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Title: Fountain Fall
Post by: He Man on January 20, 2011, 11:15:14 AM
This is so dumb....

http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/fountain-lady-nobody-went-to-my-aid-23909987 (http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/fountain-lady-nobody-went-to-my-aid-23909987)
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Oldfisti on January 20, 2011, 11:35:15 AM
"Yes I learned a valuable lesson from all this.  If you do something rediculously stupid that is

100% your own fault, there is still always someone else to blame and/or sue."



[bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: cbartlett419 on January 20, 2011, 11:37:24 AM
 [laugh] dumb pregnant dog quit make the beast with two backsing with your phone and WATCH WHERE YOU ARE WALKING
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Jaman on January 20, 2011, 11:47:48 AM
we need a tad more chlorine for the gene pool...
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: sno_duc on January 20, 2011, 11:48:19 AM
Everybody remember next spring when we dust off the bikes and start riding again. The cars around you are being driven by people just like her.  :o
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Oldfisti on January 20, 2011, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: sno_duc on January 20, 2011, 11:48:19 AM
Everybody remember next spring when we dust off the bikes and start riding again. The cars around you are being driven by people just like her.  :o


This was at the Berkshire Mall in Lanesboro, Mass. less than an hour from me.

I'm specifically worried about the car being driven by HER.



*edit*  - this happened in Reading, Pa so I can feel a little safer out there on the roads
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: slowpoke13 on January 20, 2011, 12:09:59 PM
maybe I should sue her for having to deal with the constant reminders of her stupidity.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Oldfisti on January 20, 2011, 12:18:19 PM
Quote from: slowpoke13 on January 20, 2011, 12:09:59 PM
maybe I should sue her for having to deal with the constant reminders of her stupidity.


It would be no more/less valid than whatever her and her lawyer have up their sleeve.


I say go for it.     [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: erkishhorde on January 20, 2011, 12:31:47 PM
Idiot. Wish it were spikes in the fountain.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: fastwin on January 20, 2011, 12:31:53 PM
Isn't this a derby? Didn't I see this already on another thread? Not the ABC News story of it but the mall security video with the security guys laughing at her off screen. I even posted about her probably still texting as she drove away from the mall and how scary that is. Anyone else remember the thread??
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: zooom on January 20, 2011, 12:32:31 PM
I can't veiw the O.P.'s link due to filter at work but it sounds like the video I posted 2 days ago here..

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=45779.msg829133#msg829133 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=45779.msg829133#msg829133)
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: fastwin on January 20, 2011, 12:33:39 PM
Yep, I just found it and was getting ready to credit zooom! [thumbsup]

Still a complete dumbshit and now she has a lawyer? make the beast with two backs her. >:( Hope she gets abducted by aliens and gets anally probed the rest of her life! >:(
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Triple J on January 20, 2011, 12:34:29 PM
Quote from: Jaman on January 20, 2011, 11:47:48 AM
we need a tad more chlorine for the gene pool...

+1

Her lawyer needs a swift kick to the nads. The interviewer needs to be smacked as well...he should have asked them who the hell they thought they could sue seeing as it was her own stupidity.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: slowpoke13 on January 20, 2011, 12:37:48 PM
Quote from: Triple J on January 20, 2011, 12:34:29 PM
+1

Her lawyer needs a swift kick to the nads. The interviewer needs to be smacked as well...he should have asked them who the hell they thought they could sue seeing as it was her own stupidity.

It was freaking good morning america. They ask 12 year olds harder questions. It's all fluff anyway.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: erkishhorde on January 20, 2011, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: Triple J on January 20, 2011, 12:34:29 PM
+1

Her lawyer needs a swift kick to the nads. The interviewer needs to be smacked as well...he should have asked them who the hell they thought they could sue seeing as it was her own stupidity.

She's suing for the embarrassment, not the safety of the fountain. But during the interview she tries to give an emotional story about how nobody helped her. What was she expecting? A life guard for the fountain? Even if the security guard saw her fall in on the camera, she probably ran away out of embarrassment before he got there. She says that one of her friends says that they saw her on youtube but I can't see how anyone could identify her from that vid. If she didn't say anything then nobody would have known it was her. All the embarrassment she's "suffering" from is made up. Nobody knew it was her and nobody was laughing specifically at her until she spoke up and declared that she was an idiot.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: rgramjet on January 20, 2011, 01:03:44 PM
Quote from: erkishhorde on January 20, 2011, 12:31:47 PM
Idiot. Wish it were spikes in the fountain.

