Ducati Monster Forum

A quick rundown on my tyre experiences and opinions FWIW.  Feel free to add yours, but keep it concise - no essays please  [thumbsup].


What?  Bridgetone Battlax BT16s [OE] (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  OE = N/A.
How far?  5,400kms to completely shagged out. We're talking steel belt.
The good?  Nice n grippy, dependable and confidence inspiring.  Up to 5k I liked very much.
The bad?  5,400kms is too few for my liking, the wear towards the end was extreme making the last.... 400kms... tedious and unpleasantly "tippy".  Shoulda dumped em @ 5,000.
Buy again?  Only at the right price.
Grip  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup].  Longevity   [thumbsup] [thumbsup].


What?  Michelin Power Pures (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  $500 fitted.
How far?  7,000kms.... coulda maybe flogged em a little further.
The good?  They do grip.  Slower turn-in than the BT16s.  7,000+kms not too shabby and they did wear evenly.
The bad?  A little weirdly unsettling over irregular surfaces, white lines.... bitumen sealant, they gripped but they occasionally felt a little skittish << technical term  ;D  
Buy again?  No.
Grip  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup].  Longevity  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup].


What?  Continental Sport Attacks (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  $296.60 inc shipping from here >> http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/category/Tire-and-Wheels/Tire-Combos/ (http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/category/Tire-and-Wheels/Tire-Combos/) << +$40 to fit em, thanks Brad  [thumbsup].  
How far? Rear: 5,700.  (The front one is still going strong).
The good?  Sexy tread pattern. I know. I'm so shallow  8).  Fantastically grippy tyres, love 'em.  Remained totally confidence inspiring as they wore, making em just as nice from beginning to end.  No shenanigans whatsoever.
The bad?  The rear didnt last too long......  Could maybe have got 6000 if I was prepared to ride it to the metal.  But thats the only negative I can find to report.
Buy again?  Yup, already did.
Grip [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup].  Longevity   [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

620 first.

What?  OEM Pirelli Dragon's (120/60 and 160/60? from memory)
How much?  N/A
How far?  9,000kms.... coulda maybe flogged em a little further but I think they were pretty square.
The good?  Couldn't tell ya much I was very green and just trying to stay upright.   
The bad?  Pretty hard and felt terrible at the end of life.   
Buy again?  Yes but I don't really need that kinda tyre.


What?  Michelin Pilot Powers (120/70ZR17 + 160/60ZR17)
How much?  $600 fitted.
How far?  7,000kms.... with me and the new owner has done another 5,oook's with'em.
The good?  Grippy very much so, felt good in the wet also 
The bad?  I think they have been deleted from the range and replaced with the ill feeling Pure's
Buy again?  Yes.   

S4Rs

What?  Pirelli Dragon Supercorsa Pro's (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  $500 fitted.
How far?  7,000kms.... or a bit more didn't really pay enough attention.
The good?  Shit/blanket..... You get it. 
The bad?  I got rid of them to put on Pilot Pure's, silly me.     
Buy again?  Yes (have a track day set waiting to go on).     

What?  Michelin Power Pures (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  $500 fitted.
How far?  5,000kms.... so far but they are going after Xmas. .
The good?  Grippy.  Slower turn-in than the Supercorsa Pro's.  7,000+kms not too shabby and they wore evenly, making em just as nice from beginning to end. 
The bad?  A little weirdly unsettling over irregular surfaces, white lines.... bitumen sealant, they gripped but they occasionally felt a little skittish << technical term   
Buy again?  Nup, no confidence in them.           

 What: Pirelli Diablo
How Much: OEM
How Far: 8000Km rear; 15000Km front
The Good: great turn in, good wear, good grip for road use.
The bad: Nothing really
Buy again: Yes but no longer in the range

What: Michelin Road 2CT
How much: $450 fitted
How far: Not very perhaps 4000Km then changed to Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa. See below.
The Good: Seem to wear OK
The Bad: Seemed OK for the first 1000Km or so but then during a couple of runs up Glorious had power slides on the rear which isn't normal on my 800 and then started to slide front and rear when not even near the limit. Scary. Did a track day and scared the hell out of myself on most turns. One of the instructors who was following me had a chat and he couldn't understand how I'd hung on. Slid from inside to the outside lane on both tyres.
Buy again: No way, even if they lasted forever!

What: Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa
How much: $450 fitted
The Good:?
The Bad:?
Note: had them fitted yesterday and its been raining cats and dogs since. Will advise once scrubbed in! All reviews rate them highly.

Side note, I'll be very interested to know how good the new Pirelli is.
It was/is the tyre that I am going for next after I use up the Supercorsa Pro's I've just been given.

Thanks for starting this thread.  [thumbsup]

Any news on when they are out?

They are out if you are talking about the Diablo Rosso Corsa being that Monsterdorf has them fitted.

Bikebiz has Pirelli Diablo SuperCorsas on special for $499. Im tossing up between those and the rosso corsa. I try not to ride in the rain but im thinking im sure the supercorsas are the better tyre but most probably overkill for someone of my skill level.

MCAS usually do Super Coras Pros for $450.

I cant seem to find supercorsa pros...... are these dragon or diablo? they are not on the pirelli page

First page of Pirelli on the bottom left.

http://www.mcas.com.au/_product.php?section=1&prodid=8077 (http://www.mcas.com.au/_product.php?section=1&prodid=8077)

Thanks Matty.

As far as i can tell, Dragons seem to be the old model which were replaced with Diablos

Cakeman, don't worry too much about the rain thing.  I've read that Pirelli are not good in the rain but I've ridden on Diablo Rossos and Angels straight from fitting into torrential downpours and not had any problems. The joys of living in Victoria (although one occurance was in Qld/Nth NSW!)

Yep the Super Corsa Pros are an older tyre, the new model is the Diablo Rosso Corsa.
It's has a very similar pattern to the older model just a few more cuts and less of a bald shoulder.

The Pros are basically a road legal track tyre. Not much chop in the rain, i think the Rosso Corsa will be a better wet tyre.

the Pirelli Dragon Supercorsa is the old tyre, been around for years, came in SC1, 2, 3 compounds.

Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa Pro is the new one, it's more track based than the Dragon i'm told.  both have minimal tread.

Diablo Rosso Corsa replaces the Diablo Corsa 3, and is quite a bit cheaper to boot.  same tread pattern as Diablo Rosso.

I've got a set of Diablo Rosso Corsa's on my track bike (GSXR 750). They came new on the bike. Not sure whether to run them or put 'em on my Monster. Are they grippy enough for flat out track days, or would you run slicks? I'm used to slicks at the track from Formula 400. I can get second hand slicks cheap from a mate and was wondering if the Rosso's would be worth putting on the monster.

Also, I'm running a Dunlop Q2 on the back of my Monster at the moment. It's a good street tyre I reckon, it's a bit on the sporty side. Bloody hell it's a big 180. It fills out the rear of the bike like a 190 and only just fits. A mate and I were comparing our Monsters rear tyres (both 93-98 model types). He has a 180 Pirelli Rosso and my Q2 looks huge next to it. The angle of the sidewall really flares outwards another 5mm each side, leaving only 5mm clearnce from the chain. If the adjustment is a little out the chain will rub the tyre.
Looks tough though.

I'd say the tyre is not fully suited to a track bike, it would do fine on the Monster as a track tyre but no your Gixer.
If it was the Diablo Supercorsa you'd be fine, but if it's just a track bike then do the slicks especially if you can get them on the cheap.

Track bike Tony? You Dark horse  [evil] [thumbsup].
Dead right, a mate of mine is running Q2s and compared to my last couple of 180s it looks like a 190....  as you say the side walls are really flared in comparison....  I have a set of Q2s lined up next.... but they'll need to be good to feel better than my recently fitted Conti Sport Attacks...... 

Thanks for the advice, I was leaning that way. Having raced on slicks and used tire warmers they are a bit of a crutch for me now on the track. I don't fully utilize their capabilities but I feel more confident with them :-[.

The Rosso Corsas would be plenty sticky for spirited road riding [evil].

Hey Unge how are ya'?

It was a Christmas present from my beautiful wife. A total surprise, wrapped in a red velvet bow.
She had pity on me after I sold my Formula 400 bike to pay for the kids teeth.

A mate is selling his new Rosso's to put Q2's on his Monster because they look so tough! The difference between our two bikes from the rear is killing him!

The tyre guy said that the Q2's and Pilot Pure's are similar performance wise , but that the Q2's last longer. They were the same price so I got the Q2's.  Now I know they're fat.

He put the Q2s on and is rapped. Marginal clearance from the chain (5mm) and gotta get it spot on as I found.

They will look mean as shark shit with your SSS.

Monsterdorf, have you done a few k's on those new Pirelli tyres now?
What say you about them?

After the little Oxley tour there are a few of us in need of new rubber, the Rosso Corsa are the top of my list, along with the Conti Sport Attack.
I know Brian has them on as does Unger.
What's your verdict so far on them Unger? I am told that the Conti's are made by a bunch of ex Pirelli engineers so they have a similar profile but must be run at 42-44 psi in the rear and 38+ in the front.

I tried higher pressure in the Pilot Pure's on day 2 and 3 which felt better but I am still not going back to them a 2nd time.

So do tell about those new Pirelli's.

I guess it's time to start reading opinions on tyres.. There's not much left on my michelins after the recent trip. 

Also interest to hear opinions on recent tyre choices. Had michelins for the last two sets ; roads and powers.... Was thinking of going back to pirelli, but contis are not in the mix given some recent good experience by some.  Never ridden on bridgestones, so perhaps I should be looking there too?

im tossing up between bt-16's and diablo rosso corsa..........

I can say nothing but good words for Bridgestones, they have never let go unexpected and wear well and I like the profile, they let the Monster ease over into turns nice and predictable, from me they get  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]






                                        Mmick

Goldy, after reading that new thread that you started for me I couldn't wait to lend a hand here re new tyres. Go for sport attacks mate as I can get a nice shine on the sidewalls and it doesn't seem to run when they get warm.  !   [thumbsup]. I do hope this has helped you make a decision.

Thanks so much Brian, I was hoping that you could have chimed in on that thread..... perhaps you're saving your comments for later...

I'm getting good reports that the Conti's are the business (my previous post in this thread should have read that they're in the mix of choice), just concerned about how many kms you'll get out of them. Its not really the choice of brand I'm suffering, more really whether I should buy Sports Touring or not.

Now, as for shine, I'm glad that you noticed my own OCD when it comes to bike cleanliness, and you've assisted greatly in narrowing it down. I've read reports of the Michelins not holding tyre black when they get hot. Thanks for the input  [thumbsup]

On a more serious note mate, i have only just scrubbed them in on the weekend but so far, so good. I was a tad tentative in the wet at first but by the end of Oxley i trusted them with my life. I put them on after chatting with a tyre rep who dealt with a few brands but swore by the Sport Attacks. I did a lot of research on the net in forums and such, never heard a bad word.......BUT......you have to run them hard to get the benefits.......forget the 32/34 theories.......these buggers have to be 38/42 to perform....they tried less in tests but they overheat and you won't be happy with them......Mate, i don't confess to be an expert, nor have the experience that our good friend Mmick does.......but, put it this way......after 1000 or so k's, i have scrubbed then in dam near to the edges.....only confidence in a tyre will let me do that. But if you prefer a more touring oriented tyre, they also say that the Conti Road Attack 2 is brilliant as well.....and will last longer......Matty may be trying my bike this week so hang off till he gives you a report.
Brian W/ "Teflon",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?????................... [roll]

Thanks mate, the longevity is what I am after. As you saw on the trip, I'm more docile than others in the twisties, and with the softer compounds end up with a pretty squared tyre with the type of riding I do.

My conundrum is that my only ST tyre experience with a Michelin Pilot Road (not the Road 2), which gave me reason for not liking them on more than one occasion, mostly when the tyre was not up to temp.

So, I'm figuring that current generation touring, esp dual compound types, should be better performers. So I guess that I'm going to suck it up and try a latest generation ST tyre and see how it fairs.

Does anyone have opinions on having a ST on the rear and a more sporty on the front?
 

