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Author Topic: Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death  (Read 3433 times)
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« on: September 07, 2010, 03:03:52 PM »
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2010/September/sep0710-Marshalls-may-face-manslaughter-charges-over-Shoya-Tomizawa-death/
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 03:43:38 PM »
It may be Italian law but I sure don't like the sound of this. Corner/track workers and course marshals? Why? Because they had the "doctor" signs up side down? I don't like "dog piling" when it comes to tragedies. Hopefully for the sake of those that helped Shoya this will go away quickly.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 04:01:37 PM »
Hey I just posted the link and don't like also ...
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 05:03:28 PM »
Same thing happened when Ayrton Senna died.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 05:12:19 PM »
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on September 07, 2010, 04:01:37 PM
Hey I just posted the link and don't like also ...
I'm hip to that. Nothing likeable in that story. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 06:41:55 PM »
I don't recall exactly how long it took for the legal wrangling to get sorted after Senna's crash, but IIRC it was 2 years or so.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 07:00:30 PM »
Quote from: Speeddog on September 07, 2010, 06:41:55 PM
I don't recall exactly how long it took for the legal wrangling to get sorted after Senna's crash, but IIRC it was 2 years or so.

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 07:04:12 PM »
Quote from: derby on September 07, 2010, 07:00:30 PM
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Whatever your feeling on whether the legal deal is right or wrong, it's just how it is done in Italy.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 07:09:37 PM »
Quote from: Speeddog on September 07, 2010, 05:03:28 PM
Same thing happened when Ayrton Senna died.

Quote from: Speeddog on September 07, 2010, 06:41:55 PM
I don't recall exactly how long it took for the legal wrangling to get sorted after Senna's crash, but IIRC it was 2 years or so.

I guess you didn't bother to read the OP.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2010, 07:39:20 PM »
That'd be too easy.  Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 04:19:43 AM »
Now this,
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Press+Conference+Race+Direction+Shoya+Tomizawa
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 07:43:58 AM »
Quote from: Speeddog on September 07, 2010, 07:04:12 PM
Whatever your feeling on whether the legal deal is right or wrong, it's just how it is done in Italy.

...ask Amanda Knox.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 08:37:40 AM »
The Amanda Knox case was murder.  "Manslaughter" in Italy has a greater range of actions on the part of the accused that qualify a person to be charged.

For instance, under Italian law, if a person has a duty to act on behalf of another (which the marshalls do) and do so negligently, it is criminal.  In the USA, this would be a civil case with the marshalls being sued by the family for wrongful death, but in Italy this is a criminal case.  They could go to jail for 5-7 years.

In American law, there are few instances where a person has a duty to act to assist another outside of contractual or familial relationships (i.e. the racer has contracted with the racetrack, thus the racetrack must act or a parent must act on behalf of their child).  But rarely are these criminal in nature when they come up.  European law is very different in these areas.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 09:05:08 AM »
eh...I think gm2 just meant that their system is make the beast with two backsed up in general.   Grin
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 10:06:30 AM »
Quote from: Triple J on September 08, 2010, 09:05:08 AM
eh...I think gm2 just meant that their system is make the beast with two backsed up in general.   Grin

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