Or piranhas!
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: sno_duc on January 20, 2011, 01:20:48 PM
[Dr. Evil voice] mutant seabass with lasers on the heads.....Bawhahaha [/Dr. Evil voice]
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Triple J on January 20, 2011, 01:37:04 PM
Quote from: erkishhorde on January 20, 2011, 12:53:24 PM
She says that one of her friends says that they saw her on youtube but I can't see how anyone could identify her from that vid. If she didn't say anything then nobody would have known it was her. All the embarrassment she's "suffering" from is made up. Nobody knew it was her and nobody was laughing specifically at her until she spoke up and declared that she was an idiot.

Exactly.

Plus...I don't think a person can expect privacy when in a public place. Meaning anyone can take a video of some dumb ass walking through the mall and post it on the web and there isn't anything the person can do about it since it's from a public place. Ducatiz? Spidey?
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: zooom on January 20, 2011, 01:39:54 PM
the only potential issue, as I can closely figure, would be the release of the security cam footage in the format/forum that is was done so in....not that she'd benefit from that...
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: slowpoke13 on January 20, 2011, 01:44:06 PM
I can see the mall cops getting fired/reprimanded. But, that's petty anyway.

And she CAN sue. The mall, security firm, or whomever she sues will likely settle as it's better than "bad press" or litigation.

That's the perpetual downward spiral that encourages more and more people to sue over dumb shit. If a company would just stand up and say "go ahead, sue - you got no case and you'll go broke trying," it might discourage the practice and cause the ambulance chasing lawyers to stop running with every nutball case.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: muskrat on January 20, 2011, 02:10:34 PM
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope the judge rules against her and makes her pay the defendant's fee and all court costs. 
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Drunken Monkey on January 20, 2011, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: muskrat on January 20, 2011, 02:10:34 PM
I hope the judge rules against her and makes her pay the defendant's fee and all court costs. 

No offense to the fine upstanding member of the legal profession, but if they made lawyers have some more skin the in game (besides their time) these types of lawsuits might be less common.

i.e. The lawyer gets 30% of any "winnings" but also has to pay 30% of any penalties.

Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: the_Journeyman on January 20, 2011, 02:52:43 PM
Holy cow.  I can't fathom the lack of personal responsibility that this person has.

JM
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Drjones on January 20, 2011, 03:15:17 PM
Quote from: sno_duc on January 20, 2011, 11:48:19 AM
Everybody remember next spring when we dust off the bikes and start riding again. The cars around you are being driven by people just like her.  :o

A scarier thought is that they also vote.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: fastwin on January 20, 2011, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: slowpoke13 on January 20, 2011, 01:44:06 PM
That's the perpetual downward spiral that encourages more and more people to sue over dumb shit. If a company would just stand up and say "go ahead, sue - you got no case and you'll go broke trying," it might discourage the practice and cause the ambulance chasing lawyers to stop running with every nutball case.

No shit!!! [clap] [clap]

Wasn't there an ancient Chinese law that says if you wrongly claim something against someone and it's proven to not be true/lie/made up etc. in court then whatever punishment may befall the accused would in turn now happen to you? As in if the punishment were dismemberment of a hand or limb and you lost in court then off goes your limb or hand. Am I just dreaming in colors or was there something like that? So if the mall, security, etc. says make the beast with two backs you and she sues them and looses can I push her in the fountain of piranhas?? Huh, can I please? Huh, can I? Can I??? Ah come on!! Please??? ;D [popcorn]
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: stopintime on January 20, 2011, 03:39:51 PM
I'm in Europe watching this, laughing so hard....
It could have happened here as well, but sueing over it [bang] [bang]
Why the f*** didn't she just keep quiet [roll]
Is it that important to get on TV ???
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: fastwin on January 20, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
Everyone's right. If she had stayed off TV news NO ONE would have known who it was!! Dumbass!! [bang] But even she admitted it was funny. And the whole BS about no one coming to her aid and no one considered her feelings just make me want to  [puke]. I'd give the security staff the day off and a round of drinks at happy hour! Does that make me a bad person? [laugh]