Don't quote me, but i am 90% sure that is what Mmick does.......he gets the softer stickier compound for the front and harder on the rear, then both are totally shagged together.........am i correct there mmick  ?

just for my 2c (err 5c showing my age) when I got my bike it still had the original bridgestones on them - they were shite, probably because of their age.  I went to dunlop qualifiers front and rear - excellent tyre great grip but destroyed the back in less than 3000km.  Have gone to an Avon sports/touring tyre on the rear and so far so good.  Not sure whether I will stick with the qualifier on the front - but I agree a harder compound and the rear and softer on the front.

                                          Mmick

What are people's recommendations for purely road use (all year, all weather)?  I am debating Bridgestone BattLax BT016R's (already on the bike and have given me 10,000km), Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa's or Pirelli Angels.  My riding is nearly all a 15-20 minute commute on a variety of roads (steep twistys, freeway and town).  On the one hand I'm tempted with the Bridgestones as they have served me well, on the other I have nothing to compare them with so could be missing out on a better tyre.  Advice appreciated.

Stephan, I have Continentals new Sport Attack on my Monster and can't fault them, if its mileage that you are after then their Road Attack would be an option.
Have also fitted Pirelli's new Diablo Rosso's to an MV and am equally impressed, definately not a mileage tyre though.
Decisions decisions mate.......gets a bit confusing eh.....!

Always a fun and interesting conversation.
Purely road use? I'm guessing that you might mean all round use, sport, touring, commuting etc...
Personally I've never had Bridgestone's so I can't comment on them.
With regard to the Pirelli Rosso Corsa, I'd say it's more of a sport focsued tyre being that it comes from a very track derived heritage.
Not much side wall grip, I know the previous generation Supercorsa Pro wasn't much good in the wet.

Pirelli Angels would be a better all round choice, much harder compound and I'm sure a longer life span.
I know a few people who are on them and say they are a great tyre.

Michelin also have a Road 3 out now which have often been a choice of people on the commute.

Myself I have recently gone to Conti Sport Attack which are great (for me) they also have a Road Attack tyre which has a harder compound.
As always it's a personal choice, I like the profile of the Conti/Pirelli. I didin't like the Michelin Pilot Pures but then some do.

 

I'm tending toward the Angels, certainly compared to the Rosso's, as I agree I value milage over track level performance.  The obvious choice are the BattLax, as I am already familiar with them, but I figure it might be worth experimenting and trying a new tyre.  I'll get some prices and make a decision.  Thanks for the input.

As for prices......give MAW at Castle hill a call as i have been told by many that their prices are good.......
Also stick your head inside MCAS as they usually have good deals on the floor.........

I'm also loving the Conti Sport Attacks  [Dolph]....  Not sure about longevity yet though  :-\.

Wow - you did well.  I only managed to get 5,400kms out of my original BT16s.  If I got 10k out of my BT16s I would've had no hesitation in buying them again. But be aware that the BT16s your may buy as replacements are a different construction to the OEM version BT16s supplied with the new bike. 

So far on my Conti's I have done about 3500-4000k and can still see the Cnti attack on the rear tread.
I am doing something wrong? I don't ride that fast  [evil]

I will soon be trying a Pilot Pure on the rear. Have heard mixed reports. It is a very light tyre to hold. Must have light side wall construction. What pressure will it need? I run whatever is available for the right price and this tyre came up cheap.

The tyre is light because it's not Steele belted it's Kevlar belted and therefore lighting in construction. You will find it runs best at higher pressure to compensate for the lack of stiffness. When I had mine they were usually up around 38psi, personally I hated mine they just had a vague not all there feeling to them. They never felt good on coarse roads and gave me more than a few moments during there life with me.
However I know a few of us like them and have no real issue with the way they perform, so again everyone is different and gets different feeling from there tyres.

Noticed not many comments on The Michelin Pilot Power's?

I like them as a compromise of a sticky and wear.....more leaning towards sticky......actually wear isn't great

Great lean in, and confidence building tyres.

Anyone got suggestions on different tyre pressures to try, I generally run quite low....around 33-35 psi

Thought about The Pures, however they look a little track orientated for me.....and I wouldn't like to get caught out in the rain with them...

I think one of the things we have never discussed is working temperature, all tyres will have an ideal temp in which they will work best, a pure touring tyre will work at a lower temp to say a pure sports tyre and will by its very nature get better milage, then we have sport/touring tyres which will be somewhere in between the first two I just mentioned that is it will give good grip at lower temps and still work well as it heats up to a point before performance drops off and milage will be reasonable.

Ever been on a ride up through the hills and one of your mates is on the 'pace' and you are thinking, well I've got these super sticky hoops on and yet they feel like they are moving around, squirming and not giving you a lot of confidence, yet that mate of yours seems to be having no trouble at all.  Eventually you stop somewhere for a breather and you look at his tyres and he has brand X sport tourers, well what probably has happened (all else being equal) is that his tyres were more appropriate for the job than yours, his were working in their 'temp zone' again you look at yours and they seem to be ripped or feathered at the edges, your expensive sport compound tyre was showing 'cold tearing' on the rubber, it didn't get to its ideal 'temp zone' and work like it was designed to, so you probably lots of $$$ for a tyre that is not ideal for the job.

   Stephen C is now asking the right questions, he wan ts all year round tyres that will work in lots of different temps and conditions, dry , wet cold, hot and everything in between so he will now be looking for a tyre that will need to be a fair compremise across all these conditions. I will not stand up and say brand X is any better than brand Y or Z because we have too many variables, but I will say I use this brand because.... and if that suits you then you spend your money.

   Remember, its not the latest, stickiest tyre that will suit your needs, be honest with your self and ask, where you will be using these tyres,your riding style, on what bike, and road conditions that you will normally encounter.

Or you may want to Google tyre temps and see what you can find.





                                                    Mmick

I'm not sure if Pilot Powers are still sold, I thought they were replaced by the Pures.
As to them being a track focused tyre, I never liked them on the track my previous Pirelli Supercorsa Pros were far better at track use.

In the wet was when I had the best time on the Pures, the run up the Oxley at the beginning of the year when were saw decent rain was my best experience with them.

