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Title: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monster Dave on December 15, 2010, 06:34:43 AM
Holy Crap!! And it was caught on live video!!!

FYI - he missed everyone he shot at.

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2010/12/14/vo.fl.school.board.shooting.WMBB (http://cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2010/12/14/vo.fl.school.board.shooting.WMBB)


Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: fastwin on December 15, 2010, 06:47:31 AM
Wow. I heard about that but hadn't seen the video. Nutcase. [bang] Glad he didn't hurt anyone. So much for the Christmas spirit. :P
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monster Dave on December 15, 2010, 06:49:15 AM
Quote from: oldfastwin on December 15, 2010, 06:47:31 AM
Wow. I heard about that but hadn't seen the video. Nutcase. [bang] Glad he didn't hurt anyone. So much for the Christmas spirit. :P

I bet the board members are very thankful for their lives this X-mas.



Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Vindingo on December 15, 2010, 06:52:17 AM
Quote from: oldfastwin on December 15, 2010, 06:47:31 AM
So much for the Christmas spirit. :P

He gave those people the best Christmas they will have in their entire lives.  Think about how happy they are to be alive!  The shooter was a regular Saint Nick... a martyr even!  [clap]    





[bang] +1 on the glad he didn't hurt anyone.  
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Vindingo on December 15, 2010, 06:52:55 AM
Quote from: Monster Dave on December 15, 2010, 06:49:15 AM
I bet the board members are very thankful for their lives this X-mas.

[laugh]  my thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Slide Panda on December 15, 2010, 07:03:11 AM
Here's mroe footage -

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2010/12/14/vo.fl.school.board.shooting.WMBB (http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2010/12/14/vo.fl.school.board.shooting.WMBB)

One female member of the board attempts to disarm him prior to the footage Dave linked to. Also the link above has some more of the talking. Gotta give the Superintendent some credit, he keeps pretty damn cool in the face of the guy with the gun.  Super sure had some luck on his side, not to get hit from that first shot - looks initially like he'd got it dead center.

Wonder why he chose to paint the V logo from V for Vendetta on the wall
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: mitt on December 15, 2010, 07:07:39 AM
At one point the school board thought the shooter had used blanks.


mitt
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monster Dave on December 15, 2010, 07:09:22 AM
That link takes you to the same vid that I posted.

The one thing that might have been a bit inflamatory and a "no-no" was calling the guy out on the fact that he wanted to die; it was right after that when the shooter opened fire!  :-X
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Slide Panda on December 15, 2010, 07:12:11 AM
Quote from: Monster Dave on December 15, 2010, 07:09:22 AM
That link takes you to the same vid that I posted.

So it does - I'm not sure how to single out a video on that page with a link... The one I'm referencing is 5;18 long, and at the moment is the right most on the top row of additional videos below the main player.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monster Dave on December 15, 2010, 07:19:35 AM
 [thumbsup] Thanks!
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: RAT900 on December 15, 2010, 07:33:16 AM
Considering what I pay up in NY metro in "school taxes"

for a bloated overstaffed, wasteful and squanderous bureaucracy that has nothing to do with educating the children...

I can understand the rage
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: duccarlos on December 15, 2010, 12:33:52 PM
I'm sure the guy didn't want to kill anyone.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: mitt on December 15, 2010, 01:04:28 PM
It is too bad the brave woman didn't have a gun in her purse...


mitt
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monster Dave on December 15, 2010, 01:14:51 PM
Quote from: mitt on December 15, 2010, 01:04:28 PM
It is too bad the brave woman didn't have a gun in her purse...


mitt

I doubt that having a gun in her purse would have made it hurt him more when she hit him with it.  [cheeky]

Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: ducatiz on December 15, 2010, 02:43:51 PM
Quote from: mitt on December 15, 2010, 01:04:28 PM
It is too bad the brave woman didn't have a gun in her purse...


mitt

too bad they all didn't have one somewhere.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monsterlover on December 15, 2010, 04:27:12 PM
There's plenty to argue on pro/con for ccw, but that's definitely an eye opener.

Hard to say why he missed everyone.  They easily all could have been wheeled out under a sheet.

And so we're clear, I am pro ccw.

