If anyone would like to help with my surgery costs that would be great. I simply dont have enough after my rent( I rent a 10x10 room,its nothing fancy) ,child support and car ins to get this done.......and I am working about 60 hours a week.I will sell my car and by a used bicycle from Craigslist and put the car money/ins costs toward surgery.I am half way there!
Anyway, if you can help me out a bit, I would really appreciate it.
http://funds.gofundme.com/1jzy4 (http://funds.gofundme.com/1jzy4)
Thanks everyone and Happy Holidays.
Erica.
PS You can donate anytime in any amount, I know everyone is broke this time of year!
What kind of surgery do you need?
Sorry. Didn't think to click. I'd delete my post but you repeated it. My sincere apology.
Good luck with your fundraising efforts. [thumbsup] Merry Christmas to you!
Done [thumbsup]
Excuse me for asking - I'm a little confused - is this an appropriate occasion for the classic "this thread is worthless without pictures" :o
....or not? ??? 8)
Quote from: stopintime on December 22, 2010, 10:40:40 AM
Done [thumbsup]
Excuse me for asking - I'm a little confused - is this an appropriate occasion for the classic "this thread is worthless without pictures" :o
....or not? ??? 8)
I think not [thumbsdown]
Best of luck in reaching your goal. [thumbsup]
Erica,
Oh holy crap I haven't laughed as hard as when i saw oldfastwin ask what it was for and Derb cough in reply.
[cheeky]
Erica, i wish you the best. The holidays have me tapped out right now.
Keep your chin up and I wish you a very Merry Christmas!
It will all come to pass as it should.
M
Again, I don't mind looking stupid on the world wide web. I'm used to it. [laugh] Hope my stupid question caused no offense. Just wish derby had PM'd me instead!! [laugh] But then again, he probably liked doing it that way! Zing!! [thumbsup]
I hope you find happiness.
honestly.
but
carve up your body when you have the $.
I'll fund starving children whose parents make the beast with two backsed up like I did last year.
asking for money for personal shit should allways be embarrassing and not encouraged.
fall of Rome indeed.
edit: zero forum mod or admin content... completely personal.
Quote from: Statler on December 22, 2010, 04:21:28 PM
I hope you find happiness.
honestly.
but
carve up your body when you have the $.
I'll fund starving children whose parents make the beast with two backsed up like I did last year.
asking for money for personal shit should allways be embarrassing and not encouraged.
fall of Rome indeed.
This isn't charity, it's personal.
IMO two entirely different things.
Quote from: stopintime on December 22, 2010, 04:35:41 PM
This isn't charity, it's personal.
IMO two entirely different things.
I think Webster would disagree with you on that
Quote from: Mother on December 22, 2010, 04:38:28 PM
I think Webster would disagree with you on that
Webster?
Quote from: stopintime on December 22, 2010, 04:41:32 PM
Webster?
#9
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/Charity?cx=partner-pub-0939450753529744%3Av0qd01-tdlq&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=Charity&sa=Search#922 (http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/Charity?cx=partner-pub-0939450753529744%3Av0qd01-tdlq&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=Charity&sa=Search#922)
[popcorn]
Charity should be one of the last words that gets vilified
what would folk rather do
give blindly to the ringa-ding-ding tweaker standing at the door of the mall
or
someone you know and talk to daily?
Personally I disagree with cosmetic surgery (so many perfect breasts destroyed [bang] )
but
who better?
Hmmm... "the needy or suffering" is not how I see this.
I understand that it can be seen as something other than what I see it as,
but I compare it to a kid asking for money for his birthday, so he can buy what
he really wants, with the smaller cash gifts combined.
So, it's not going to raise money that was otherwise going to be donated to the "needy or suffering".
It's only going to be personal gifts (hopefully in addition to charities)
YMMV
:)
Quote from: Statler on December 22, 2010, 04:21:28 PM
I'll fund starving children whose parents make the beast with two backsed up like I did last year.
how, exactly, did you make the beast with two backs up last year? ;D
Quote from: derby on December 22, 2010, 05:08:02 PM
how, exactly, did you make the beast with two backs up last year? ;D
G can provide a list.
grammar smart ass.
Quote from: derby on December 22, 2010, 05:08:02 PM
how, exactly, did you make the beast with two backs up last year? ;D
Quote from: Statler on December 22, 2010, 05:14:34 PM
G can provide a list.
grammar smart ass.