Mmick makes a good point as always, operating temp is a major factor in how your tyre performs.

I've gone with the Pirelli Angels, mainly due to the cute angel pictures on the tread!  Actually the real reason is that I agree with Mmick, I don't need high performance track tyres, just long wearing and weather resistant commuters.  I also figured it wouldn't hurt to try something different to the BattLax's I'm already on.

Unfortunately, as I live in Newcastle, there is no MCAS to buy from, just good ol' Frasers.  Therefore I have to wait until they order them in, no matter what brand I go for!  Good thing I have a bit of wear left in the Bridgestones, experience has taught me not to hold my breath.

I did think about the Dunlop Sportsmarts.  They got fantastic reviews in Bike Magazine (UK).  Maybe next time.

Thank you to all who offered advice.

I have Pure's font and back...........really liked them at first ...........but..........now have lost all confidence in them  [puke]
They have worn really quickly 3k and not much life left in them. I rode yesterday with Matty and co up the Old road
and I could not keep up just had no grip and was getting very nervous.
I had a chat with Glen from Balmain tyres and he pretty much put it in a nutshell, he does not rate the Pures he described exactly
what I was feeling.
Apparently due to the non steel belt what happens is the tyre heat cycles way to often , without the steel the heat is not retained
so the temp goes up and down rapidly and often  even while riding ,resulting in the compound becoming harder as they age and loosing grip.
They are going in the bin and looking at the Conti sport Attack , I felt Matty/Brian's tyres up at the slab after a run North they were sticky like a track tyre
compared to my Pure's which were shinny and slippery.

 Michelin has got it wrong with this rubber and they look to be dropped from there range very soon.

Sounds like a line from a Porno [laugh]

Oh and try harder next time that will make them Sticky ;D

Frasers have just fitted a pair of Pirelli Angel ST's.  They charged $430 for the pair and $103 for the fitting.  It is too soon to comment on the feel of them as they are still shiny and slippery.  I'm not sure I like the silly 'angel' logo, but it will wear off soon.

The BattLax's did 10272 km and probably had a bit left on them.

Hey Dez,
As I said the other day, I've got huge wraps on my Metzeler Sportec M5 Interacts (or just Metzeler M5 if you like...)
I had to get mine from O/S because no one in Australia had 160 rears.
I bought them from motosport.com who were very cheap, and very quick to ship.

I find the Sport Tire reviews that the German "Motorrad" magazine does are quite good and you can use google translate on the web pages.
http://www.motorradonline.de/de/zubehoer/reifen/reifenspezial/test-motorrad-reifen-2010-touren--sport-und-hypersportreifen/306788?ref_id=319505 (http://www.motorradonline.de/de/zubehoer/reifen/reifenspezial/test-motorrad-reifen-2010-touren--sport-und-hypersportreifen/306788?ref_id=319505)


I've not heard a single person say a bad thing about the Conti Sport Attacks, so I dare say you're on to a good thing there.
Good Luck!

The good and the bad
100 odd rubber trees sacrificed there good juices for me today  [bow_down]
got me some Conti's  [thumbsup] wow forgot how well  a bike turns in with new rubber.
On removing the PP Pure set we were both amazed at how Nerf like flimsy they were , you
can push the tyre in with a very gentle push  [thumbsdown]
The bad
The mechanic (who will remain nameless ) noticed my chain was a little slack
So adjusted it.....................on the way home bang clack clack clack
Oops he forgot to do up the pinch bolts   >:( dummy [bang] one terse phone call and said Mechanics
very appolagetic  boss arrived minutes later for some road side spanner work.

Cant wait to scrub these in and enjoy corners again  [Dolph]  [thumbsup]

Dez, any chance of damage to eccentrics, sprockets, swingarm, etc?

Sport tyres are so over rated ???
I'm getting nobby's next like the tractor tyres in the picture.
Following the boys back down the Putty last Saturday Dock had no trouble keeping up with Matty in the twistys on the GS with nobby's :P
Also handy if you get caught out on a dirt road :D
Best of both worlds :D

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/robert3520/DSC03506-2-1.jpg)

Yes swingarm has a slight graze on it [puke]
Boss reckons he can touch it up but  I have to leave the bike
at his garage for half a day  [roll]

As for Rob and his tractor tyres  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Look........seeing this is a tyre thread, I just can't help myself........Below is a legend in action......yeah yeah.......I know you may have seen this before........but our beloved little Rob S......for our newbies to the forum...his method of tyre warming........

Men Behaving Badly 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8aqtWOk8uM&feature=player_detailpage#)

 Btw Teff I have 11000klm on that tyre pilot road 2 ct and will squeeze another 1000klm  :D

Yes, I know Rob........and good on you for getting those k's on it........and the edges look dam near brand new..... ;D

Oh will you two just go and get a room  ;D

just to add to this thread and get it back up to the top...

I put some new Dunlop Q2s on and I love them.  They have good feel and grip.  Previously I had Qualifiers on, but the lifespan was very short on the rear - 3500km.  The Q2 is asymmetric tread so see how that goes!

well, got my a nail in my Mich Pilot Road 2 a few weeks back...18,000k.

yep, that's serious!

so...bought the new Road 3...same dry feel...but the grip in the wet is awesome. I'm deliberately run over steel tramtracks now and cannot get any slippage at all. The rain just doesn't seem to effect them.

I'm only 400km's in on them, but am just amazed....a little amazed that a rider of my limited abilities can tell...but also in the tire. They reckon that they get a few more k's out of em too....is 20,000 a possibility?

 [thumbsup]

Hey Spider, did you replace both tyres or just the rear?

Are they expensive??








                                           Mmick

Just swapped out my mich pilot road 2 yesterday
I thought i was doing well to get 12000klm out of my rear pilot road 2,  was just on the wear indicators and got a puncture 1000klm, ago plugged it and road on it for 1000klm ,
i could have got another 2000klm at least ;D

Just replaced the rear with the same again, pilot power 2ct front though. [thumbsup]

More info Spider ,was that a rear Tyre and how far was it worn down to the wear indicators or the steel belts ???