That is one lucky group of people.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Kopfjäger on December 15, 2010, 04:45:54 PM
He didn't miss everyone.   ;)
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monsterlover on December 15, 2010, 04:51:53 PM
Well, that's one way to look at it

:)
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: lethe on December 15, 2010, 04:56:20 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on December 15, 2010, 04:45:54 PM
He didn't miss everyone.   ;)
Apparently he was a big enough target that even he couldn't miss.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: ducatiz on December 15, 2010, 07:00:52 PM
Anyone want to bet the school board building has a "No Firearms" sign on the front door?

Why didn't he obey it? 
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monsterlover on December 15, 2010, 07:11:44 PM
I wondered about that as well.

Also... IB4TL
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Kopfjäger on December 15, 2010, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on December 15, 2010, 07:00:52 PM
Anyone want to bet the school board building has a "No Firearms" sign on the front door?

Why didn't he obey it? 

You funny man
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on December 15, 2010, 07:20:49 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on December 15, 2010, 07:00:52 PM
Anyone want to bet the school board building has a "No Firearms" sign on the front door?

Why didn't he obey it? 

Maybe he never learned to read and that's why he was mad at the school.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: ducatiz on December 15, 2010, 07:24:50 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 15, 2010, 07:20:49 PM
Maybe he never learned to read and that's why he was mad at the school.

They don't say the words "no firearms" they have a pitchur of a gun wif an "X" threw it!
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: la strada on December 15, 2010, 10:30:56 PM
Quote from: mitt on December 15, 2010, 01:04:28 PM
It is too bad the brave woman didn't have a gun in her purse...


mitt

a brick would have been better  ;)
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: GAAN on December 15, 2010, 10:58:38 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on December 15, 2010, 07:24:50 PM
They don't say the words "no firearms" they have a pitchur of a gun wif an "X" threw it!

oh well then that one is simple

his gun was different than the one in the picture
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: ducatiz on December 16, 2010, 05:38:07 AM
Quote from: Mother on December 15, 2010, 10:58:38 PM
oh well then that one is simple

his gun was different than the one in the picture
(http://www.roflcorner.com/wp-content/gallery/facepalm/mCU8jmcCknhaneztKwDmYdCyo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: duccarlos on December 16, 2010, 07:41:01 AM
More information shows he was a pretty good shot. Like I mentioned before, he didn't want to kill anyone. I think he just wanted an excuse to kill himself. At that range he would have needed to be blind to miss.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Kopfjäger on December 16, 2010, 08:24:21 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on December 16, 2010, 07:41:01 AM
More information shows he was a pretty good shot. Like I mentioned before, he didn't want to kill anyone. I think he just wanted an excuse to kill himself. At that range he would have needed to be blind to miss.

You would be surprised at the amount of people who miss at close range the first time they are shooting a human being. Most times the person is so overwhelmed that they stare at the person and never see the sights on the gun. He also has atleast one AD into the floor, so he had no idea what he was doing.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: ducatiz on December 16, 2010, 09:07:05 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on December 16, 2010, 08:24:21 AM
You would be surprised at the amount of people who miss at close range the first time they are shooting a human being. Most times the person is so overwhelmed that they stare at the person and never see the sights on the gun. He also has atleast one AD into the floor, so he had no idea what he was doing.

yeah, the second (?) shot was totally accidental -- he was freaked out.   adrenalin + high cholesterol + caffeine + twinkies.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monster Dave on December 16, 2010, 01:56:25 PM
It's sad but there's a video now on CNN of his wife trying to paint the situation as:

1) That he was a "military man" and that he was "trained to use guns."
2) That he missed on purpose.
3) That the reason he started shooting was to actually save the lives of the school board members "from the shooting of the SWAT team." because "when he started shooting he knew that they would duck and get down which would protect them from the shooting by SWAT."

[bang]

I like (sarcasm) that she said that he was "a military man". That could mean anything - he liked war movies? he played military video games?? he hunted deer??? She never clarified what branch of service he purportedly connected with...

There's an extreme case of denial going on there I think.
Title: Re: Gunman Fires on School Board Members
Post by: Monsterlover on December 16, 2010, 02:24:49 PM
I'd say