anyone here ride?". Two people turn and look straight at me, so I tell him that I do, knowing what is about to come. His response didn't surprise, nor disappoint. He looks me dead in the eye and says "Son, I want you to give that up before you hurt yourself". I thanked him for his concern and waved at him later as I got on the bike and rode home.
So yea... I love my job...
Quote from: redxblack on July 27, 2010, 08:02:06 PM
My wife told me that she was okay with the motorcycles, but she'd leave me if I took up golf. Since I can't get a golf bag on my Monster, it's not a problem.
http://www.ironhorsecaddybag.com/ (http://www.ironhorsecaddybag.com/)
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 28, 2010, 02:00:47 PM
I thanked him for his concern and waved at him later as I got on the bike and rode home.
So yea... I love my job...
That's a pretty rotten situation, but you handled it well. My wife was pretty hard freaked out when I started riding due to statistics. Since I've been riding, she's been paying attention to the wrecks, riding habits and general rider culture. It's too bad that "motorcycles" get the tag instead of cruiser road pirates and stuntas. Sure, anyone can go down at any time through their own fault or that of others, but realistically the people on this forum are much less likely to be hurt than the "three beers on bike night and sunglasses as gear" crowd.
Quote from: redxblack on July 28, 2010, 02:59:01 PM
That's a pretty rotten situation, but you handled it well.
Funny thing is, this same three star knows I don't give a rats ass what he thinks. I was originally slated to go to a particular office when I moved to the DC area, and it was a spot that I busted my ass to get and was really looking forward to working there. Well, this guy reviewed my personnel file and decided to have my assignment diverted and place me on his staff so he could "groom me" for my future air force career. He called me into his office when I first got up here to inform me of the opportunity that I had been given. Again, I thanked him for taking my best interests into consideration, but also told him that he should have inquired what my interests were before trying to look out for them, as I had no intention of staying in the military longer than the 18 months required for taking these orders.
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 28, 2010, 02:00:47 PM
In fact, I work for one of the least ride friendly employers in this country, the United States Air Force.
So yea... I love my job...
+1,
I get confused if it was the 1st, 2d or 3rd MSF riders course the Army made me take over a 7 year period that was my favorite. My bad, its the dayglow yellow jacket and/or vest I now wear that is my favorite. Yeah, thats the ticket.
I don't mind the courses. Hell, I'm a big fan of the free training programs. The part that gets me going is the fact that the people writing the safety regs for the AF don't have a clue about motorcycle safety. Take one thing for instance, they let a guy ride onto Bolling the other day in a long sleeve t-shirt (he had his orange road-guard vest on over the shirt), cotton trousers, chuck taylors, what looked to be a pair of golf gloves and a salad bowl helmet. But then they stop me and tell me I don't have adequate safety gear on. I was wearing a white Dainese Santa Monica jacket (they have reflective material on them already), full face helmet, Cortech draggin' jeans and my Held Phantom gloves. I ask the guard how my gear is "less safe" than the guy before me, and he answers "yours isn't bright yellow".
Thankfully, I don't work on a military base and was only stopping for fuel at Bolling...
Quote from: Airborne on July 28, 2010, 04:44:10 AM
Hang this up at your desk...
(http://www.gatwisties.com/images/ogre/motivation/trackdays.jpg)
hehe I was looking for that poster. Here is another one.
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Quote from: geoffduc on July 28, 2010, 12:42:57 AM
I've been riding motorcycles since I was 14years old, thats 53years of fun with a capital "F" I've had one round of golf which didn't ring my bell but, and heres the but, we are all different and shouldn't condem each other for not following our particular sport or hobby we just need to live and let live... [beer]
[coffee]
well said geoffduc [thumbsup]
Quote from: mraff on July 28, 2010, 02:39:31 PM
http://www.ironhorsecaddybag.com/ (http://www.ironhorsecaddybag.com/)
They don't need that in Jakarta
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I learned not to talk about bike related stories with co-workers quickly. They just don't get it and think it's a crazy sport. Besides, I heard one of my co-workers say that she wishes she could open the door when a biker passes her by. That just freaked me out. In addition, I have a feeling any bike related issues that ties to work (injury etc) will be used against me. So I limit my conversation to "yeah I rode a little bit".
As for golf, [puke]
I'm lucky.
I work with a fair number of motorcyclists (one even races supermoto)
My peers (VP / Director-level types) are all hitting their mid-life crises and want bikes, but their wives don't let them, so they're jealous of me.
Senior VP asked me the other day how I convinced my wife to let me ride and my answer was simple "I was well prepared and developed at least one bad habit worse than bikes to give up before I got married. In my case it was airplanes."
As for golf, it's a walk in nature. Ruined.
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on July 28, 2010, 10:36:40 PM
...As for golf, it's a walk in nature. Ruined.