Hey Mick i got my tyres from motosport USA $109 front  $154 rear $30 post had them in a week and $20per Tyre to have them fitted at my local bike shop  i just gave them the wheels only.
Worked out cost effective basically got the front Tyre for free,  if you bought here.
http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/index.php?cc=AU (http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/index.php?cc=AU)

Had a look at this site......... interesting...


Very good price on those tyres  [thumbsup]






                                               Mmick

I put the Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsas on the Monster. The 180 looks skinny compared yhe Q2 that was on. I now get 10-15mm clearance from the chain. The Q2 rear barely gave me 5mm, a big 180 as we have discussed.

Now to see how they last...

hmmm I got shafted, Northside charged me $650 for the same. Bit of an on the spot no thought about it purchase  [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang].

I only got 2K on them still, enjoy them so far, so hopefully it wont be another year until i replace them. Then straight motorsport.com for newies me thinks!

ouch

both, yeah $550 I believe, however I got 18,000 out of the old ones....so I can't complain.

I feel like such a grandma!

Wear indicators were still there, belts of course were covered....I was on a ride with HCG once and he had the belts showing by the end....I was freakin out!

My old Da just put a set of these on his Suzuki Bandit, he just came back from a 3 day run and ended up in some of the foulest weather (rain,fog, freezing cold, storm and tempest) and he said these tyres held up pretty good, even on dirt roads.

   I will see how they wear, gunna try and get a run on his bike too! Just so I can compare them to the original tyres that he had on his bike, they started to squirm a little coming off the turns up the Putty Rd so hopefully these will be a lot better, I think he paid around $550 plus fitting, makes that MotorSport mob in the States look pretty good. The total cost for these is $367:66 which includes shipping, I just noticed on their site that there is an additional $55 for the 'B' version for the 180/55 ZR - 17 I wonder what thats all about?






                                               Mmick

Anyone tried a set of Dunlop Sportsmax Roadsmarts?

GK

Just replaced my rear Conti Sport Attack after 5,700kms with...... another one  [Dolph]

First post updated  >>  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=45162.msg815398#msg815398 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=45162.msg815398#msg815398)

Ung ,I nedd a new one too but waiting until the sport attack 2 is available
in a month or so up here.
Same tyre but with the black chillie compund,fair bit of hype about its stickiness
although cant see how it could be any better, really like them .
Not huge distance looks like a will squeeze 7k out of my rear.
Just put a set of conti road attack 2 on the missus 695 they feel good  [thumbsup]

Maybe I need to ride the Monster harder cause I seem to get more k's out of mine.

Lightweight.

Hay you calling me fat Betty  >:(  [cheeky]

There is no way to respond to that without offended either or both of you ... again.

a quote from foot rot flats betty would describe you problem , the toad and the tapeworm  [laugh] [cheeky]

I already had the Sport Attack 1 in storage ready to go on (along with a set of Dunlop Q2s, which are going on next up). But if I knew what I know now, I'd be sticking with Contis.  Love 'em, hard to imagine the 2s could be better (and yet not wear out sooner).  Interested to hear what you think when you get yours.

I will give you a heads up when they go on [thumbsup]  [Dolph]
 the rear is going to be milked of all its remaining tread
in March down in Mexico this March , actually bit of a gamble as they should be going on
sooner than later but I thought I would take a page out of Heather's riding manual 
and see if I can get home with some steel showing  [laugh]  [beer]

I'll answer that for Betty.
You are neither fat and I am neither skinny we are just built with a different chasis.

Dez
I don't know how the Contis wear but the Alpine roads are very harsh on tyres, much more than any other roads I have ever ridden on.  So if you are in any doubt about the tread on your tyres, change them before the trip (I would be changing them if the wear markers are showing).  You will enjoy the ride so much more. It's not much fun sliding around on wet/damp roads. Not saying it will rain but you have to be prepared for it up there. And fog and cold.

Agree with Heatherp here. Des you won't be enjoying the alpine if you loose confidence in your tyres. If in doubt, change them now.

I have the road attacks of the m800 and even with my new found corner speed thanks to some CSS training at the creek, I really can't see the justification for me to choose sport attacks. Gone nowhere near the limits of these tyres, and never had a loss of confidence moment due to lack of heat and the like.

Each to their own, but I cannot fathom why you want such sticky tyres for road use. I'll take the the sport tourer tyres from here on in thanks!

Hear, Hear!


I'm running a Dunlop Sportmax on the rear and late last year (when the sun was shinning) I had a clean run up MacQuarie Pass and I tried to get the rear to step out off the turns and it would'nt (note to self, must try harder) but yeah I cant see the value of super sticky tyres for the street.







                                                Mmick


                                        Mmick

Im hearing you .....but after having my Pures slide out from under me and put me into the armco
going into Lithgow Ill take the stickys and their short life span from now thank-you so my life spam will be
a little longer .......its only money !
 It may be hard earned for me but my family likes it when I come home.

 ???

                 
                [roll]                     (http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac55/braando54/imagesCAFCXPUV.jpg)

Hey all, due for new rubber v soon.
I run a 120/60 front and 160/60 rear.

I'm planning on sticking with my super grippy Metzelers again... They've give me VERY good wear (~10K rear... i don't remember exactly, but they've been on since Nov2010 and I could still get another thou on them) and they stick like shit to a blanket.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to why I should look at anything else?

... my original consideration was to *maybe* look at the contis, but 120/60 , 160/60 seems to not be an option.

The Conti's are very good as you know many can a-test to here.
I always ran a 120/70 on my 620, it gave better turn in feel from a rounder profile.

Max check out the Conti Road attack 2
 I couldnt get the Conti sport in 160  so got a set on the 695 feel great out of the box.
The bike corners very nicely now , they feel really grippy with the black chillie compound
good reviews .

http://www.canyonchasers.net/reviews/tires/road-attack.php (http://www.canyonchasers.net/reviews/tires/road-attack.php)

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/motorcycle/themes/motorcycletires/sport_touring/road_attack2/contiroadattack2_en.html (http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/motorcycle/themes/motorcycletires/sport_touring/road_attack2/contiroadattack2_en.html)

Got them at a reasonable price $188 front $251 rear from my LBS
well reasonable for overpriced everythingville aka Australia

Matty  [thumbsup] on the 70 profile

I saw those... seem to get some good wraps, but it would take a lot for me to change from the Metzelers.. I have faith in their sticky-ness, their longevity, and they're $330 landed.
I can find the Conti RA2's for about $315 landed, but why bother when I get a known quantity for $15 more?
Will get you to jump on the 620 once the new rubber comes so you can compare Dez.

