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The human (cager) eye can't easily see how fast a bike is moving, when coming directly towards them.
Our eyes need a larger surface to make it easier. I plan to enlarge my visual appearance by adding small BikeVis LED lights.

Preferably they should be far apart and away from the headlight (not easy!)
So far, the only place I can see is the forks, below the lower triple.....
Handle bars would be another option.....

If you have any input, please tell me [thumbsup]

The second issue with these, is of course how to mount them ???
Their wire comes out of their mounting surface, so a small hole is required.
They are stick on type lights - adhesive tape.
I have found a small clamp, but it doesn't look very nice.... Other ideas? (I have no machining/fabrication possibilities)

(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/blinkerpod.jpg)

(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/bullets.jpg)

I've been trying to figure out the same solution since I learned of these.  I thought maybe some place on the 'shoulders' of the bikini fairing, but there isn't really a space flat enough and far enough away from the headlight to matter.

Something down lower, maybe, to give that triangle of lights that is recommended?  Sides of the airbox maybe?  But I don't think they'd stick out far enough.

I have stock blinkers, I was thinking of drilling a hole in the stalk and sticking them to the top of that, running the wire through the stalk.

Blinker stalks was one of my first thoughts too, but it would be quite close to the headlight.

Fork bottoms could be a solution, but an unsprung location that close to the ground?

I suppose the air deflector mounting bolts could hold a flat piece of metal, sticking out......

common place is to muont them by the forks, it makes a triangular shape and it illuminates the road, but it looks horrifying.

You're better of with a modulating headlamp. That will catch their attention for sure!

Blinker stalks is a convenient mounting point for the triangle of light.... but I hear that if you mount such eye-catching lights so very close to your turn signals, that this then detracts from the visibility of your turn signals themselves.  So yeah, they saw you but they didnt notice that you intended to turn  [bang].

How about mounting em on the end of some appropriate bar ends?  Or underslung the bar ends?

He Man, these lights wont illuminate any road.  They're intended to increase your visibility to others, not for the rider's better night vision.  They're very small but seem pretty effective.  I thought about em... but got too lazy to figure out where I'd mount em  [laugh].

Didn't think about the blinker-cancelling effect.

I know myself well enough to know that all the hassle of customizing bar ends and wiring from there = not likely :-\
, but it is a very good idea and probably the best place for them - both concerning form and function.

What does "underslung bar ends" mean?

stick one on each side of your helmet  8)

i think the LED bar-end type would be the biggest visual impact (oberon,kellerman)

Helmet? If they didn't need electricity - I'd be happy to put them there.

Led bar ends could be modified to be ON all the time, yes? Could add the PodMod modulator too...
The amber color might confuse cagers ??? Any white-LED bar end blinkers, with optional clear lens?

...hmmm... there is room inside my stock blinkers (clear lens). Still not the best position though...

wanna make it super complicated? add a little windpowered turbine with a mini battery!

Link?

 ;D

i wonder, what is the viewing angle on them?  If you don't need to see them straight on, that opens up some more possibilities.


other mounting point, maybe on the clutch/brake master, altho I don't think that's any wider than the turn signals.


If the wire came out the back that'd give more options too.

The viewing angle is quite wide - I remember reading so somewhere.
Probably best straight on, but I'm going to check that before I rule out any angled mounting ideas.

There's also under the electric-controls-box, but still at an angle though and not very far from the headlight.

I guess it's possible to cut the adhesive tape to allow a side-/rear exit for the wires.

*To get the best use out of these, I think the largest and widest triangle is top priority.
  - which leaves the fork, bar ends, mirrors and ......

*It bothers me a lot that these lights will deduct some serious style points (what's next - a bright vest?), but I'm
  willing to mount them anyway. Even though I'm very good at reading traffic - there is no protection against the
  unattentive cagers crossing my path. Hitting a car straight on is my nightmare.

Beklager Lars, min Engelsk språk ferdigheter er dårlige  ;).

Mounted to the underside of the bar ends.  Could be a little more discrete than on the end of em?

 ;D

My Rizoma or STM bar ends could be made flat for an underslung mount, but a tidy wiring job will be a challenge.
Jeff mentioned the Oberon and Kellerman blinker bar ends. The Oberon would need other LEDs, the Kellerman would need other lenses - I'm going to look into that. Even if these were modified - they would be at a clip-on angle, which might not be ideal....

Any luck?  I purchased the same thing and am leaning towards mounting them on the masters

Any guide to wiring them?

 :)

Get an appropriate size for the section of the forks that you're mounting them on, available at a home depot:

(http://www.elecdirect.com/images/pageheaders/RubberInsulatedCableClamps.jpg)

Where on the masters? I haven't mounted mine yet, but I'm still trying to find a way to mount on the fork.
Besides the supplied instructions, Webbikeworld has a long review on the bullets and the PodMod modulator.
I plan to splice into the small parking light wires.



Thanks - could work, but I'd be surprised if they remained flat enough to mount the LED on. The securing bolt might also get in the way of the light......

Well, the signal light is threaded on the end of the stalk with a nut right? I believe the clamp that big has the hole fairly large...

If not, you just need some short aluminum stock, maybe 2 inches, to go downwards, and bolt on the signals.

Ok - this is for BikeVis LED bullet lights - not turn signal lights.
They glue on a flat surface (about an inch long) with a center hole for the wires.

something like this of any use?  >>  http://www.motostrano.com/cltusimo.html (http://www.motostrano.com/cltusimo.html)

sorry, I thought they were the ones in the first picture. My suggestion still stands, you could cut some small aluminum stock, bolt it to the clamps, bolt on the outside of t forks, and put a small 90 degree bend forwar or back to fit the lights.

You're right - I can do that with both clamp versions.
Are "yours" stainless?

No, they are zinc electroplated steel. Stainless would be too brittle to allow the clamp to flex.

I use the clamps as headlight bracket mounts and so far they've been rust free.

I took another look at some photos (bike is not here) and found another solution.
(take a look at your bike and tell me if I'm wrong)

The air deflector plate, under the lower triple, sticks half way out behind the fork (right?).
If I can find a piece of metal, paint it and glue/bolt it on there - twist it to horisontal and stick the bullets to the ends -
it might even hide them a bit more (not looking quite so ugly)

Is this an idea?

As far as sticking them to the reservoirs goes, if yours are any where as leaky as mine (even after new seals) they probably won't stick too well. 

Found a place, had 2mm aluminum brackets made, bolted down and spent some time connecting.
I can tell by the level of attention that they work as advertized [thumbsup]

(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/DrevogBikeVis004.jpg)

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Is there any reason you shouldn't clamp lights to the bars of the trestle frame? obviously out of the way of the front end's radius, but that's about as wide as you could get. I'm looking into getting or making clamps to put some PIAA LEDs  there on my monster... I wanted more light and something that tracked with the frame, not the front end.

It's common to want them in the direction you're turning, but maybe it doesn't matter much...

My lights are not there for better viewing - they're there to be seen, so it's important to make the light triangle as wide as possible.