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Title: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: DarkMonster620 on September 07, 2010, 03:03:52 PM http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2010/September/sep0710-Marshalls-may-face-manslaughter-charges-over-Shoya-Tomizawa-death/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2010/September/sep0710-Marshalls-may-face-manslaughter-charges-over-Shoya-Tomizawa-death/)
Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: fastwin on September 07, 2010, 03:43:38 PM It may be Italian law but I sure don't like the sound of this. Corner/track workers and course marshals? Why? Because they had the "doctor" signs up side down? I don't like "dog piling" when it comes to tragedies. Hopefully for the sake of those that helped Shoya this will go away quickly.
Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: DarkMonster620 on September 07, 2010, 04:01:37 PM Hey I just posted the link and don't like also ...
Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: Speeddog on September 07, 2010, 05:03:28 PM Same thing happened when Ayrton Senna died.
Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: fastwin on September 07, 2010, 05:12:19 PM Hey I just posted the link and don't like also ... I'm hip to that. Nothing likeable in that story. :PTitle: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: Speeddog on September 07, 2010, 06:41:55 PM I don't recall exactly how long it took for the legal wrangling to get sorted after Senna's crash, but IIRC it was 2 years or so.
Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: derby on September 07, 2010, 07:00:30 PM I don't recall exactly how long it took for the legal wrangling to get sorted after Senna's crash, but IIRC it was 2 years or so. three... Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: Speeddog on September 07, 2010, 07:04:12 PM three... Cripes. :P Whatever your feeling on whether the legal deal is right or wrong, it's just how it is done in Italy. Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: kopfjäger on September 07, 2010, 07:09:37 PM Same thing happened when Ayrton Senna died. I don't recall exactly how long it took for the legal wrangling to get sorted after Senna's crash, but IIRC it was 2 years or so. I guess you didn't bother to read the OP. ;) Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: Speeddog on September 07, 2010, 07:39:20 PM That'd be too easy. :P
Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: DarkMonster620 on September 08, 2010, 04:19:43 AM Now this,
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Press+Conference+Race+Direction+Shoya+Tomizawa (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Press+Conference+Race+Direction+Shoya+Tomizawa) Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: gm2 on September 08, 2010, 07:43:58 AM Whatever your feeling on whether the legal deal is right or wrong, it's just how it is done in Italy. ...ask Amanda Knox. Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: ducatiz on September 08, 2010, 08:37:40 AM The Amanda Knox case was murder. "Manslaughter" in Italy has a greater range of actions on the part of the accused that qualify a person to be charged.
For instance, under Italian law, if a person has a duty to act on behalf of another (which the marshalls do) and do so negligently, it is criminal. In the USA, this would be a civil case with the marshalls being sued by the family for wrongful death, but in Italy this is a criminal case. They could go to jail for 5-7 years. In American law, there are few instances where a person has a duty to act to assist another outside of contractual or familial relationships (i.e. the racer has contracted with the racetrack, thus the racetrack must act or a parent must act on behalf of their child). But rarely are these criminal in nature when they come up. European law is very different in these areas. Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: Triple J on September 08, 2010, 09:05:08 AM eh...I think gm2 just meant that their system is make the beast with two backsed up in general. ;D
Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: gm2 on September 08, 2010, 10:06:30 AM eh...I think gm2 just meant that their system is make the beast with two backsed up in general. ;D [thumbsup] Title: Re: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death Post by: duccarlos on September 08, 2010, 02:05:31 PM Their legal system is like their cars <bad italian accent>if you make the beast with two backs up, I kill you</bad italian accent>
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