[roll] Revisions of the 1100 appear to be untrue.
2011 looks the same except for rear subframe black out like the 796 and ABS standard.
The "S" has been dropped. [thumbsdown]
Exhaust appears to be the same. ???
Open linky below.
http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/10/free-abs-on-2011-ducati-monster-796-and-1100/ (http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/10/free-abs-on-2011-ducati-monster-796-and-1100/)
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43824.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43824.0)
[thumbsdown]
the ducatinewstoday link you referenced is quite a bit older than what the sales guy was telling "howiroll" in that other thread.
We'll just have to wait and see...
I think that article is based on the Ducati Official website which said "
Enhanced comfort and safety, in addition to new colour schemes, headline the main updates to Ducati's naked icon, the Monster. The entry level 696 gets new 43mm Marzocchi forks and enhanced ergonomics, including 20mm higher handlebars and a new rear sub-frame designed to accept the user-friendly passenger grab-rail kit available as a Ducati Performance accessory. The Monster 696 presents the two new colour schemes of "dark stealth" and "stone white", perfectly complementing the new matte chrome handlebar finish. The Monster 796, which was launched in April 2010 as an early entry model year 2011, also adopts Marzocchi front suspension and continues its incredible success. Along with the Monster 1100, the 696 and 796 complete the 2011 range, confirming the family's status as a style and design icon, backed-up by 17 years of Ducati Monster heritage.
"
So, no 1100 S, new subframe... no other changes were announced.
what I said :-)
somehow I have a feeling the info is about the 2012 monster not the 2011
in 2012, the new monster design will be 3-4 years old. time for a refresh.
Information I received from my "source" is what he personally saw in the Ducati Dealer conference that was held a few weeks ago. He confirmed new engine, exhaust and ABS as part of the base package. Much like the S*R series where the exhaust was different, shotgun, compared to the 620/695. He did not mention anything about the S model.
Are the new 696 forks black and adjustable? If so, I want them!
Sometimes there are mid year changes to a model. It is certainly possible Ducati may want to reduce some parts before making as change.
Bring back the S4Rs !
Dolph (http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn198/DoubleEagle_photo/ride.gif)
Quote from: DoubleEagle on October 28, 2010, 09:50:05 PM
Bring back the S4Rs !
Dolph (http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn198/DoubleEagle_photo/ride.gif)
Or make an easy replacement,,, an 848 evo engined streetfighter... [bow_down]
Now that would really ring my bell... [moto]
[coffee]
A "smaller" Streetfighter would be very cool.
a SF with the 848 engine colored like the 848 dark may change my mind on which bike I'm buying... I'd like to hear about the traction control rumor for monsters. If I need to wait till midyear 2011 or even 2012 to purchase I may wait. If I can get TC and ABS on a monster that would be SWEET.
I don't know about the TC. I would think that the SBK's would get it before the Monster. I agree that it would be sweet.
personally, i can't see traction control being put on the 2v. They are all using the Siemens computers and so far no bike with the Siemens has TC. only the Marelli and Mitsubishi ECUs have TC so far.
I see them adding this eventually, but still quite a few years away.
The OP might want to check their sources.
http://www.ducati.com/bikes/monster/1100__evo_/index.do (http://www.ducati.com/bikes/monster/1100__evo_/index.do)
well it certainly was a surprise to see the diavel exhaust and new rearsets.
I had heard about the exhaust and I assumed new rearsets because of it. I didn't know it would be the Diavel exhaust, just knew it was shotgun style. I was more surprised with the TC.
The specs show the EVO has a wet clutch. hmmmm
I hope its a typo, cause I for one like the dry clutch on a Ducati.
Wet clutch on pretty much all new models except teh 1198 and HM.
I kept waiting for Nate to lock this thread because I thought it was about politics! [laugh]
Rearsets... yes.
Exhaust... no.
Wet clutch... wont the gerbils that make it go around drown? ???
Quote from: Punx Clever on November 01, 2010, 04:42:01 PM
Wet clutch... wont the gerbils that make it go around drown? ???
I think it was Richard Gere who told me than gerbils can hold their breath for longer than you'd think.
Quote from: Punx CleverRearsets... yes.
Yes, please!
