So I'm going to need to replace my rear tire very shortly. I've been toying with the idea of putting a 190/55 on but can't seem to find any real pro/con of this on the forum. Wouldn't the 190 have a better turn-in? I do like riding the bike through turns and have no issues handling the bike with the 180 on it now. Thanks.
Also, the bike is an S2R 800 with OEM wheels.
190 will slow turn in.
A 180 is the best size for a Monster with a 5.5." wheel IMO.
Quote from: humorless dp on October 29, 2010, 10:52:10 AM
190 will slow turn in.
A 180 is the best size for a Monster with a 5.5." wheel IMO.
+1
Actually, a 170 will give you faster turn in than a 180. A 190 isn't going to fit right on the rim.
People somehow think that they get more traction from a wider tire, but most riders will never reach the point where they can tell the difference in traction. You're really doing it for looks, right?
The brand and model of tire will make a bigger difference to traction than 10 mm of width anyway.
I recommend the Pirelli Angel ST as the best all around tire, by the way.
6" = 190
5.5-5.75" = 180
5.0-5.5 = 170
4.5-5.0 = 160
That's what i been goin' by for years.
I surely did not like the pilot roads i put on for my ride to vegas last year. they were great for such a high mileage ride, but they don't offer much in grip or in feedback.
i will be rockin' some supercorsas for a while, trackday takeoffs. :D
That's funny, I ran a Pilot Road 2 rear, and found plenty of grip dry and wet, but the mileage wasn't great.
Dead at 4000 :(
Well I'll stick with my 180 then. BTW, I'm running Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP front and rear and I'm almost at 7k m on them. I LOVE these tires. What a huge improvement from the crap that came stock on the bike.
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 03, 2010, 07:09:18 AM
That's funny, I ran a Pilot Road 2 rear, and found plenty of grip dry and wet, but the mileage wasn't great.
Dead at 4000 :(
make the beast with two backsin' weird. i'm talking, no wear at all after 3k mi to vegas and back, flat spotting a bit, and no grip at lean (mine are not the 2's, though). I'm at 6k and the rear is looking a bit ragged, about to change.
Quote from: hackers2r on November 03, 2010, 07:47:45 AM
Well I'll stick with my 180 then. BTW, I'm running Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP front and rear and I'm almost at 7k m on them. I LOVE these tires. What a huge improvement from the crap that came stock on the bike.
wtf. how are you getting that much life out of these tires. please post a picture of the tires at 7k!
+1!!
i'm getting less than 3,500 *good* miles out of supercorsas. They look pretty shagged after a trackday. Marty or Jeff @ AMS can get 'em done in a single trackday on the R's. And I mean absolutely done.
Here ya go:
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_YU37U1akEV4/TNIQ3MDmNBI/AAAAAAAAAE0/q5lMtcZ-jyw/s800/IMG_0518.JPG)
Mind you...I'm in Miami so I try to stay off the slab as much as possible and stick to the streets so as not to burn through the middle of them. But I don't do trackdays yet...YET
Also, I was off a bit but these are at ~6300 miles.
160-170 gives best tracking, 180 looks good when someone w no clue is looking & 190 is just f showoff/stupid.
What are your needs? ;)
Quote from: greenmonster on November 03, 2010, 07:30:26 PM
160-170 gives best tracking, 180 looks good when someone w no clue is looking & 190 is just f showoff/stupid.
What are your needs? ;)
Motogp class bikes use a 190...
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on November 03, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
Motogp class bikes use a 190...
200-210, actually. same w/ wsbk. toseland's 999RS that is in our shop has a 200.
Quote from: a m on November 03, 2010, 08:56:22 PM
200-210, actually. same w/ wsbk. toseland's 999RS that is in our shop has a 200.
I would ask if you're sure, but somehow I'm willing to bet you would know. ;D
yeah, the 999RS is nuts. The frame has removable sections so you can remove the vertical head/cyl without dropping the motor. Nothing like a production bike, yet more close to a production bike than the Yamaha WSBK version, IMO
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 03, 2010, 07:09:18 AM
That's funny, I ran a Pilot Road 2 rear, and found plenty of grip dry and wet, but the mileage wasn't great.
Dead at 4000 :(
I don't know about mileage, but I've loved all the Roads I've had on my bikes.
Quote from: a m on November 03, 2010, 04:15:35 PM
make the beast with two backsin' weird. i'm talking, no wear at all after 3k mi to vegas and back, flat spotting a bit, and no grip at lean (mine are not the 2's, though). I'm at 6k and the rear is looking a bit ragged, about to change.
That is really weird. I had a set of the original Roads on my Triumph when I took a very wet two week trip through BC and I've never had more confidence in a tire in the wet. If you just put a set on, they may be hard as rocks. Check the build date. I didn't know the original Roads were still available. (You have to be careful when you buy tires, sometimes they're old as the hills when you don't buy from high volume retailers.)
I have the Road2 on M900 and Power2CT on the Triumph I love them.
i got them when they were still current production, just before the 2's were released.
Quote from: greenmonster on November 03, 2010, 07:30:26 PM
160-170 gives best tracking, 180 looks good when someone w no clue is looking & 190 is just f showoff/stupid.
What are your needs? ;)
A lot depends on how you set up your geometry too. ;)