Who was it that said punctuation and spelling don't count? [evil]
Quote from: Mother on December 22, 2010, 04:56:17 PM
Personally I disagree with cosmetic surgery (so many perfect breasts destroyed [bang] )
This is not cosmetic surgery that people do because they are shallow and like the look of any innie rather than an outtie. Think about how strongly
you would have to feel about what you are doing for
you to undergo voluntary surgery. On your penis.
Quote from: stopintime on December 22, 2010, 04:57:09 PM
I compare it to a kid asking for money for his birthday, so he can buy what
he really wants, with the smaller cash gifts combined.
This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read. Ever. I can't quite devine what you intent was here but your analogy is terrible. Literally a life time of thought and anguish has gone into this decision. Don't trivialize it.
sac
Quote from: Sắc Dục on December 22, 2010, 05:18:45 PM
Literally a life time of thought and anguish has gone into this decision. Don't trivialize it.
sac
don't glorify it either.
We've read posts here about how absolutely horrible divorce lawyers are for the trauma inflicted and money spent.... I bet the spouse looked at it from a different view.
personal issues shouldn't be public fodder.
Quote from: Statler on December 22, 2010, 05:25:22 PM
personal issues shouldn't be public fodder.
Are you new here?
[cheeky]
sac
Quote from: Sắc Dục on December 22, 2010, 05:18:45 PM
.......
This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read. Ever. I can't quite devine what you intent was here but your analogy is terrible. Literally a life time of thought and anguish has gone into this decision. Don't trivialize it.
sac
I understand the situation and I support BGB's plan.
My intent is not to trivialize it.
I do not mean it as an analogy at all.
What I was trying to say was that BGB is asking for small gifts which put together will get her what she wants.
OK?
Quote from: stopintime on December 22, 2010, 05:31:22 PM
I understand the situation and I support BGB's plan.
My intent is not to trivialize it.
I do not mean it as an analogy at all.
What I was trying to say was that BGB is asking for small gifts which put together will get her what she wants.
OK?
yup.
it's a pretty cool group here and we find support in often surprising places for often surprising things.
I like the DMF.
cheers to you all for even our disagreements. [beer]
Quote from: stopintime on December 22, 2010, 05:31:22 PM
I understand the situation and I support BGB's plan.
My intent is not to trivialize it.
I do not mean it as an analogy at all.
What I was trying to say was that BGB is asking for small gifts which put together will get her what she wants.
OK?
Ah. Okay. Got it. Sorry for jumping down your throat there. The misunderstanding was mine. [beer]
sac
Quote from: Statler on December 22, 2010, 04:21:28 PM
I hope you find happiness.
honestly.
but
carve up your body when you have the $.
I'll fund starving children whose parents make the beast with two backsed up like I did last year.
asking for money for personal shit should allways be embarrassing and not encouraged.
fall of Rome indeed.
edit: zero forum mod or admin content... completely personal.
Gotta say I pretty much agree. I don't understand the sense of urgency, but I'd be the first to acknowledge most of us wouldn't truly understand much of what she's dealing with.
With regard to trivializing her issue, I think the point that was being made was that in comparison to issues like starvation, this issue pales in comparison, as important as it is to her personally. That comparison trivializes the truly critical issues in this world.
I definitely hope everything turns out well, but I have a limited amount of funds to contribute to help others. I prioritize my giving, and issues such as food, shelter, and literacy will always take precedence for me.
But I wish her well for sure.
Joel
Quote from: Sắc Dục on December 22, 2010, 05:40:14 PM
Ah. Okay. Got it. Sorry for jumping down your throat there. The misunderstanding was mine. [beer]
sac
Thanks [beer]
(if you're not careful, I'll Greek you again ;))
It's good you're not asking for donations for an engagement ring. ;D
Not poking fun, just reminiscing about another thread in the not too distant past. ;)
Really?! For cosmetic surgery?
I wish you the best of luck but I guess I just don't understand what you are going through. I feel that there are so many others out there that need so much more.
May you live a happy and healthy life.
Charlie
Quote from: Stinky Wizzleteats on December 22, 2010, 06:35:03 PM
It's good you're not asking for donations for an engagement ring. ;D
Not poking fun, just reminiscing about another thread in the not too distant past. ;)
Fellow Ducatisti/DMLers...please help me.