Quote from: Punx CleverExhaust... no.
Who keeps that stock anyway? :)
Quote from: Punx CleverWet clutch... wont the gerbils that make it go around drown? ???
Friendlier clutch on a flagship bike? I may be saving a bit longer than I planned cause I think this bike is HOT.
Adjustable suspension: Check
Black on Black: Check
Sexy 1100 wheels: Check
Traction control: Check
ABS: Check
No more unipeg ugliness: Check
Dream bike: Could be...
Dream bike if you can use the 848 dry clutch conversion. I want to see it with Termis. I'm hoping they'll be able to do the shotguns slightly higher, like the S*R.
The option of upgrading to a dry clutch would be pretty nice. I'm a fan of minimal exhausts like Boom Tubes and ExBoxs, should be no problem there.
Quote from: ahks on November 02, 2010, 08:10:06 AM
The option of upgrading to a dry clutch would be pretty nice. I'm a fan of minimal exhausts like Boom Tubes and ExBoxs, should be no problem there.
I currently have boomtubes on my Monster. Love them. I want to see what Termis can come up with.
Quote from: duccarlos on November 02, 2010, 08:35:19 AM
I currently have boomtubes on my Monster. Love them. I want to see what Termis can come up with.
+1, I'm also curious where they will go from this base.
I expect the answer is remarkably close, if not identical to the offering on the diavel. It wouldn't hurt to be able to split the stock for slipons from a financial perspective, and the mounting/placement is very similar. Even if they don't fit eachother, I wouldn't expect a radically different design.
I find it kind of funny that some folks get so worked up about traction control and ABS on a Monster. It's been my experience that while in one sense it might be worthwhile but more on the other hand most riders don't ride hard enough to actually benefit from it. Well, maybe if they are sort of doofusses they might. But otherwise..... ? ? ?
I would love to have ABS on my monster. Traction control... eh, I just want a slipper for that.
Think about it, cruising along on the expressway and all of a sudden some jackwagon cuts you off. Instead of worrying about applying your breaks in a controlled fashion, you can just grab a handful and let the computer sort it out. Yeah, a good rider can do it without a second thought, but there is always that one time you are distracted for whatever reason. I've heard a lot of support from the police who switched to BMW in Albaq in reference to the ABS system on those bikes.
my opinion?
ANYTHING that can increase your life expectancy or at least diminish risk of serious injury, without taking all the fun away?, while on a motorcycle?, is OK in my book :) like helmets... to me wearing one or not doesn't change my enjoyment of the ride, unless it's cold outside :D so why wouldn't I wear one? besides it being the law in MI... If i really wanted to enjoy a ride without a helmet OH is only 40minute ride down I-75 for me.
For my s/o's added piece of mind I'll wait for ABS+TC... beside it's a great excuse to get an 1100 [evil]
Quote from: mac900 on November 03, 2010, 12:36:30 AMmost riders don't ride hard enough to actually benefit from it.
Every rider will benefit from ABS. Every single one.
Quote from: poseur on November 03, 2010, 08:22:31 AM
Every rider will benefit from ABS. Every single one.
That's a direct bit of mistruth.
Quote from: poseur on November 03, 2010, 08:22:31 AM
Every rider will benefit from ABS. Every single one.
+1 Saw all the test videos where they had pro riders try to out break the system. I don't care about your ego, it will stop quicker than not having it.
My 1100s has ABS and it has cliked in a few times.
I can't say that it saved my life, but its amazing how well it works.
The best of riders are subject to an occasional brain fart or random slick spot. This is when ABS comes into play. Unfortunately, the already too small fuel tank gets even smaller.
Quote from: duccarlos on November 03, 2010, 08:53:02 AM
+1 Saw all the test videos where they had pro riders try to out break the system. I don't care about your ego, it will stop quicker than not having it.
ABS is not helpful in some places.
Every rider on the street will benefit from ABS under most riding conditions.
On a track (I know, it's not a race bike, just saying), I haven't seen any statistics to show faster laptimes with ABS...but i have seen slower.
The "studies" of ABS are, to my knoweldge, not blind studies in the slightest bit. I won't say they're wrong, I just know the human tendency to prove themselves right.
I'm curious about the price.