So they want an apology? OK. I'm sorry you're a dumbass! [cheeky]
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: rgramjet on January 20, 2011, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: oldfastwin on January 20, 2011, 03:30:26 PM
No shit!!! [clap] [clap]

Wasn't there an ancient Chinese law that says if you wrongly claim something against someone and it's proven to not be true/lie/made up etc. in court then whatever punishment may befall the accused would in turn now happen to you? As in if the punishment were dismemberment of a hand or limb and you lost in court then off goes your limb or hand. Am I just dreaming in colors or was there something like that? So if the mall, security, etc. says make the beast with two backs you and she sues them and looses can I push her in the fountain of piranhas?? Huh, can I please? Huh, can I? Can I??? Ah come on!! Please??? ;D [popcorn]

You May........as long as I can videotape it!
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: junior varsity on January 20, 2011, 04:49:43 PM
good god, let a jury hear this.

she'll get the emotional issues of having an additional 6-12 people laughing their asses off thanks to her.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: He Man on January 20, 2011, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: stopintime on January 20, 2011, 03:39:51 PM

Is it that important to get on TV ???


yes.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Scotzman on January 20, 2011, 05:41:18 PM
Quote from: muskrat on January 20, 2011, 02:10:34 PM
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope the judge rules against her and makes her pay the defendant's fee and all court costs. 
And pay to clean the fountain.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: slowpoke13 on January 20, 2011, 07:05:07 PM
yeah. Shouldn't the mall fine her and make her pay to drain and clean the fountain? I'm sure there are signs that say "keep out."

And it would never make it to court. Which is a shame. Any company is just going to bend over to make it go away and we'll never hear about it.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: erkishhorde on January 20, 2011, 09:11:50 PM
I wonder if we can get reddit or 4chan to show her what real embarrassment is now that she's revealed her identity. I'm sure they could dig up an email and mailing address for everyone to plaster her obscenities. At least then her law suit would have some validity.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: IZ on January 20, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Quote from: stopintime on January 20, 2011, 03:39:51 PM
I'm in Europe watching this, laughing so hard....
It could have happened here as well, but sueing over it [bang] [bang]

I'm sure you are!!   

This country is a f*cking joke!
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: stopintime on January 21, 2011, 03:51:58 AM
Quote from: IZ on January 20, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
I'm sure you are!!   

This country is a f*cking joke!

The U.S.A is in so many ways so great with quite a few outstanding individuals, but then someone always has to spoil it.
Let's blame the media [cheeky]
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: IZ on January 21, 2011, 05:05:10 AM
;)
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: dennisd on January 21, 2011, 06:32:41 AM
I know the possible lawsuit isn't about the safety of the fountain but is about the release of the video.  If she had just kept quiet, no one publicly would have known it was her.  She got embarrassed so she contacted an attorney.  Of course the attorney sees $$$$.

Now if it goes to court and she wins, the outcome will be all fountains will have to have "stupid people" fences around them.

I heard a rumor (of course I don't know if it's true or not) that a city in Europe actually pads the light posts on sidewalks because of idiots walking into them while texting.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: zooom on January 21, 2011, 06:42:01 AM
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=104&sid=2242837 (http://www.wtop.com/?nid=104&sid=2242837)

good observation piece on texting while walking...

Quote from: dennisd on January 21, 2011, 06:32:41 AM
Now if it goes to court and she wins, the outcome will be all fountains will have to have "stupid people" fences around them.

and then someone will impale themselves on said fence and there will be another ridiculous lawsuit about that....and all because people don't care to take responsibility for their own stupidity....and it has been this way since the ridiculous McDonalds Hot Coffee in your lap bullshit that made the most ridiculous of lawsuits possible and very public...because we allowed these types of individuals to cultivate their stupidity instead of letting natural selection cull the heard....sometimes I just feel like screaming at these morons "Gene Pool Lifeguard-Get Outta The Pool!!"...
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: junior varsity on January 21, 2011, 08:20:33 AM
Quote from: zooom on January 21, 2011, 06:42:01 AM
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=104&sid=2242837 (http://www.wtop.com/?nid=104&sid=2242837)

good observation piece on texting while walking...