Splinter thread HERE : [url=http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=55194.0]http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=55194.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=55194.0)[/url] about 120/60 vs 120/70

Thought I'd drop in my 2 cents....

Just swapped the Power Pures over to the Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa's today. Managed to get an easy 8,000 klms out of the Pures & they had only just worn level with the wear indicators. I know a few of you on here would have gotten another couple of thou out of them before changing!

They never slipped, or lost traction on me, always gave heaps of feedback and were very confidence inspiring tyres - I would recommend. I even had 2 track based advanced training days with Bernie Hatton (TopRider) where, in all honesty, you can go out as hard and fast as you dare on the day. Again, no issues with them whatsoever. Only issue I had was not being brave enough to push them harder!

This time around, I thought I'd try a similar product from the Pirelli guys & see how it compares.

Only experience so far is riding out of the shop with them on, onto oil & fuel soaked Sydney roads in the pissing down rain - not fun.
I made it home in one piece, so they must be OK!  [thumbsup]

The only tyre I've had that's stepped out on me were the old Pilot Roads when they were cold. Modern multi compound sports touring tyres are a long way forward, even for a hack like me who really can't tell much!

This reminds me of when I went for a ride with mmick with the 2nd hand shinkos on the back of the M900, and the tyre was too big and his 525 chain was "eating" into the side of the tyre wall. Didn't phase him, he still ride it like he stole it! Another reminder is bigiain - again someone who rides it like he stole it, and will pretty much bleed the life out of any tyre he puts on (as you would when you do the kms he does)

My last observation on this subject comes from my recent foray into large dirt bike riding. In the short time I've had the katoom, its taught be quite a bit of how to handle things when it gets a little loose under ya. And that will translate to better skills for me on the road as well - not so puckered up when the road surface / traction is compromised.

I'm only commenting on my own case - each to their own and equip yourself so you feel comfortable, safe and your enjoying yourself!

The two very best things I did for my riding enjoyment and safety was (not in any order)
- suspension setup
- rider training

My M800 is so so so much better now that it's suspension is working correctly carrying me around. Bike handles much more predictably and is confidence inspiring. Whist I accomplished this with a bling kaching sbk conversion - same could have been done with some stiffer springs, new oil / seals and by someone who knows what they are doing!

Last year I did a CSS school, just Level 1, and have probably not ridden with most of you since then. That day put a lot of pieces together for me and my riding skill and confidence has jumped considerably as a consequence. I went for a ride with Matty and Vince shortly afterwards, and they will attest to the difference. I fondly remember stopping and Matty taking his helmet off, saying "well guess who's just got some new riding skills". Training did more for my safety than any money spend on tyres, brakes or otherwise.. I plan to do more (but perhaps the next lot will be on dirt riding techniques!)

Anyways, the point of my drivel being that all modern tyres are pretty bloody good.

Like I said, use what makes you feel safe and smile!

Good point Goldy, there is not one set of well known brand name tyres that i'd turn my nose up on, be it for high mileage or grip.....I go for the latter as I don't commute or do frequent highway mileage. Pures has had their detractors, but my son in law had no problems with them, nor DanT i see.....horses for courses I say....

How many times do we put a new set on and can't believe the difference they've made........BUT........forgetting that the tyres taken off were pretty well shagged........hence making the new set "the best tyres I've had"........

The new generation tyres are, 99% of the time, better than the riders ability to use them......(Mmick is the 1%)......

brian w

Jebus Bwian, I'm NOT that good, I've cocked plenty of corners up and probably will continue to do so whilst I giggle away in my helmet.

 






                                       Mmick

BUT, mate, even when you cock them up, you tend to do it fast!

Of course you're not Mmick, but I may need a favour from you down the track        [evil]

 [popcorn]











                                           Mmick

What?  Michelin Powers (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  OEM
How far?  8,500kms
The good?  Great feel. Good warm up time. Predictable. Great wet weather traction. Wore evenly front and rear.
The bad?  Got slippery at hot track days.   
Buy again?  For the right price.
Grip  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup].  Longevity  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup].


What?  Continental Sport Attacks (120/70ZR17 + 180/55ZR17)
How much?  $400.00 odd fitted 
How far? Rear: 6,500kms. The front one has still got heaps (probably another 2,000kms).
The good?  Look good. Grip fantastic.
The bad?  The rear didn't last long. New ones in Brisbane are about $450.00/set or $300.00 for a rear. Rear tyre had an axial split after 200kms and one track day. It didn't really open up but looked bad. I spoke to the tyre fitter and he said he will replace it if it fails. I said I don't want it to fail, can he replace it before that happens. He said no. The tyre is worn out now and the split is still there. Didn't get worse or seem to affect anything other than my confidence in the brand.
Buy again?  Probably not. I know these things happen, but still. Once bitten twice shy.
Grip [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup].  Longevity   [thumbsup] [thumbsup]



Looking at a set of Metzeler M5's now for under $400.00/set fitted. Might get them this weekend. 

Excellent wise words Rowdy.

Haven't heard that about the Conti's from any rider I know.
And I'd agree I'd rather them replaced before they fail.

The next brand you are eyeing off are also a great set of tyres and I was looking at them before I went for the Conti's

Same thing happened my Conti rear, only noticed after the day at the farm. Tyre still looks like
new accept for the split which looks as if someone ran a razor across it (maybe the kids just playing around [evil])

Will defiantly go back to Pirelli's, old style if still available (nice & cheap) with plenty of grooves
Sport attacks don't  handle the little streams of water to well, which always appear mid corner up the old road, had
no such problem with the pirelli's
(http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/large/pirelli-diablo-corsa-III.jpg)

I've found some pics that show the split I was talking about in the Conti Sport Attacks.

Like I said, it turned up and didn't go away or get any worse.

