the ungeheuer tyre thread

[Rowdy]

I have only had the Pirellis on the 1098s but I can give my opinion on them.

What?  Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa (120/70ZR17 + 190/55ZR17)
How much?  $570.00 a little while ago now
How far? Rear: 5000kms. Track days and spirited riding only, no commuting.
The good?  Look great. Very round profile. The back looks skinnier than a lot of other 190/55's. Grip fantastic. Heat up quick. Good in wet weather. The bike will power wheelie at 100kph in second in the hammering rain. Great grip even on really hot dry track days.
The bad? Dunno. Km's maybe. I know guys that have claimed to get less milage from normal street riding though. I tend to get good milage out of street tyres. Also they seem a bit pricey but I asked a lot from them and they didn't let me down. Probably stuff around now that is just as good for less $$.
Buy again?  Definitely if they were/are cheaper.
Grip    Longevity  


When I replaced the old ones with new ones, I noticed bugger all difference. Maybe heated up quicker but maybe not? I don't know. Anyway, I remember thinking how good these tyres felt even when they were worn out. So if your tire wear is even (ie not too much commuting on hypersport, super sticky tyres) and they aren't 10yrs old, your old tyres can still grip and roll on their side almost like new. Maybe.

[Rowdy]

Exactly the same as my tyre, appears to be worse closer to the edge on both sides (no testing as I ride like an angel)

I had the Metzeler M5 Sportec's fitted on Saturday and they seem ok. Too early to tell. But, when the tyre fitter saw the split in the Conti, he said it's a 'cold tear' and very common. He's seen it on lots of different brands. Apparently happens when the bike is ridden hard with cold tyres. I just thought they'd let go if they're cold but anyway.....

Might go for a quick run on Sunday and report back on the M5's.

[Scoober1103]

hey ozmo's, my Dunlop Q2's are just about done and would certainly put another set straight back on as they have been the best set of tyres I have ridden on but after reading here and other reviews the Conti Sport Attack 2's look appealing also and are comparable in price to the Q2's!

The reason for considering another brand is purely longevity as my bike only just clicked over 9k last weekend and the Q2's are worn to the wear indicators and if I'm not mistaken they weren't fitted from factory so they are the second (at least) set for the bike!

Any more input from the guy's who have the Conti Sport Attack 2?

Cheers,

Scott

[Raux]

I know it's a little late, but as I'm reading these, I can't help but wonder what are the avg air temps for most of these people.
I mean I live in Germany were a day above 90 has people talking about hell on earth.
and the mornings are in the 40-50s IN THE SUMMER

[Betty]

I know it's a little late, but as I'm reading these, I can't help but wonder what are the avg air temps for most of these people.
I mean I live in Germany were a day above 90 has people talking about hell on earth.
and the mornings are in the 40-50s IN THE SUMMER

Our temperatures only tend to get above 40 by exception (in summer) ... but it is really too hot to be riding by then (fully geared up).

Of course we use a different temperature scale to you ... actually despite the German heritage of Daniel Fahrenheit I thought you guys would be using Celsius by now too

[Raux]

yes, yes. I drifted into a down under thread and didn't realize it.
C is the correct scale

[Betty]

yes, yes. I drifted into a down under thread and didn't realize it.
C is the correct scale

We do get some pretty wild swings in temperature ... and it is a big country. But its typical to say we are generally fair weather riders ... and more generalisations coming up:

For all but the coldest few months of the year you can probably find some riding in the 20s ... early and late in the day for summer when you can reasonably expect temps in the 30s for the middle of the day. Most will ride in spring and autumn when temps may be in the teens. Temps in single digits (primarily winter) will keep most bikes tucked up in the shed with a blankie early and late on the shorter winter days but peak temps in the teens are easily tolerable.

Mid to High 30s in summer only works for short periods - particularly with full gear - heat stroke and dehydration are real concerns. This is also when your tyres cop a pounding.

[heatherp]

Question:  I now have a 180/55 Pilot road 3 on the rear. Power Pure on the front. Took it for a ride yesterday up the Grampians to scrub in the sides.

Loved the front but the back feels 'squirmy' on exit from corners.  Tyre pressure is 36 psi.  No luggage on the bike, just me (63kg). I was on my own so riding like a nana - 2cm chicken strips as evidence.

Should I be running a higher pressure?

Is the squirminess something I'll just have to get used to?

Squirmy is a technical term - right? 

Loved the Conti Road attack 2 that I just destroyed on Turismo after only 5500kms. 

[dragonworld.]

We do get some pretty wild swings in temperature ... and it is a big country. But its typical to say we are generally fair weather riders ... and more generalisations coming up:

For all but the coldest few months of the year you can probably find some riding in the 20s ... early and late in the day for summer when you can reasonably expect temps in the 30s for the middle of the day. Most will ride in spring and autumn when temps may be in the teens. Temps in single digits (primarily winter) will keep most bikes tucked up in the shed with a blankie early and late on the shorter winter days but peak temps in the teens are easily tolerable.

Mid to High 30s in summer only works for short periods - particularly with full gear - heat stroke and dehydration are real concerns. This is also when your tyres cop a pounding.

Buncha "Fair Weather" girls blouses!! Ya buy 'em to ride 'em, hey Heather?? 

[heatherp]

Buncha "Fair Weather" girls blouses!! Ya buy 'em to ride 'em, hey Heather?? 

Think him talking about them Sydney mob bro. 

But I did choose drinking beer over riding in the deluge on day 3 of Turismo 

[mattyvas]

Squirmy is the technical term in deed Heather.

From my shorter experience on Pilot Pures (which are being pulled off the market) I would have thought that it'd be the front that was the tyre that would have the loose/vague feeling. Perhaps with tyre technology and manufactures trying lighter construction now days tyre pressures are having to move higher to compensate for lighter materials being used. 

[Betty]

Think him talking about them Sydney mob bro. 

Nah, simply noting that most of us ride because we want to - not because we have to.

Case in point:

But I did choose drinking beer over riding in the deluge on day 3 of Turismo 

I was tempted to point that out but was overcome by uncustomary politeness.

[heatherp]

Nah, simply noting that most of us ride because we want to - not because we have to.

Case in point:

I was tempted to point that out but was overcome by uncustomary politeness.

That's why I posted it Betty.  Before you could. 

Well I just put more air in the tyre (40psi!) and it feels a bit better.  It still squirms just a little when accelerating out of a corner.  I think it's something I can get used to.
Someone has made the comment that it may have something to do with the groovy tread pattern.  Which to my mind is feasible.

[braando]

Heather, your tyre on the back is fairly new right...?
I'd say that it needs 100 or so k's on it to scrub it in and take the smoothness off it. With the Contis (both road and sport) they need little of this as they already feel rough.
The new Contis on my Monster felt great from the very day I put them on but the new Dunlops on the MV are a different story, felt a tad slippery for a good 50k's.  My son in law has the pilots on his Buell and loves them.

[PAUL M]

The new Dunlops on the MV are a different story, felt a tad slippery for a good 50k's.  

 should have seen the first twenty in the wet