Title: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Meerkat on March 17, 2011, 05:27:30 PM New boots yesterday...cooked said boots today. Looking for a heat shield to prevent this in the future. Spark midpipe as can be seen in the picture below. I'd really like to ditch the passenger pegs, but I can't afford $300 for new boots everyday. Not a fan of carbon fiber...even though you can see a bit left over from the PO. Thanks in advance!
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/jimwatsondc/2010-10-01_19-52-29_812.jpg) Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: BoDiddley on March 17, 2011, 07:41:34 PM New boots yesterday...cooked said boots today. Looking for a heat shield to prevent this in the future. Spark midpipe as can be seen in the picture below. I'd really like to ditch the passenger pegs, but I can't afford $300 for new boots everyday. Not a fan of carbon fiber...even though you can see a bit left over from the PO. Thanks in advance! I like this stuff, and it is relatively inexpensive. http://www.deicycle.com/Titanium_Exhaust_Wrap (http://www.deicycle.com/Titanium_Exhaust_Wrap) Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: pennyrobber on March 17, 2011, 10:00:23 PM Maybe something like this.
http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myProducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=405|Misc%2E%20%26%20Universal&productID=6028&showDetail=1&categoryID=405|Misc%2E%20%26%20Universal&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection= (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myProducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=405|Misc%2E%20%26%20Universal&productID=6028&showDetail=1&categoryID=405|Misc%2E%20%26%20Universal&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=) Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Snake on March 18, 2011, 04:05:03 AM I have the same bike, same exhaust, and the same problem. I installed something very similar to this http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ZU-PIPEGUARD/Bodywork-Carbon/ZU-PIPEGUARD.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ZU-PIPEGUARD/Bodywork-Carbon/ZU-PIPEGUARD.html) except it was made by Leo Vince. Don't get me wrong, the bike looked better without the extra heat shield, but I was tired of trying to remove the melted plastic from the pipe.
Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: bikepilot on March 18, 2011, 04:12:16 AM I had a header on my dual sport coated by Jet Hot with their thermal barrier "extreme silver" - looks nice and made a very noticeable difference on how hot the outside of the pipe got. I rarely if ever have direct contact between my boot and pipe, but its only maybe 15mm away from my ankle and tended to make my right ankle very hot as stock. My ankle stays cool with the coated header.
Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Meerkat on March 18, 2011, 05:37:05 AM I had a header on my dual sport coated by Jet Hot with their thermal barrier "extreme silver" - looks nice and made a very noticeable difference on how hot the outside of the pipe got. I rarely if ever have direct contact between my boot and pipe, but its only maybe 15mm away from my ankle and tended to make my right ankle very hot as stock. My ankle stays cool with the coated header. When you fire the dual sport up again, will you stick your boot on it and see if it melts? Pleeze?!? Just kidding. I've been thinking about ceramic coatings (there's a place in VA that does it), but how much do they really decrease the temperature? Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on March 18, 2011, 05:45:53 AM Get a whole new exhaust and sell that one to me [moto]
Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Greg on March 18, 2011, 05:53:27 AM Maybe something like this. http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myProducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=405|Misc%2E%20%26%20Universal&productID=6028&showDetail=1&categoryID=405|Misc%2E%20%26%20Universal&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection= (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myProducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=405|Misc%2E%20%26%20Universal&productID=6028&showDetail=1&categoryID=405|Misc%2E%20%26%20Universal&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=) I think that is the one that I used on my bike, and it works very well. http://s354.photobucket.com/albums/r438/SA_S2R/?action=view¤t=2Ducs.jpg (http://s354.photobucket.com/albums/r438/SA_S2R/?action=view¤t=2Ducs.jpg) Recommended [thumbsup] Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Artful on March 18, 2011, 06:00:30 AM I have some sheet aluminum, we could make you a custom one...
Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Meerkat on March 18, 2011, 06:08:51 AM Get a whole new exhaust and sell that one to me [moto] Got to change my pants now. Just pissed 'em laughing so hard! I thought you bought this system for your ride ??? Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Meerkat on March 18, 2011, 06:11:20 AM I have some sheet aluminum, we could make you a custom one... Now this is an interesting possibility. I need to get up your way and see a riding friend of mine. Maybe I can make a weekend out of it...ride, fabricate, ride...sounds very tempting! Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: zooom on March 18, 2011, 06:17:27 AM I have some sheet aluminum, we could make you a custom one... I did the same thing on my track bike with some roofing flash squares and some heat tape for to protect my heels on the high mount D&D up-pipes with the Cycle Cat rear sets on the track bike... Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Artful on March 18, 2011, 06:19:02 AM I just need to think of a way to attach it to the pipe, probably a hose clamp would work if we could hide the wormscrew portion. I can do lots of things, welding isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: zooom on March 18, 2011, 06:24:09 AM I just need to think of a way to attach it to the pipe, probably a hose clamp would work if we could hide the wormscrew portion. I can do lots of things, welding isn't one of them. maybe it is possible to attach to the peg stand from the backside using the bolt holes for the rear brake master cylinder and some longer bolts? Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 18, 2011, 06:44:40 AM I just need to think of a way to attach it to the pipe, probably a hose clamp would work if we could hide the wormscrew portion. I can do lots of things, welding isn't one of them. Check out http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ms21919clamps.php (http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ms21919clamps.php) they sell clamps. I got some to lower my headlight. Get a couple, remove the rubber (unless you really like the smell), and use them to clamp the shield to the pipe. It'll work better with a spacer between the clamp and the shield. Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: bikepilot on March 18, 2011, 07:03:00 AM I don't have a way of quantifying how much of a difference the coating made other than that my ankle (though proper riding boots) got uncomfortably hot stock and I don't notice it even getting warm with the ceramic. Water will still boil on the header though. There is an obvious difference in heat when putting my hand near the surface of the stock header vs the coated header as well.
I think I'll skip sticking my boot on it though :) Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Meerkat on March 19, 2011, 01:43:31 PM Took a little trip to Home Despot and found lots of goodies to mount up the stock heat shields I had from the PO:
rod coupling nuts with metric machine screws to match and a couple hose clamps. It ain't pretty, but it works until I can find a better option. I'll get a pic up later. Anybody ever seen a hose clamp with built in standoff that accepts an M5 screw? (the stock screw for the heat shield is and M5 and looks better than the machine screws I'm using now). I dug around on mcmaster and grainger but didn't see anything. Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on March 20, 2011, 06:46:24 AM Got to change my pants now. Just pissed 'em laughing so hard! I thought you bought this system for your ride ??? I did but I really miss the rear open wheel and the simplicity of the mid-pipe design. Went back to stock this weekend. maybe a Ex-Box is in my future, maybe not. Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: stopintime on March 20, 2011, 05:07:37 PM This attaches easily and fits stock shields (maybe MotoWheels and MonsterParts shields too)
http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/schelle-fur-hitzeschutz-s2r-s4r-mit-desmoworld.html (http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/schelle-fur-hitzeschutz-s2r-s4r-mit-desmoworld.html) Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Rob13 on March 20, 2011, 06:04:11 PM Ducatician, I used the stock shields with stainless steel t-bar hose clamps and 1/4-20 pan head with hex drive (they look like the stock bolts) and locking nuts from the local Marine store. For the stand offs i cut on of the clamps into Pisces and bent them into a u shape and drilled a clearance hole for the bolt and slid the other side between the pipe and clamp. It works and I think it looks good.(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4662974013_aa26a861f9.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50009791@N03/4662974013/)
rear right side (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50009791@N03/4662974013/#) by 13ROB13 (http://www.flickr.com/people/50009791@N03/), on Flickr Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Meerkat on March 21, 2011, 01:36:42 AM Sounds like I've got a little fabrication project coming up. Do you have the U part of the u-strap between the other clamp and the pipe (i.e. do you have a hole in each end of the U)? Seems a little less likely to vibrate loose. On second thought, that wouldn't work very well...how would you get the bolt in there in the first place? Doh, I should not be allowed to post this early in the morning!
Nice looking bike! Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Rob13 on March 21, 2011, 08:48:06 AM Ducatician, I'll try to explane it a bit clearer;
1) Cut one large t-bar clamp into four 1 1/2" long strips (I used the t-bar clamp because the ban solid and a good thickness for the stand offs). 2) Drill one 5/16" hole on one end 1/4" from the end. 3) Bend the strips into a U 1/2"x1/2"x1/2". 4) Place one of the legs in between the exhaust pipe and the clamp (I put the top stand offs with the bottom of the U on top to hide the nut from the top view). 5) Place one of the bolt with a plastic washer (it will not melt) in through the shield . 6) This part was bit tricky, but I got it to work, put the locking nut in the box end of the wrench (tip place some tape on the back end of the box to keep the nut in place). Put the wrench in the center of the U. Now screw the the bolt through the stand off into the nut with an Alan wrench. 7) Repeat steps 4 to 6 for the rest. I hope this helps, oh and thanks for complament on the bike. Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: atomic410 on March 22, 2011, 08:45:26 AM I just want to know where i can get the clamp with something to thread screws into. I have to make some kind of clamp to keep my bodywork off of the exhaust and hold it at the same time [bacon]
Title: Re: Tired of cooking boots...heat shield recommendation please Post by: Artful on March 22, 2011, 09:01:01 AM I just want to know where i can get the clamp with something to thread screws into. I have to make some kind of clamp to keep my bodywork off of the exhaust and hold it at the same time [bacon] I'm looking into finding something similar for building a fork tube camera mount. If I track anything down that would handle exhaust temps I'll post it up here. |