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(http://thekneeslider.com/images/2010/12/supermono.jpg)
Saw it. Last I checked they had not made the reserve.
That was the one I was asking Santa about. ;D
definitely cool, but not that cool[/i
60hp and 141 mph, wow! I guess a lack of mirrors and ~100lbs goes a long way in terms of top speed
WANT.....
AS OF THIS POINT...11 bids...up to $74,300 and the reserve is not met yet and there is 5 days left...
I don't so much want this bike (well not at more than $75K) as someone to build another (mass produced) bike of this ilk.
WHY WHY WHY doesn't some manufacturer build another sport single like this? [bang]
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on December 15, 2010, 09:17:12 AM
I don't so much want this bike (well not at more than $75K) as someone to build another (mass produced) bike of this ilk.
WHY WHY WHY doesn't some manufacturer build another sport single like this? [bang]
because there's only a handful of people in america (largest motorcycle market) that'll buy one (at the price it'd end up costing).
iirc, the supermono was $30k new in 1993 (that's $45k in 2010 money).
why is a supermono so desirable?
and if it was... i think KTM would be the company to make it..
You can get one made for you. Still big bucks.
http://big-diesel.blogspot.com/2009/05/supermono-very-rare-ducati-thumper.html (http://big-diesel.blogspot.com/2009/05/supermono-very-rare-ducati-thumper.html)
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2009/04/06april09_supermono/ (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2009/04/06april09_supermono/)
If Honda's new CBR250 is a single 250cc four stroke then I could see them making a larger displacement Supermono replica type bike. And being a manufacturing giant the cost could be kept down. They could snatch up a couple of the 450cc MX bikes that have been turned into road racers and use them as test mules for a street version. [thumbsup] Or screw it, just let KTM do it or Aprilla. ;D
Quote from: matt922 on December 15, 2010, 03:27:59 PM
why is a supermono so desirable?
and if it was... i think KTM would be the company to make it..
Because it is.
Because it's pretty light weight and goes like a scalded cat
because there aren't too many of them around
It's just one of those icon bikes like the 916
but better ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_Supermono (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_Supermono)
A quick look at that page shows the pictures in the ebay listing are not of the actual bike being sold.
How does a person reach a point in life where they own a motorcycle this valuable without knowing the difference between the words "correspondents" and "correspondence"?
Quote from: Monsterlover on December 15, 2010, 04:38:51 PM
A quick look at that page shows the pictures in the ebay listing are not of the actual bike being sold.
How do you know that it's not the bike in the auction that's shown on the wiki page?
I mean, there were only 67 of these things made and this is one of the more famous and better documented of them.
don't know.
just a feeling.
It's cool and all...but like someone on duc.ms said:
If Ducati had produced these for the masses it would be a forgotten poor mans' 65hp SS.
I respectfully disagree. [thumbsup] At least not with me. ;D
^^^ What he said.
Witness all the raving by the moto journos over the various KTM single cylinder street models.
I'm telling you, a decent 55-60 HP (65-70 tuned) sportbike that weighed 300 lbs would sell.
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on December 15, 2010, 10:20:38 PM
^^^ What he said.
Witness all the raving by the moto journos over the various KTM single cylinder street models.
I'm telling you, a decent 55-60 HP (65-70 tuned) sportbike that weighed 300 lbs would sell.
...especially if there was a racing series built around it. [evil]
Quote from: TAftonomos on December 15, 2010, 05:22:32 PM
It's cool and all...but like someone on duc.ms said:
If Ducati had produced these for the masses it would be a forgotten poor mans' 65hp SS.
Except that a SS weighs 50% more.
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on December 15, 2010, 09:17:12 AM
I don't so much want this bike (well not at more than $75K) as someone to build another (mass produced) bike of this ilk.
WHY WHY WHY doesn't some manufacturer build another sport single like this? [bang]
(http://toddbundy.com/599_Mono.jpg)
(http://toddbundy.com/599_Mono_2.jpg)
;)
Build it!! [clap] [popcorn]
It's cool and all...
...but I'd rather have an NCR Millona or a Pierobon F042, and spend the money I saved on trackdays.
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on December 15, 2010, 10:20:38 PM
I'm telling you, a decent 55-60 HP (65-70 tuned) sportbike that weighed 300 lbs would sell.
At what price point?
$10k or less -- yup.
$15k -- Not really.
Quote from: TAftonomos on December 15, 2010, 05:22:32 PM
It's cool and all...but like someone on duc.ms said:
If Ducati had produced these for the masses it would be a forgotten poor mans' 65hp SS.
That actually makes 75 horsepower and weighs 260 pounds. Wait........900SS of that era....80 hp, 425 pounds.....let's see.....
Supermono....3.5 pounds per horse
SS....5.3 pounds per horse
How about a 916 of 1995 vintage? ..... 114 horses at nearly 450 pounds....that's 3.9 horses per pound!
See why it was a big deal, now? Better power to weight than the contemporary, but later, 916, but lighter so it handles better!
You can't beat light for a racer, unless you make it light and strong. Those are better numbers than a two-stroke TZ250 racer of the same era!
Quote from: Spidey on December 16, 2010, 10:20:51 AM
At what price point?
$10k or less -- yup.
$15k -- Not really.
Alas, the short, hairy one has a point:
Modern manufacturing is mostly about labor, not materials. So while you save some money (actually a lot) building a single, unless the bike uses lower quality components, the rest of the bike costs close to the same as it's higher displacement counterpart.
The KTM Duke/SM models aren't exactly cheap, so they are forced to build something that fits into the special "SuperMoto" category, rather than compete directly with sportbikes.
Thanks for killing my dreams Spidey :'(
Mind you, I'm going to keep the dream of someday building my own :-*
You are kinda preaching to the choir about lightness to me.
My point was it's got an inflated value because of it's extremely limited production coupled with the racing history. The racing bit IS important, but the only reason it's 75k+ is because they didn't make more than 60 something.
I thought Id seen them sell the thirty's before.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Quote from: Monsterlover on December 18, 2010, 10:20:32 AM
I thought Id seen them sell the thirty's before.
Maybe I'm wrong.
when they were new. ;D
Maybe, but I think the last one that came up on ebay that had the forums all active was in the $35,000 range and I can't remember if it sold it not.
Got to $75.1k but didn't meet reserve. [coffee]
I love this bike and the road version especially. 75K is silly money. It's no Daytona at Mecum. Ca-mon, the thing is cool n' hot 'n all but it didn't even win! FIRST LOOZAH ! What I'm guessing is, in the future with a more eco-commuter driven society like Thi-Chi. We might see some hot rods like this. Anybody check out what's going on with the rig's there? Tee-rick! I'm working on a deal for a Madd Ass 125. At cost, this winter to do a 160 swap + extras. Mind you I still ride a S2RK800DRK, Honda '83 CB1100F, and a dirty Kawi450f. BRRaaappp.