and then someone will impale themselves on said fence and there will be another ridiculous lawsuit about that....and all because people don't care to take responsibility for their own stupidity....and it has been this way since the ridiculous McDonalds Hot Coffee in your lap bullshit that made the most ridiculous of lawsuits possible and very public...because we allowed these types of individuals to cultivate their stupidity instead of letting natural selection cull the heard....sometimes I just feel like screaming at these morons "Gene Pool Lifeguard-Get Outta The Pool!!"...

i agreed until you brought the mcdonalds hot coffee case. That's a huge misconception - mcdonalds was, as a cost saving measure, storing/serving coffee at near boiling high temperatures so that it stayed "fresh" longer. They had been reprimanded numerous times, but refused to comply to what the industry standard "safe temp" was. The coffee served to the woman was so hot the cup was practically un-hold-able, it fell in her lap, and the spilt coffee gave her 3rd degree burns to the genitals.

hot coffee is hot. i've spilt hot coffee on myself. never gotten anything close to 3rd degree burns before.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: junior varsity on January 21, 2011, 08:21:30 AM
http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm (http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants)
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: GAAN on January 21, 2011, 09:06:29 AM
Quote from: IZ on January 20, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
I'm sure you are!!   

That woman's decision is a f*cking joke!

fixed it for you

[thumbsup]
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Drjones on January 21, 2011, 10:17:43 AM
Quote from: a m on January 21, 2011, 08:20:33 AM
i agreed until you brought the mcdonalds hot coffee case. That's a huge misconception - mcdonalds was, as a cost saving measure, storing/serving coffee at near boiling high temperatures so that it stayed "fresh" longer. They had been reprimanded numerous times, but refused to comply to what the industry standard "safe temp" was. The coffee served to the woman was so hot the cup was practically un-hold-able, it fell in her lap, and the spilt coffee gave her 3rd degree burns to the genitals.

hot coffee is hot. i've spilt hot coffee on myself. never gotten anything close to 3rd degree burns before.


Hate to point it out no I don't, but the article you linked to states she intentionally placed the coffee cup between her legs so she could put creamer in it while sitting in a car.  I can see how that is totally safe and not prone to accidents.  [roll]

Personally, I've had 2nd degree burns from a coffee spill at work.  I was walking down the hall and tried squeezing past a "hallway conference" and one person turned right when I was moving by which resulted in his coffee cup greeting my arm.  I still have the burn scar and that was three years ago.  By you're reasoning I should sue my employer for providing the coffee too hot.  [roll]


In both cases it was the person's actions that caused/facilitated the accident.  Hot liquids are hot, so um yeah, pay make the beast with two backsing attention to what you're doing dumbass!
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: He Man on January 21, 2011, 10:35:13 AM
The coffee is suppose to be a certain temp by law.
By Law, McDonalds is at fault.

But i'm not saying she isnt a make the beast with two backsing tard either. cause weather its 190degrees or 150degrees, its make the beast with two backsing hot and it stains. nuff said.


Now, if I were the mall, I'd hire life guards and put them on the fountain on each side and enforce it highly for the first month as a joke. Then make a commercial about it and air it, also as a joke.

Have some make the beast with two backsing humor, you SHOULD be embarassed that you did that.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: junior varsity on January 21, 2011, 10:41:18 AM
you guys suck at reading comprehension.  the jury found her partially at fault for putting it between her legs - 20% her liability for poor placement, and 80% to mcdonalds for absurdly hot coffee in spite of previous warnings and burns.

Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: He Man on January 21, 2011, 10:51:05 AM
Quote from: a m on January 21, 2011, 10:41:18 AM
you guys suck at reading comprehension.  the jury found her partially at fault for putting it between her legs - 20% her liability for poor placement, and 80% to mcdonalds for absurdly hot coffee in spite of previous warnings and burns.



I read the whole, I just dont agree with it.

It should be more like 75% her fault and 25% McDonalds fault.