I've done some track days, powerslides, burnouts etc and no problemo so I guess it is only an issue inside my head.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7053/6884870801_26c42c6948.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ptkahl/6884870801/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6884870661_c62bfe178e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ptkahl/6884870661/)

Looking forward to hear how they compare with the Conti...
I love my M5s.

Exactly the same as my tyre, appears to be worse closer to the edge on both sides (no testing as I ride like an angel)

Can't guarantee they won't come apart. Mine didn't so....

Kinda good to hear it wasn't just me that had a problem with them. Like I said, I liked them for everything else (except price).

I also thought it was funny how the front and rear mount with the tread pointing opposite ways. I thought there was a mistake when I picked it up after they were first fitted.

Anyway, just my OCD playing up I guess. I like everything to be pointing the same way.

I believe that is quite common for bike tyres ... there is meant to be some wet weather theory involved.
Rear tyre needs grip to get the power down (accelerating), front tyre needs the grip for braking (decelerating) - although I don't think your tyres spin backwards just because you are slowing down ???
It is not uncommon to have the tyres monted the wrong way ... because it looks wrong.

Could be all bullshit of course.

First run out on the new Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa's today & whilst it was mostly about 'scrubbing' them in, they we're bloody fantastic!
I know it could be simply shifting from old rubber to new, but they were VERY solid.
I even forgot that I should have been taking it easy and had one of the fastest runs back from the slab to the P.I.T.S.

I have only had the Pirellis on the 1098s but I can give my opinion on them.

What?  Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa (120/70ZR17 + 190/55ZR17)
How much?  $570.00 a little while ago now
How far? Rear: 5000kms. Track days and spirited riding only, no commuting.
The good?  Look great. Very round profile. The back looks skinnier than a lot of other 190/55's. Grip fantastic. Heat up quick. Good in wet weather. The bike will power wheelie at 100kph in second in the hammering rain. Great grip even on really hot dry track days.
The bad? Dunno. Km's maybe. I know guys that have claimed to get less milage from normal street riding though. I tend to get good milage out of street tyres. Also they seem a bit pricey but I asked a lot from them and they didn't let me down. Probably stuff around now that is just as good for less $$.
Buy again?  Definitely if they were/are cheaper.
Grip  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]  Longevity  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]


When I replaced the old ones with new ones, I noticed bugger all difference. Maybe heated up quicker but maybe not? I don't know. Anyway, I remember thinking how good these tyres felt even when they were worn out. So if your tire wear is even (ie not too much commuting on hypersport, super sticky tyres) and they aren't 10yrs old, your old tyres can still grip and roll on their side almost like new. Maybe.

I had the Metzeler M5 Sportec's fitted on Saturday and they seem ok. Too early to tell. But, when the tyre fitter saw the split in the Conti, he said it's a 'cold tear' and very common. He's seen it on lots of different brands. Apparently happens when the bike is ridden hard with cold tyres. I just thought they'd let go if they're cold but anyway.....

Might go for a quick run on Sunday and report back on the M5's.

hey ozmo's, my Dunlop Q2's are just about done and would certainly put another set straight back on as they have been the best set of tyres I have ridden on but after reading here and other reviews the Conti Sport Attack 2's look appealing also and are comparable in price to the Q2's!

The reason for considering another brand is purely longevity as my bike only just clicked over 9k last weekend and the Q2's are worn to the wear indicators and if I'm not mistaken they weren't fitted from factory so they are the second (at least) set for the bike!

Any more input from the guy's who have the Conti Sport Attack 2?

Cheers,

Scott

I know it's a little late, but as I'm reading these, I can't help but wonder what are the avg air temps for most of these people.
I mean I live in Germany were a day above 90 has people talking about hell on earth.
and the mornings are in the 40-50s IN THE SUMMER

Our temperatures only tend to get above 40 by exception (in summer) ... but it is really too hot to be riding by then (fully geared up).

Of course we use a different temperature scale to you ... actually despite the German heritage of Daniel Fahrenheit I thought you guys would be using Celsius by now too [cheeky] ;D

yes, yes. I drifted into a down under thread and didn't realize it.
C is the correct scale

We do get some pretty wild swings in temperature ... and it is a big country. But its typical to say we are generally fair weather riders ... and more generalisations coming up:

For all but the coldest few months of the year you can probably find some riding in the 20s ... early and late in the day for summer when you can reasonably expect temps in the 30s for the middle of the day. Most will ride in spring and autumn when temps may be in the teens. Temps in single digits (primarily winter) will keep most bikes tucked up in the shed with a blankie early and late on the shorter winter days but peak temps in the teens are easily tolerable.

Mid to High 30s in summer only works for short periods - particularly with full gear - heat stroke and dehydration are real concerns. This is also when your tyres cop a pounding.

Question:  I now have a 180/55 Pilot road 3 on the rear. Power Pure on the front. Took it for a ride yesterday up the Grampians to scrub in the sides.

Loved the front but the back feels 'squirmy' on exit from corners.  Tyre pressure is 36 psi.  No luggage on the bike, just me (63kg). I was on my own so riding like a nana - 2cm chicken strips as evidence.

Should I be running a higher pressure?

Is the squirminess something I'll just have to get used to?

Squirmy is a technical term - right?  [roll]

Loved the Conti Road attack 2 that I just destroyed on Turismo after only 5500kms.  :'(

Buncha "Fair Weather" girls blouses!! [roll] Ya buy 'em to ride 'em, hey Heather??  [thumbsup] [Dolph]

Think him talking about them Sydney mob bro. 

But I did choose drinking beer over riding in the deluge on day 3 of Turismo  [roll]

Squirmy is the technical term in deed Heather.

From my shorter experience on Pilot Pures (which are being pulled off the market) I would have thought that it'd be the front that was the tyre that would have the loose/vague feeling. Perhaps with tyre technology and manufactures trying lighter construction now days tyre pressures are having to move higher to compensate for lighter materials being used. 

Nah, simply noting that most of us ride because we want to - not because we have to.

Case in point:


I was tempted to point that out but was overcome by uncustomary politeness.