I have just recently become engaged to a wonderful girl (who supports my Ducati habit whole heartedly). I bought her engagement ring, and was expecting to be able to pay off about half of the ring up front, and pay the rest off when I could.
I'm a full time college student (taking 20 hours), and am working on acquiring my commercial pilot's license which is required for me to graduate and receieve my degree, so I have no time to work, even on weekends.
This is hard for me to admit, but I would rather swallow my pride and ask for help than have my fiancee lose her engagement ring because I'm not able to make the payments for it.
I am asking that you donate at least $1 and no more than $5 (unless you really want to give more, then feel free to do so).
Let's do the math here: $1 x 8000 = paid off. $2 x 4000 = paid off. $3 x 2667 = paid off. $4 x 2000 = paid off. $5 x 1600 = paid off.
If you feel that you are willing/able to donate some amount between $1 and $5, please send me a PM, and I'll send you the email account that my paypal is linked to. ;D
I remember that! And people were not do nice to him.
Quote from: Charlief on December 22, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
Really?! For cosmetic surgery?
nope.
Quote from: Charlief on December 22, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
I wish you the best of luck but I guess I just don't understand what you are going through.
yup.
(you may wanna go back and re-read the WHOLE thread... including the link in the first post.)
I put in what I can now, Erica. It's not much, but every little bit...
Folks, let's take it easy on Erica. I'm sure all this has been a very difficult time that many of us cannot fathom. Including me. I can only imagine.
I'm aware of her struggles with her sexuality. It's something she's not going to die from....
Quote from: Charlief on December 22, 2010, 07:09:14 PM
I'm aware of her struggles with her sexuality. It's something she's not going to die from....
it's also not a "cosmetic surgery".
Quote from: Stinky Wizzleteats on December 22, 2010, 06:35:03 PM
It's good you're not asking for donations for an engagement ring. ;D
Not poking fun, just reminiscing about another thread in the not too distant past. ;)
Oh my God, you didn't have to bring that up did you? DFB took an ass whooping over that one!! Jeez, I'd forgotten about that. [bang] It was distant enough. Seems like that never worked out anyway. Oh well...
Damn, didn't know my initial faux pas regarding the surgery would produce such thought provoking posts. I'm sad to see that BGB has never responded to any of this. It makes me wonder how she is taking all the attention (pro and con) to her request. I'm the original calloused asshole but I wonder how this thread and the way it's going effects her thoughts about even posting the request for funds. Just hope things work out well for her and peace and happiness are just around the corner. [thumbsup]
Quote from: oldfastwin on December 22, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
Damn, didn't know my initial faux pas regarding the surgery would produce such thought provoking posts. I'm sad to see that BGB has never responded to any of this. It makes me wonder how she is taking all the attention (pro and con) to her request. I'm the original calloused asshole but I wonder how this thread and the way it's going effects her thoughts about even posting the request for funds. Just hope things work out well for her and peace and happiness are just around the corner. [thumbsup]
I think the upside is that people are debating whether it is proper to ask for donations for something that is of a more personal benefit (seen as unnecessary by some) than a societal benefit (such as feeding the children, saving the whales, etc.) and NOT deriding her for making this choice. There are a lot of forums where people would be debating whether or not she is going to hell. Which is sad.
Even you stingy make the beast with two backsers and enlightened. I'm so proud. ;D
sac
Quote from: sbrguy on December 22, 2010, 06:04:15 PM
exactly everyone must decide for themselves what they want to prioritize.
nobody should judge what one person may find important compared to what someone else considers important to them.
afterall one person's priority is another persons piece of sh%t.
So if I asked for donations to pay off my Challenger SRT8 that would be okay? It's important to me that I get it paid off. Yeah, I didn't think so.
I agree with Statler. Stuff like unforeseen financially devastating medical payments due to accidents, group wedding gifts for DMF long time members, pay if forward, kids that want to eat dinner, etc. That stuff belongs on the DMF. Elective surgery? Maybe not.
Quote from: Sắc Dục on December 22, 2010, 09:02:55 PM
...a societal benefit (such as feeding the children, saving the whales, etc.)...
I modestly propose that we save the whales by feeding them the children. In doing so, we would not only save the whales, but eliminate the epidemic of starving children.
Quote from: hbliam on December 22, 2010, 09:29:11 PM
So if I asked for donations to pay off my Challenger SRT8 that would be okay? It's important to me that I get it paid off. Yeah, I didn't think so.
