So I was at my local dealer yesterday and the sales manager told me Ducati is holding another Monster Challenge. ANyone else heard anything about this?
queue complaints about ducati exploiting an dstealing ideas from their customers in 3.... 2.... 1....
I haven't seen Ducati implement anything cool, to me anyway, from the Monster Challenge yet. Just my opinion of course. ;D
Quote from: muskrat on October 02, 2010, 01:02:28 PM
I haven't seen Ducati implement anything cool, to me anyway, from the Monster Challenge yet. Just my opinion of course. ;D
I'm still waiting for the gas mask to show up the the DP catalog. [laugh]
Last thing I heard from them, 2yrs ago was they, DNA wanted the local DOC's to run their own.
Quote from: derby on October 02, 2010, 12:58:48 PM
queue complaints about ducati exploiting an dstealing ideas from their customers in 3.... 2.... 1....
To be honest Ducati were to steal ideas from the winners from the Ducati Monster Challenges then Ducati would have some of the best looking bikes on the road and nobody would complain that the new models look better and better.
So to those naysayers I say let ducati snatch up some good ideas and make the ducati line better than it can be.
Talk to Duck-Stew.
I've seen some of his ideas implemented in some shape or form on the Monsters.
FTR, they had to be pointed out to me as I don't really have an eye for that sort of thing...
It's going to be different than the previous Monster Challenge. Not sure if we are supposed to talk about it yet though?
Quote from: desmoworks on October 02, 2010, 04:00:47 PM
It's going to be different than the previous Monster Challenge. Not sure if we are supposed to talk about it yet though?
Will they pull the franchise if you do? [evil]
as long as its more along the lines of the original challenge.....
not that paint scheme thing again. [thumbsdown]
Quote from: desmoworks on October 02, 2010, 04:00:47 PM
It's going to be different than the previous Monster Challenge. Not sure if we are supposed to talk about it yet though?
Will they have 2 classes. One for Monsters and a 2nd for that thing they are selling now? :D
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 02, 2010, 04:32:57 PM
Will they have 2 classes. One for Monsters and a 2nd for that thing they are selling now? :D
Ooh, sick burn!
*high five*
So you're saying my rebuild wouldn't fly in the Monster challenge?
I've heard things like this before from supposed 'people in the know'... Can anyone confirm?
And yes, I do believe Ducati borrowed ideas from the contestants to put into production of the bikes, but honestly... For what other purpose could they have put the show on? I doubt it was altruistic....
Quote from: Duck-Stew on October 03, 2010, 06:03:32 AM
And yes, I do believe Ducati borrowed ideas from the contestants to put into production of the bikes, but honestly... For what other purpose could they have put the show on? I doubt it was altruistic....
Ideas, concepts, new model and even names! But one should consider it a compliment to be honest -- at least I do in my situation and the discussion over the years with folks in Italy. If you can design/build something so cool that it influences Ducati to do something similiar -- then at least it means they are listening to their owners and what some of us are doing in the aftermarket for customer projects or ourselves.
Hopefully there is a bit of lead time before events dates are held. DNA is infamous for announcing something with less than 60-90 days lead time -- and thus a lot of enthusiasts don't have their Ducati's finished or last minute rushes are required to make entry.
i for one expect Ducati to be making the subframes red for the red main frame bikes soon ;)
Quote from: MotoCreations on October 03, 2010, 10:29:11 AM
Ideas, concepts, new model and even names! But one should consider it a compliment to be honest -- at least I do in my situation and the discussion over the years with folks in Italy. If you can design/build something so cool that it influences Ducati to do something similiar -- then at least it means they are listening to their owners and what some of us are doing in the aftermarket for customer projects or ourselves.
Hopefully there is a bit of lead time before events dates are held. DNA is infamous for announcing something with less than 60-90 days lead time -- and thus a lot of enthusiasts don't have their Ducati's finished or last minute rushes are required to make entry.
before there was a monster challenge when I went to the first WDW in 1998 I saw more variations of true custom Monsters than I have seen since. It was still early in the customization of this model and there were a ton of home spun designs. Many of these designs I saw come into play in later years. Like Mark said, be flattered... I was told that my personal naked 996 I built in 2001 was a topic of design study in Italy but there were too far along with the new S4R due to be released in 2003 to switch but in a few more years they are considering a more aggressive naked superbike or streetfighter. http://www.ducatiseattle.com/slide_shows/996monster/01.jpg] [url]http://www.ducatiseattle.com/slide_shows/996monster/01.jpg (http://[url)[/url]
Consumers designs will always have some influence on future models, thank goodness they pay attention!
The limitations most seem to forget about are the road going regulations that exist in all Countries. Catalytic converters, turn indicator sizes, reflectors, fender coverage, license plate height and location.. it all has to be added to a design concept if they go forward into production.. Often the first thing everyone peels off to create their vision [clap]
I can't share any details regarding a future challenge but to answer the "yank your franchise" question, as partners with Ducati we
all agreed and signed a NDA to not discuss what they shared with us until we were given clearance.
Quote from: Raux on October 03, 2010, 11:09:00 AM
i for one expect Ducati to be making the subframes red for the red main frame bikes soon ;)
every Duc should have a RED FRAME option IMO.