I just ordered a full exhaust for my bike. The company didn't offer carbon as an option for this particular configuration. I talked them into giving me a carbon can , but they won't warranty the can if it gets to hot. They just haven't tested it yet. Do you think I should be worried?
I don't see why. People have been running carbon cans for quite a while. Don't know about carbon, but fiberglass which is similar is good to over 2000 degrees.
The weak part of CF products is the epoxy resin. Many of them begin to distort around 200F. Some HT prepregs claim they can go to ~200C. Your can will be fine as long as the packing is ok. When it blows out (after many miles) and the hot exhaust hits the inside of the can, it will damage it. Probably will start at the inboard end, and you may be able to chop the damaged part off and keep riding. For now, enjoy it. [thumbsup]
alright you are going to have to pony up some photos for this one.
what did you order and why would the company be worried about the heat...
I've been looking for a 2-1 system for the 1100, unable to find one I was considering building one out of a hypermotard system. Then Ungeheuer posted this
(http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ducati/monster_1100/monster_1100_scarico_laterale_796_laterale_singolo_sc_project.jpg)
(http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ducati/monster_1100/ligne_complete_monster_796_1100_sc_project_2_1%20completo_collettori.jpg)
(http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ducati/monster_1100/Monster_1100_796_sc_project_2in1_exhaust_complete_scarico_laterale.jpg)
SC doesn't currently offer a carbon can for this system, but I talked them into giving me one. [evil]
Good job talking them into it! That is going to look very nice [thumbsup]
I wonder why they were concerned?
I'm excited......... I think it's a good deal too, under $1100 shipped for a full system. Some slip ons for this model are going for close to that. (http://serve.mysmiley.net/confused/confused0019.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-innocent-smileys.php)
You scored! [beer]
That's a great looking exhaust!
Quote from: DucNaked on February 03, 2011, 02:02:12 PM
I've been looking for a 2-1 system for the 1100, unable to find one I was considering building one out of a hypermotard system. Then Ungeheuer posted this
You're welcome ;D.
Ofcourse I like my Termi Full System. I like it lots. But..... if I was making the decision over again today..... I'd buy this SC-Project exhaust without a second thought. It looks absolutely fanbloodytastic and the price only adds to its appeal. Can't wait to hear what you think of it
DN [thumbsup] [thumbsup].
That SC exhaust is pure awesome. Opens up the wheel and gets it down to one can, both add a lot of character to the bike.
Thanks guys I'll post pics when I get it. It'll be at least three weeks coming from Italy.
Quote from: DucNaked on February 03, 2011, 02:02:12 PM
(http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ducati/monster_1100/ligne_complete_monster_796_1100_sc_project_2_1%20completo_collettori.jpg)
That is BY FAR the best looking exhaust I have seen for a new monster. Very nice!
I don't use the word much for motorbikes, but that is one very ......pretty........ motorcycle. [thumbsup]
Just screens quality! Very classy and I bet will just haul ass.
LA
Doesn't it look like the right turn signal is being blocked by the can?
(http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ducati/monster_1100/Monster_1100_796_sc_project_2in1_exhaust_complete_scarico_laterale.jpg)
certainly does look blocked..
from all the shots of that exhaust posted the exhaust looks like a free standing item with no obvious mounting points to be seem, looks really good. i like it a lot!! [thumbsup]
It looks like from the back you can see the blinkers just fine. [thumbsup]
Ducati Monster 1100 Schollis Interpretation der neuen Monster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMIcDsTV7D0#normal)
in that video the can appears to be spaced further away from the underseat. either way, its beautiful and you'll make ot work im sure...
and DAMN that is a HUGE number plate!!!
Quote from: battlecry on February 03, 2011, 01:37:33 PM
The weak part of CF products is the epoxy resin. Many of them begin to distort around 200F. Some HT prepregs claim they can go to ~200C. Your can will be fine as long as the packing is ok. When it blows out (after many miles) and the hot exhaust hits the inside of the can, it will damage it. Probably will start at the inboard end, and you may be able to chop the damaged part off and keep riding. For now, enjoy it. [thumbsup]
it isn't so much the absolute heat, as it is the environment overall. resin systems and the fibers can take the heat alone, decades of spacecraft are proof of that (thought not quite to 200C). they can take the contact with hydrocarbons at ambient temps or a carbon rear tire hugger/chain guard wouldn't last that long. However, heat it up, pump hot caustic exhaust gasses through it and problems arise.
both the resin and the fibers individually are combustible, it's only a matter of time before the sleeve corrodes from the inside out if not protected. i've seen pictures, read threads, about them cracking in half around the ring clamp that attaches it to the subframe which makes sense as it's a high stress region. making sure the packing never lets the gasses come in contact with the CF is key, but not an easy thing to check as exhaust pulses will scour it out of one section and another may look untouched. it is a wonder to me that it's not standard procedure to line the inside with a thin sheet of aluminum.
muffler casing really isn't an appropriate use of CF IMO, but they sure are pretty... (eyeballing the CF arrow pipes on my bike with uneasy lust...)
CF corrodes aluminum. One practice is to bond a fiberglass layer to the CF to insulate the two incompatible materials. You can use an inspection mirror and a small streamlight flashlight to inspect the packing through the interior grille tube on some slipons.
Thanks for all the replies and info. [thumbsup]