I agree with Statler. Stuff like unforeseen financially devastating medical payments due to accidents, group wedding gifts for DMF long time members, pay if forward, kids that want to eat dinner, etc. That stuff belongs on the DMF. Elective surgery? Maybe not.
Yeah, it would be OK. Just don't expect anyone to contribute.
It's just my opinion here so take it as you will but give or don't give based on your feelings. But leave the discussion out of it because half of you are coming across as heartless douchebags who wouldn't have a make the beast with two backsing clue in hell what Erica is going through and the other half are coming across as caring individuals who whether they agree with the method or not can at least appreciate how hard it must be for someone to open up their entire soul to this bunch of miscreants.
I have my opinion on the subject but I won't air it here. I will simply wish Erica the best in reaching her goals and godspeed.
Quote from: sbrguy on December 22, 2010, 10:31:28 PM
if you want, ask for payments for your srt8, that is fine with me. I don't have a problem with that at all. It doesn't mean that anyone will give you anything but maybe someone will. who knows?
But i'm also not saying that your needs aren't important to you. i'm saying everyone donates to what they feel is important but that person's opinion is not the GOSPEL on what is deserving of charity, that is up to each person to decide. and vilifying someone for saying that their important priority to them is "not deserving" is basically bs.
as far as giving money for "save the whales, save the poor kid, save the cripple, give me money because my parents are dying of a disease, etc" you can decide on your own if you want to donate to any of those things, as it is your right, just like if i asked you to pay off my house, you can do it or you do not have to do it. its up to you.
but saying "my that my priorities are MORE acceptable or better charity" is your judgement call on what you prioritize, it doesn't mean that I have to agree that its a BETTER thing more deserving of charity than what i feel is deserving.
Word.
<mod hat>
Let's keep it civil please. There hasn't been any name calling per-se, but including the phrase "coming across like heartless douchebags" doesn't really ring in the holiday cheer.
Thanks
</mod hat>
Speaking for myself (and not as a mod), chiming in on someone's "I need some help" thread about how they aren't going to help..
Reminds me of the kibitzers in people's For Sale threads: Don't like it? Don't buy it. But it's just rude in my book to yammer on about how you don't like it, or it costs too much.
Quote from: Sắc Dục on December 22, 2010, 05:18:45 PM
This is not cosmetic surgery that people do because they are shallow and like the look of any innie rather than an outtie. Think about how strongly you would have to feel about what you are doing for you to undergo voluntary surgery. On your penis.
sac
For the record I was voting in support of Erica
But
Since you want to talk down to me, let me respond
I disagree strongly with any surgical adjustments to what mother nature gives an individual
However, regardless of the perspective that I view an issue from
I also feel just as strongly that an individual has the right to do as they damn well please with what mother nature gave them.
Just because I have an opinion on a subject does not mean that I wish to stop the actions of folk with different opinions than my own or that I do not support them in their differing opinion.
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on December 22, 2010, 11:09:03 PM
<mod hat>
Let's keep it civil please. There hasn't been any name calling per-se, but including the phrase "coming across like heartless douchebags" doesn't really ring in the holiday cheer.
Thanks
</mod hat>
Speaking for myself (and not as a mod), chiming in on someone's "I need some help" thread about how they aren't going to help..
Reminds me of the kibitzers in people's For Sale threads: Don't like it? Don't buy it. But it's just rude in my book to yammer on about how you don't like it, or it costs too much.
First of all, ban me if you want but until any one of us walks a mile in the shoes of someone suffering from gender identity issues, NONE of us and I mean Mod or lowly little non-mod peon poster expressing an opinion alike can even remotely know what this person is going through. Belittling their methods of funding what very well could be a life saving surgery(ever hear of suicide? it happens when people feel like they don't belong anywhere in this world as they are and is a well known and tragic side effect of gender identity issues) is truly douchey no matter what spin you try to put on it.
As for the second part of your post, precisely my point. Like mama used to say, if you don't have anything nice (or productive) to say then people just need to stfu and move on. Don't believe in the cause, whatever it may be, then don't donate. But don't take the holier than thou mentality as if you(everyone not anyone in particular) or anyone knows better than this person's psychiatric team, doctors and counselors.
Erica...
good luck.
To the rest, I don't think Erica intended for this to be a discussion about anything...we all had our chance in her other thread.
Give if you want/can...don't if you don't want to/can't.