-Mark Twain
Quote from: ab on July 28, 2010, 06:30:02 PM
I learned not to talk about bike related stories with co-workers quickly. They just don't get it and think it's a crazy sport. Besides, I heard one of my co-workers say that she wishes she could open the door when a biker passes her by. That just freaked me out. In addition, I have a feeling any bike related issues that ties to work (injury etc) will be used against me. So I limit my conversation to "yeah I rode a little bit".
As for golf, [puke]
i heard a similar coworker say that years ago and i directly confronted HER by saying "So you would commit MURDER just because you don't like something? That is pretty strong feeling to have about ME." She turned bright red.
I doubt it's 1:1, but I have noticed the following
Drives {Toyota Sienna|Honda Odessey} eq Hates Motorcyclists.
This pretty well sums up how I feel about golf:
Falling Down: "Golfing" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuT12_bPla8#normal)
;D
Guess I'm lucky. My manager bought a hyper motard 1100s and a multistrada 1200s from The same dealer I bought my 696 from. One of the other supervisors on my team rides and builds Honda choppers, and one of the guys I manage rides and builds sportster choppers.
Couple riders in my office, one guy has a Triumph Sprint and the other has a Fat Boy but used to own a Paso years ago.
Quote from: SacDuc on July 29, 2010, 01:09:32 PM
This pretty well sums up how I feel about golf:
Falling Down: "Golfing" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuT12_bPla8#normal)
;D
Hahahah I love it, so accurate about my feelings.
Quote from: SacDuc on July 29, 2010, 01:09:32 PM
This pretty well sums up how I feel about golf:
Falling Down: "Golfing" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuT12_bPla8#normal)
;D
Great movie! [thumbsup]
Several of the guys I work with ride, but ones RC51 hasn't been started in months, if not at least a full year, a CBR600RR hasn't been started in a year, at least, the big twin guys don't ride to work any more (it's too cold, it's only 70 degrees, we can't ride), another just sold his 954, one is about to buy his first bike, a CRF or YZ250, and I seem to be the only guy riding to work every day. Last week, I spent $7.00 on gas. My truck would have been $30 or $40.
I've always thought that if you can't die while doing it, it's not a real sport.
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 28, 2010, 02:00:47 PM
None of my coworkers ride. In fact, I work for one of the least ride friendly employers in this country, the United States Air Force. I can't even begin to count how many times I have had someone "senior" to me tell how much of a bad idea it was to ride a motorcycle. Well, I recently moved into a new area, and new workplace and have gotten stuck on staff duty (HOORAY!!). We were sitting through the three star's staff meeting this afternoon when the conversation topic changed to the dreaded 101 critical days of summer, which we are halfway through. Well, turns out some one had commissioned a research project to determine the most likely way for other service members to punch that big ticket, and what do you suppose the result was? That's right, motorcycles. At this point, said three star looks around the room and states "I sure hope I don't have anyone on my staff who rides motorcycles. Does anyone here ride?". Two people turn and look straight at me, so I tell him that I do, knowing what is about to come. His response didn't surprise, nor disappoint. He looks me dead in the eye and says "Son, I want you to give that up before you hurt yourself". I thanked him for his concern and waved at him later as I got on the bike and rode home.
So yea... I love my job...
As a Marine I almost feel your pain. I mean, really, we still have the war in Afghanistan to keep our casualty numbers high enough to cover the motorcycles, but we still have the required training and all of the other BS. My Marines love that I ride, or maybe they just like seeing the boss get soaked in the afternoon thunderstorms. A bunch of people I work with ride. I even convinced one of the guys I was in Iraq with to get a Ducati with the money from his next deployment. Regardless, it seems like the Air Force needs something to busy itself with. If you are interested I'm sure there are a few FOBs in Afghanistan you all could run security for if you were really interested. ;D
Quote from: FastAndLight on July 30, 2010, 03:25:16 PM
Regardless, it seems like the Air Force needs something to busy itself with. If you are interested I'm sure there are a few FOBs in Afghanistan you all could run security for if you were really interested. ;D
Let's not play that game, ok? There is a pretty good chance my boots are a touch dirtier than yours... [roll]
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 31, 2010, 02:48:37 AM
Let's not play that game, ok? There is a pretty good chance my boots are a touch dirtier than yours... [roll]
I'm not getting into a dick measuring contest here, I was speaking on the service levels.
Statistics from last year for both Iraq and Afghanistan:
The Marine Corps (including the Reserves) makes up 10.8% of the total DOD force, but experienced 23.3% (867) of the combat related deaths.
The Air Force (including Air National Guard and Reserves) comprises 21.5% of the total DOD force, and experienced 1.1% (40) of the total casualties.
Yea, I'll give you that. Statistically speaking, AF members normally stay well within the wire and enjoy the comforts of their tasty frozen latte.
I don't fall within that statistic. [evil]
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 31, 2010, 03:42:04 AM
Yea, I'll give you that. Statistically speaking, AF members normally stay well within the wire and enjoy the comforts of their tasty frozen latte.
I don't fall within that statistic. [evil]
Mmmm lattes. Anyway, one of my best friends married a PJ, I know some of you have your fun. [thumbsup]