ABS and DTC are now considered "Standard"
An M1100s without abs was what? MSRP $13,995
BUT
The monster 1100 and 796 had the same price as the HM 1100evo and 796...
Is this new monster gonna be priced @ 12k like the previous 1100? I can most certainly see them bumping the price up a bit... but i'm gonna keep my fingers crossed...
Quote from: mattc7 on November 03, 2010, 12:51:29 PM
ABS is not helpful in some places.
Every rider on the street will benefit from ABS under most riding conditions.
On a track (I know, it's not a race bike, just saying), I haven't seen any statistics to show faster laptimes with ABS...but i have seen slower.
The "studies" of ABS are, to my knoweldge, not blind studies in the slightest bit. I won't say they're wrong, I just know the human tendency to prove themselves right.
"Studies":
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/videos/2010/april/apr0710-video-ducati-monster-1100-abs-test/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/videos/2010/april/apr0710-video-ducati-monster-1100-abs-test/)
Quote from: duccarlos on November 03, 2010, 01:25:13 PM
"Studies":
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/videos/2010/april/apr0710-video-ducati-monster-1100-abs-test/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/videos/2010/april/apr0710-video-ducati-monster-1100-abs-test/)
You have proved my point with this.
Tires - Not identical.
Rider - Knows which is which
Bikes - Not identical
Tire age - Not identical
My main point here, is that these studies aren't really valid given the variables. I haven't ever said that ABS wasn't valuable, or that it was worse than non for most riders on the street. I'm just saying that these aren't properly tested, and as such are barely worth the time spent putting them together.
I wont argue that it can reduce emergency stopping time, and that it is an extra safety cushion. I just want proper studies done to the effect. The closest to a full study done is the fact that bikes with abs are almost 40% less likely to be involved in a fatal crash than ones without. However, that has to do alot with the number of bikes thereby equipped, and the reasons for the incidents, which go unpublished.
Still, unproven in normal use on track. The non-linear feel is not conducive to track use.
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Every rider will benefit from ABS. Every single one.
there exists a rider, who will not benefit. On track the feel is gone. It hinders most racers (unless they're about to overbrake the front end). [at least] Some Racers do not benefit from ABS .
All racers are riders.
Therefore, there are at least some riders who will not benefit from ABS.
I <3 internet arguing...
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Didn't we go through the same argument when cars were originally fitted with ABS? ABS is mostly useful for day to day use. Rarely do you come to a complete stop when on a track. The only time it would be useful on the track would be going from a very high speed section, like a straight, to a very low speed turn. In this case, it would help you outbrake as long as you use a combo of engine/normal braking. In any other section, it would not be a hindrance or an advantage.
Now, to the practical point of the fact that the Monster is a track bike only in times that the rider does not have any other option. This bike in no way has been designed to be used as a dedicated track bike. So, ABS is the proper application for what the bike was designed for, the street.
Quote from: duccarlos on November 03, 2010, 02:40:10 PM
Didn't we go through the same argument when cars were originally fitted with ABS? ABS is mostly useful for day to day use. Rarely do you come to a complete stop when on a track. The only time it would be useful on the track would be going from a very high speed section, like a straight, to a very low speed turn. In this case, it would help you outbrake as long as you use a combo of engine/normal braking. In any other section, it would not be a hindrance or an advantage.
Now, to the practical point of the fact that the Monster is a track bike only in times that the rider does not have any other option. This bike in no way has been designed to be used as a dedicated track bike. So, ABS is the proper application for what the bike was designed for, the street.
I never argued either of these points, simply stating it won't always benefit everyone, except that on track it can be a hindrance. If it kicks in when not needed, which some systems do on occasion. Also, more weight, and a serious pain to bleed.
Also, explaining the flaw in the studies.
That's all I'm not saying the findings are wrong, I'm just saying they're improperly done
Quote from: mattc7 on November 03, 2010, 03:34:24 PM
I never argued either of these points, simply stating it won't always benefit everyone, except that on track it can be a hindrance. If it kicks in when not needed, which some systems do on occasion. Also, more weight, and a serious pain to bleed.
Also, explaining the flaw in the studies.