You do not need labels to tell you coffee is make the beast with two backsing hot. The cup was not so hot that you couldnt handle it, because if it was she would of never been able to hold it bring it to her lap etc. or it would of triggered some sort of common sense that the contents might be even make the beast with two backsing hotter.

They claimed that coffee at 160degrees burns you in 10 or so seconds. But she was in a car, she wouldnt of been able to remove her seat belt get out and take her pants off seeing how she was 60something years old. So regardless of how hot it was, it could of been 1,000 degrees, her actions was soley due to her own negligence. If it was 120degreees which wont burn you at all, she would of still spilled the coffee.

(http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/files/2011/01/you_re-doing-it-wrong.jpg)

And who the make the beast with two backs opens anything between their laps?
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: junior varsity on January 21, 2011, 10:56:32 AM
well the great part is that you'll be able to cast your vote differently when its your turn on a jury
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Drjones on January 21, 2011, 11:13:34 AM
Except that attorneys always strike those with common sense from the jury pools as fast as they can, so only dumb shits or those that lie during the voir dire ever get to serve.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: junior varsity on January 21, 2011, 11:15:26 AM
you've got a pretty jaded view of voir dire.   people are people, each of them has a different life experience.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: stopintime on January 21, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
Quote from: Drjones on January 21, 2011, 11:13:34 AM
Except that attorneys always strike those with common sense from the jury pools as fast as they can, so only dumb shits or those that lie during the voir dire ever get to serve.

So, the jury system isn't foolproof and fair  ???  Damn....
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: He Man on January 21, 2011, 11:42:44 AM
Quote from: stopintime on January 21, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
So, the jury system isn't foolproof and fair  ???  Damn....

actually the filtering process makes it pretty fair in my opinion. they try their best to let people who are unbiasis to the situation into the jury pool.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Triple J on January 21, 2011, 11:45:11 AM
Looks like she's familiar with lawyers...what a loser (as if we didn't know that).

http://blog.seattlepi.com/hottopics/archives/236470.asp (http://blog.seattlepi.com/hottopics/archives/236470.asp)

Quote from: He Man on January 21, 2011, 11:42:44 AM
actually the filtering process makes it pretty fair in my opinion. they try their best to let people who are unbiasis to the situation into the jury pool.

[laugh] In theory. It all depends on your perspective though (i.e. prosecutor or defendent). I'd say it's about as fair as it can be...but its far from perfect.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: Oldfisti on January 21, 2011, 12:00:50 PM
Quote from: Triple J on January 21, 2011, 11:45:11 AM
Looks like she's familiar with lawyers...what a loser (as if we didn't know that).

http://blog.seattlepi.com/hottopics/archives/236470.asp (http://blog.seattlepi.com/hottopics/archives/236470.asp)



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Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: He Man on January 21, 2011, 12:22:31 PM
Quote from: Triple J on January 21, 2011, 11:45:11 AM
Looks like she's familiar with lawyers...what a loser (as if we didn't know that).

http://blog.seattlepi.com/hottopics/archives/236470.asp (http://blog.seattlepi.com/hottopics/archives/236470.asp)

[laugh] In theory. It all depends on your perspective though (i.e. prosecutor or defendent). I'd say it's about as fair as it can be...but its far from perfect.

oh for sure, its far from perfect but its about as good as it gets without offending any party.


What dumbass married this women anyway? He must be equally dumb.
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: fastwin on January 21, 2011, 12:34:26 PM
Wow, she went from internationally famous dumbass to internationally famous DOUBLE DUMBASS!!!! [laugh] Hope there are no fountains in her jail. Doubt if anyone will come to her aid in jail either! [laugh]
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: zooom on January 21, 2011, 12:43:09 PM
Quote from: oldfastwin on January 21, 2011, 12:34:26 PM
Wow, she went from internationally famous dumbass to internationally famous DOUBLE DUMBASS!!!! [laugh] Hope there are no fountains in her jail. Doubt if anyone will come to her aid in jail either! [laugh]

she'll be famously showered in prison for her incredulousness of stupidity when she is the fountain of golden shower by all the alpha women inside....

somehow...I am just not entirely surpised to have read that...
Title: Re: Fountain Fall
Post by: DRKWNG on January 22, 2011, 10:25:38 AM
 [popcorn]