I was riding for about 2 hours, when I notice
the gas light came on and then it died. Not sure if it's related. Now the oil light is on and the gas light. When I hit the start button it clicks and the gas light goes away, but it does not start. Fellow jap bike stop to help push start pop the clutch, but it start for a bit and died. On the side of the road now, need help. Boston area, 832-283-2376 henry
you ran out of fuel
i mean not trying to be mean but sounds like you need fuel
with a carb bike, switch to the reserve
with a FI bike... the system needs to pressure itself again even after you add fuel
anyone else with input?
I can def try that, but for me when the light comes on, there's, about 22 miles left. I think my s4rs is a fuel injected. I'll call someone to bring me fuel, just in case, other ideas? Thanks btw. :)
Vapor lock? It generally doesn't happen with a fuel injected bike but if you were running hot and ran low on fuel....maybe.
ok for sure you're FI
2 hrs on 1 tank of fuel sounds long to me.
let us know if the fuel helps.
Correction, oil light and check engine light are on, a click noise sounds when I hit start. :(
Quote from: AfroStar on August 28, 2010, 01:12:52 PM
Correction, oil light and check engine light are on, a click noise sounds when I hit start. :(
Do you hear the fuel pump cycle when you turn the key on?
Can you get a jump start?
I'd put fuel in also. Fuel senders fail all the time.
Quote from: AfroStar on August 28, 2010, 01:12:52 PM
Correction, oil light and check engine light are on, a click noise sounds when I hit start. :(
oh more serious then
did it just die? no serious wierd noises right? can you see your timing belts?
how new is your battery? I've read when they are weak the bike can die. does your bike show you voltage?
you have oil in it? check for leaks and the sight glass.
probably better you call for a flatbed instead of trying to diagnose on the side of the road.
there are local guys in MA, (I'm in germany so no help)
If it isn't turning, you might need jumper cables from another vehicle. Bad battery?
When my bike runs out of fuel, I lean it over as far as I can hold it for 10-20 seconds with the ignition on. That makes the low fuel sensor think there's gas and will allow fire up. Your tank is not empty when the bike stops, it shuts down to avoid damage by too much air.
isn't there a concern about jumping from a car though?!
hey like to help more, but it's late here. Good luck. there are tons of way smarter guys than me on here to help
that Humorless ;D guy's is one of them who I think is closer to you.
Thanks Raux, when I turn the key, there is noise cycling from the bottom of the tank. Jumping the bike sound good too. I can't see my belts. Getting dark, and phone almot out of battery, friends gps can't locate me, what else can go wrong?
Quote from: AfroStar on August 28, 2010, 01:30:36 PM
Thanks Raux, when I turn the key, there is noise cycling from the bottom of the tank. Jumping the bike sound good too. I can't see my belts. Getting dark, and phone almot out of battery, friends gps can't locate me, what else can go wrong?
Put gas in and jump the bike with the car shut off.
Make certain you don't reverse the connections. Red to red...black to black.
Can you receive pms on your phone?
Ok, friend got lost, several thug looking dude, ask if I need help, I turned them down, reservation I'm in is next to a hood. Ex officer stopped by and called and gave my friend directions,I have limited knowledge of the area.. Thanks goodness. Ok, got gas, and did not work. Going to eat and gather my bearings. Charge my phone and research on the net. Sure thing text me. I probably won't do much tonight since its dark. I parked the bike at a well lit intersection hoping nobody come by with a pick up and jack my bike. Monsters are not big in the hood, that may be a good thing. Thanks dudes!
Quote from: AfroStar on August 28, 2010, 04:07:30 PM
Ok, friend got lost, several thug looking dude, ask if I need help, I turned them down, reservation I'm in is next to a hood. Ex officer stopped by and called and gave my friend directions,I have limited knowledge of the area.. Thanks goodness. Ok, got gas, and did not work. Going to eat and gather my bearings. Charge my phone and research on the net. Sure thing text me. I probably won't do much tonight since its dark. I parked the bike at a well lit intersection hoping nobody come by with a pick up and jack my bike. Monsters are not big in the hood, that may be a good thing. Thanks dudes!
Text?
;D
Not likely bro. ;)
Did something really bad go through the gas and kill the bike? Like water? Maybe the CEL was from the O2 sensor getting fouled.
Note: the tanks is new tank replaced due to the warping issue.
If possible consult your owner's manual.
It will identify why certain warning lights are lit up.
Also has some trouble shooting advice.
May be this thread should be moved to " TECH. "
Dolph :)
Update: jump the bike with a car, it started! Left it to charge for about 5 min. Rode off, about 1/4 mile check engine came on and bike started to putter and died. Had a friend followed me and we jumped it again, and again it died again after a short trip. Could it be the alternator? Fino, I moved the bike and now its on River St. And rt 28 south. Oil is between the min, max line, just bit on the dark side. I will get a new battery soon. I am afraid that it might be something else. Ideas?
Glad you're safe...
time to move this to tech.
Quote from: AfroStar on August 29, 2010, 08:38:04 AM
....> I am afraid that it might be something else. Ideas? <......
Sounds like the regulator/rectifier.
Have a look at the wires coming out it ...... do they look burnt?
If not check connections in electrical system ..... al connected and clean?
Check the side stand cut out switch ..... anything loose or broken?
Sounds like you are not charging or undercharging. If you put a volt meter across the battery you should read 13.5 - 14.5 volts. Less means you have a problem. First check the 30 amp fuse near the fuse box under the seat. Then locate the three heavy yellow wires coming from your stator through the alternator cover. Follow them up and you will come to a connector. This is where the stator connects to the regulator. Make sure the connection is clean and tight with no signs of overheating.
If all is good so far you need to do more diagnosis. To save work here is a great link:
http://www.electrosport.com/technical-resources/diagnosis-center/fault-finding-guide (http://www.electrosport.com/technical-resources/diagnosis-center/fault-finding-guide)
Great feedback,
I think I believe its the Regulator, good stuff, Thanks. I'm at work right now, and debating to buy a new battery or not. I know I might need to buy a new regulator, all issues points there, but I just want to get the bike home. My battery is on a tender since last night, and would this be enough charge to ride my baby home, 3.6 miles. I unplugged the headlight to conserve battery life. I will check the wires for burn scars and check the fuse as well when see my Baby after work.
definetly sounds like a dead battery to me, had it happen before.
thanks guys, the charged battery got the bike home. Now that the bike is home, I can take my time to either replace the regulator or the battery. [beer]
It should be easy to see if the battery is being charged by observing the headlight: let the bike idle and then rev it up to about 3k the lights should get brighter (and then gradually dim down again).
A tester is more accurate, but this is a simple way to check and something anyone can do to avoid ending up stranded on the side of the road.
How about the ECU ground wire? If that is loose, the bike will sputter and die.
I think it's on the right side, under the ECU bolted to the battery tray.