That's all I'm not saying the findings are wrong, I'm just saying they're improperly done
You are a little confused, ABS is a safety device like airbags, crumple zones, safety glass etc.. on a car, not a riding aid / improver like launch control, traction control or what ever they are calling it.
ABS is an extremely significant safety device that will prevent many accidents or at least lessen injuries during those times when we are all caught off guard.
I GOTTA get in on this internets cockfight.
The old guys will fight abs "I don't need it I'm pro, experience is better. I'm better at braking without it."
Well guess what, you're wrong. Head to head comparison with identical hardware an ABS equipped bike will ALWAYS out brake a non-abs equivalent.
You can literally GORILLA the SHIT out of the brake lever and not go down. This allows you to take advantage of ALL the braking power your bike has to offer. There is no progressive braking, waiting to feel that point of no return when the front wheel locks, none of that.
Just grab a fistful of brake and try not to superman over the bars.
Quote from: danaid on November 03, 2010, 06:41:46 PM
You are a little confused, ABS is a safety device like airbags, crumple zones, safety glass etc.. on a car, not a riding aid / improver like launch control, traction control or what ever they are calling it.
ABS is an extremely significant safety device that will prevent many accidents or at least lessen injuries during those times when we are all caught off guard.
What am I confused about? I never said it was bad. I never said it wasn't a valuable safety device in street use. I never said it wouldn't help out. I'm saying it limits feel for racers.
The previous poster said "every rider". It's not true.
99% of real world riders in real world conditions, it is true.
I was simply stating that his use of every rider was incorrect.
I also said that the test wasn't done properly. I never argued the results. I simply explained that a side-by-side comparison is stupid, if you're trying to only account for 1 particular feature. You need to get rid of variables for a real scientific test. There are many variables involved in the posted video. The results are correct ( and i haven't argued them). The test is flawed.
Quote from: mattc7 on November 03, 2010, 03:34:24 PM
I never argued either of these points, simply stating it won't always benefit everyone, except that on track it can be a hindrance. If it kicks in when not needed, which some systems do on occasion. Also, more weight, and a serious pain to bleed.
Also, explaining the flaw in the studies.
That's all I'm not saying the findings are wrong, I'm just saying they're improperly done
i have to agree with him on one point the OP did say "everyone".
This poster is pointing out that NOT EVERYONE namely professional racers and track racing on a dry day with very good riders, will not benefit from ABS.
This poster is merely pointing out to the OP that his "absolute" assertion that EVERYONE will benefit from ABS is a FALSE statement, because it is.
The OP should have said "practically EVERY street rider will benefit from ABS", which would exclude racing on a closed course or track days.
You guys are arguing semantics here. The Poster above obviously realizes what he is saying and is basically f-ing with the OP because he doesn't like the "absolute" assertion the OP is saying as if it is factual which ABS has been proven it can be beaten by expert level racers on dry pavement in good conditions.
at the same time the OP is arguing back because he won't budge at all by saying "ok maybe pros and expert level track racers are better than ABS on a clean track on a dry day in good conditions" because then his EVERYONE statement would be wrong. [laugh] [laugh]
Afterall why doesn't motogp have ABS? well maybe its a rule thing but you get the idea. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: mattc7 on November 03, 2010, 07:03:19 PM
What am I confused about? I never said it was bad. I never said it wasn't a valuable safety device in street use. I never said it wouldn't help out. I'm saying it limits feel for racers.
The previous poster said "every rider". It's not true.
99% of real world riders in real world conditions, it is true.
I was simply stating that his use of every rider was incorrect.
I also said that the test wasn't done properly. I never argued the results. I simply explained that a side-by-side comparison is stupid, if you're trying to only account for 1 particular feature. You need to get rid of variables for a real scientific test. There are many variables involved in the posted video. The results are correct ( and i haven't argued them). The test is flawed.
You are missing the entire point of the video that is ABS lessens the stopping distance and keeps the bike under control when used in a panic braking event vs the same bike without.
You are confused about ABS being used for the racers, it shouldn't be used for racers, it should be turned off at the track.
ABS is for when all of us, advanced riders or not, are in traffic and that suv pulls out in front of us and we have a split second to brake before we smash into the door panel. Hopefully ABS will allow us to stop or lessen our speed of impact vs. locking up the brakes and loosing control and impacting the vehicle or obstacle.