That's why I posted it Betty.  Before you could.  ;D

Well I just put more air in the tyre (40psi!) and it feels a bit better.  It still squirms just a little when accelerating out of a corner.  I think it's something I can get used to.
Someone has made the comment that it may have something to do with the groovy tread pattern.  Which to my mind is feasible.

Heather, your tyre on the back is fairly new right...?
I'd say that it needs 100 or so k's on it to scrub it in and take the smoothness off it. With the Contis (both road and sport) they need little of this as they already feel rough.
The new Contis on my Monster felt great from the very day I put them on but the new Dunlops on the MV are a different story, felt a tad slippery for a good 50k's.  My son in law has the pilots on his Buell and loves them.

 should have seen the first twenty in the wet  

Fitted them in Melbourne and scrubbed them in on the 300km ride home, previous to yesterday's ride.  [roll]

Paul, aren't you running Pilots now on your bike..............?
If so,how do you find them..........?
And your pressures are....?

Paul, aren't you running Pilots now on your bike  Yes
If so,how do you find them Good enough (cheap)
And your pressures are >30 ?????????

 I've tried tested Metzeler M3, Pirelli Diablo Corsa, Conti Sport Attack & now Pilots,  
 all have easily handled my ambition & lack of talent.

more compression damping maybe?  does your shock have compression?

I have no idea Brad.  Maybe you can have a look tomorrow when I come to see you. :-)

Hi all, been reading through all this with interest.
Just bought a 08 s4rs and shes due for tyres.
I do like to replace both tyres together if possible.
Am thinking conti sport front and road rear.
Has anyone tried this combo? And if so how'd you find it?
Also what pressures are recommended?
Do mid week blasts south of Sydney, and am looking forward to getting on track!
Thanx

Hi fudge
I'm running conti sport attack 2's second set due new rear soon , cant fault them.
Grip like a mother all the way to the cords but with a aggressive right wrist you wont get much more than 6-8 k.
Depends on what kind of riding you are planning to do , S4RS I would gather its not for a commute bike so why bother with the road attack go the full set of sports , got the roads on the missus 695 and they don't seem to be lasting much more than the sports.
Hope that helps
2 Dogs

I have that Combo, not due to choice but due to not looking/ordering a set and just thinking they'd be in at the shop.
I cant say I see any problem with the Combination of a Conti Road 2 and a Sport.
My first rear did around 9-10k and the front is still going but then I don't put much weight on the bike and I'm a very gentle rider.

As for psi, I run 34/36 and have no problem with them at that pressure.

cheers
Matty...

Currently running Pirelli Super Corsa SC2 which are even better than the Diablo Rosso Corsa's I had on before that.

Won't bag out any other brands but for me you can't go past Pirelli.

I would note that wear won't be a strength of this tyre as after 1 track day they look about 1/4 worn. Although I was blown away on the straights (at Queensland Raceway) my cornering speed was well ahead of most in my group (Green). I even had some guys come up and comment about how quick I was through turn 2 and 5 in particular. Looking at the tyres I have taken them right to the edge and they just hung on. I'd say they felt even better than the slicks on my sons track bike noting it has plenty more power than my S2R.

Recommended pressure is front 32psi and rear 28psi. Didn't use my warmers (they were on my sons ZX10Rs slicks) but had no problems. I went for the 180/60-17 rear which was awesome but necessitated me taking off the hugger as it didn't clear.

So if wear isn't an issue you can't go past Pirelli Super Corsa SC2's!

Fudge I saw an add for Contis for really cheap coming from QLD I think just after I ordered mine from my LBS  [bang]
The add was in that give away bike mag broadsheet you see around all over the place may be worth following up.
If you find it send me the link for future reference  [laugh]

I got a set from Micks Tyres (QLD} for $310 delivered to Melbourne.
Tyres have nice feel at street ldgal speeds.

Micks tyres in Brisbane are going out of business due to American imports. A shame because they were $390 delivered.
What's going on with Australian distributors? Greedy?
Unfortunately may have to buy USA.
But who from?
Cheers
Fudge.

I went to the local car tyre shop (does stock michelin car tyres) for a price on a pilot road 2 front.
His price was $80 cheaper than the local bike shop.
I think it was $174 including fitting but not balancing.
Can't remember the size but it was the standard size for a M600

motosport.com dont seem to be shipping tyres to Aus any more.... 

...apart from them I've also ordered from here:

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/t/50/-/181/751/Sportbike-Tires (http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/t/50/-/181/751/Sportbike-Tires)

....but they play games with the shipping prices - sometimes their freight rates are sensible other times not.

Thanx all for the feedback.
Will have a good look over the holidays and let you all know best prices and supplier etc.
Hope you all have a great Christmas!
Cheers
Fudge.

Try here:

http://www.jakewilson.com/ (http://www.jakewilson.com/)

Hi all,
Hope ya Xmas and new year was a good one.

Regarding Conti sport 2 tyres,
Jake Wilson in the States delivered for $352. (not confirmed)
Or
Aussie biker in Qld $399 plus $20 delivery. Owner (Dave) said he would deliver for free to Sydney at least, if a minimum of 3 sets were ordered.
Anyone interested can call him direct on 07 54741050. Make sure you mention ozmonsters forum.
I am happy to pay a little xtra to keep my cash here in Oz.
Cheers,
Fudge.

Hi all, New prices I have acquired for forum members only.

Balmain Motorcycles in Rozelle, Sydney. Ph (02) 98184547  ask for Glenn, very helpful!

Conti sport attacks $480 fitted
Pirelli Diablo super corsa sp $500 fitted
Pirelli Rosso corsa $480 fitted.

Needs a week notice and 1hr to fit.

Pirellis looking good at that price!!??

Lets hope the service is as good as it was on the phone.

Cheers,
Fudge.

You should be well looked after there. I've never heard anyone say a bad thing about them.

New Conti sport attack 2 installed today  [thumbsup] $270 fitted at my local

Finally got f/r conti sport 2 fitted today.
Well overdue, white stringy belt stuff showing.
$440 cash fitted at Balmain motorcycles.
Awesome service and highly recommended.
Speak to Glen and be sure to mention Oz Monster forum.
Thanx all for your feedback and advice.
Hope to ride with you all soon.