Quote from: mac900 on November 03, 2010, 12:36:30 AM
I find it kind of funny that some folks get so worked up about traction control and ABS on a Monster. It's been my experience that while in one sense it might be worthwhile but more on the other hand most riders don't ride hard enough to actually benefit from it. Well, maybe if they are sort of doofusses they might. But otherwise..... ? ? ?
Sorry, I didn't know I'd set off a small s-storm with this post. I'm a bit of a Luddite when it comes to some of this stuff. Yes, the ABS is safer when you actually have to use it. It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. If it were it's own separate option I don't know that I'd get it. If it came in a package like it does with the BMW S1000rr then I'd get it. But, boy, just wait until you have to fix a problem with it and it's out of warranty .... yadda, yadda, yadda [laugh]
Quote from: danaid on November 03, 2010, 07:38:12 PM
You are missing the entire point of the video that is ABS lessens the stopping distance and keeps the bike under control when used in a panic braking event vs the same bike without.
They aren't identical tires, bikes, etc as I mentioned. I said the conclusion of the video was correct, but the test is flawed. It's a different bike. Different tires, different suspension - and setup. I AGREE with the video, if you read my comment you would see that. I think they need to test oranges vs oranges, and not oranges vs tangerine. ZERO changes to the bike, besides ABS. The only scientifically decent method of testing it
You are confused about ABS being used for the racers, it shouldn't be used for racers, it should be turned off at the track.
ABS is for when all of us, advanced riders or not, are in traffic and that suv pulls out in front of us and we have a split second to brake before we smash into the door panel. Hopefully ABS will allow us to stop or lessen our speed of impact vs. locking up the brakes and loosing control and impacting the vehicle or obstacle.
This is what I said. The original statement was all riders. I explained at the track this is not the case. that is all.
My responses are in yellow. I think you're confused with what I have said, and what you think I am saying
Quote from: sbrguy on November 03, 2010, 07:18:32 PM
i have to agree with him on one point the OP did say "everyone".
This poster is pointing out that NOT EVERYONE namely professional racers and track racing on a dry day with very good riders, will not benefit from ABS.
This poster is merely pointing out to the OP that his "absolute" assertion that EVERYONE will benefit from ABS is a FALSE statement, because it is.
The OP should have said "practically EVERY street rider will benefit from ABS", which would exclude racing on a closed course or track days.
You guys are arguing semantics here. The Poster above obviously realizes what he is saying and is basically f-ing with the OP because he doesn't like the "absolute" assertion the OP is saying as if it is factual which ABS has been proven it can be beaten by expert level racers on dry pavement in good conditions.
at the same time the OP is arguing back because he won't budge at all by saying "ok maybe pros and expert level track racers are better than ABS on a clean track on a dry day in good conditions" because then his EVERYONE statement would be wrong. [laugh] [laugh]
Afterall why doesn't motogp have ABS? well maybe its a rule thing but you get the idea. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
This guy gets it!
Quote from: mattc7 on November 03, 2010, 12:51:29 PM
ABS is not helpful in some places.
Every rider on the street will benefit from ABS under most riding conditions.
FWIW, I agree with both of these statements.
Quote from: mattc7 on November 03, 2010, 12:51:29 PMThe "studies" of ABS are, to my knoweldge, not blind studies in the slightest bit. I won't say they're wrong, I just know the human tendency to prove themselves right.
True. But think about it: How could you have "blind" tests on ABS? Even if
everything else was
identical.... the moment you hauled on the brakes to locking(or not) point.... the moment ABS began to kick in you can feel it working. There is no way to conduct a "blind" test on ABS IMO.
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on November 03, 2010, 06:45:45 PM
The old guys will fight abs "I don't need it I'm pro, experience is better. I'm better at braking without it." Well guess what, you're wrong.
I resemble that remark [cheeky]. I'm 51 years old. I have never owned a motorcycle with ABS. I have never, ever once needed it. Yet. Does that make it of no value? Not at all. I have worn a helmet
every time I have ever ridden any motorcycle and I've never needed that either. Yet. But I understand the potential value of the helmet if things were to get out of control. Equally, I appreciate the safety potential of ABS.
Even though I am one of your "old guys" :P.
So do I wish my M1100 had been built with ABS as satndard equipment? Well yeah.... it just might come in handy one day. (Would I swap my dry clutch to get it? Hmm.... probably not :-\).
Quote from: ungeheuer on November 03, 2010, 10:46:03 PM
I resemble that remark [cheeky]. I'm 51 years old. I have never owned a motorcycle with ABS. I have never, ever once needed it. Yet. Does that make it of no value? Not at all. I have worn a helmet every time I have ever ridden any motorcycle and I've never needed that either. Yet. But I understand the potential value of the helmet if things were to get out of control. Equally, I appreciate the safety potential of ABS.
Even though I am one of your "old guys" :P.
So do I wish my M1100 had been built with ABS as satndard equipment? Well yeah.... it just might come in handy one day. (Would I swap my dry clutch to get it? Hmm.... probably not :-\).
No way my dad is 52! .. haha. No wonder you have all the cool shiny and go fast bits on your bike.. you have the time value of money advantage over me. I'm in no rush to get there though. [moto]
The helmet metaphor should resolve the arguments in this discussion. Makes perfect sense.
I guess you can continue to argue whether or not ABS is necessary in professional racing...
Quote from: duccarlos on November 03, 2010, 02:40:10 PM
Didn't we go through the same argument when cars were originally fitted with ABS? ABS is mostly useful for day to day use. Rarely do you come to a complete stop when on a track. The only time it would be useful on the track would be going from a very high speed section, like a straight, to a very low speed turn. In this case, it would help you outbrake as long as you use a combo of engine/normal braking. In any other section, it would not be a hindrance or an advantage.
Well if Formula 1 drivers used ABS (when it was allowed) then I have to concur that it was useful for cars on a track.
As for myself, the only new road bike I will buy will be equipped with ABS. I need every advantage I can get on the street.
Quote from: mattc7 on November 03, 2010, 03:34:24 PM
I never argued either of these points, simply stating it won't always benefit everyone, except that on track it can be a hindrance. If it kicks in when not needed, which some systems do on occasion. Also, more weight, and a serious pain to bleed.
Also, explaining the flaw in the studies.
That's all I'm not saying the findings are wrong, I'm just saying they're improperly done
Findings or not. If you are on track and don't want the ABS, you can just toggle it OFF !
I'm 53 and I guess I bought the best Monter 1100 built. (so far) :P
It is the ABS model 1100s.
All the bling and ABS. [drool]
As I said switch it off if you are on track.
ABS works on the street. ;)
Found this on the web
http://www.msf-usa.org/imsc/proceedings/a-green-comparisonofstoppingdistance.pdf (http://www.msf-usa.org/imsc/proceedings/a-green-comparisonofstoppingdistance.pdf)
Note that the two tables at the bottom compare average distance with ABS to the best distance without ABS. In most cases the average ABS beat out the best non ABS, and that's good enough for this rider who at 48, no longer has the reactions of a 20 year old [moto]
sorry if I did not see this in a post yet.
how much will the ABS add to the weight ?
Quote from: motoboy on November 04, 2010, 06:56:40 PM
sorry if I did not see this in a post yet.
how much will the ABS add to the weight ?
It should only add a pound or two at the most
Quote from: SA_S2R on November 04, 2010, 07:06:29 PM
It should only add a pound or two at the most
Take a dump prior to riding and it'll even out ;D
The only negative thing about ABS on our bikes is the reduced fuel capacity. The ABS module takes up room, reducing already small tank capacity to only 13.5 litres.
Quote from: duk too on November 04, 2010, 07:16:04 AM
I'm 53 and I guess I bought the best Monter 1100 built. (so far) :P
It is the ABS model 1100s.
All the bling and ABS.
Hi there Old Person [thumbsup] ;) I'm inclined to agree with Grandad here, the M1100s with ABS is the pick of the crop. If I could have ABS and keep my dry clutch I'd trade a litre of fuel tank capacity.
So... my order of desirability goes like this:
1) M1100s - ABS
2) M1100s
3) M1100 EVO (wet clutch [thumbsdown]. ABS [thumbsup]. Traction control :-\).
3) M1100 (dry clutch [thumbsup]. No ABS [thumbsdown]).