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Title: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Raux on April 07, 2011, 12:37:10 PM
NEED HELP ASAP

I came out of the office to go home...
No power... not sure if I left the parking light on... maybe maybe not
tried to push start... kept dying like it was flooding...and occasionally sounding like a mono when it would start then die again...

finally got it started and idling rough... battery charged up to and showed good amps on dash.. BUT

engine light on... coil error... yep, running on one cylinder. horizontal cylinder was dead...

For sure need new plug (cracked it trying to get it out to check it  [bang])
Probably coil since all wires were connected right.

but then when i tried to start thinking ... hey Ducati made a mono...
bike gave another error 00002 swg or something like that... then click.. no power...
turned the key, power came back on, guages swept... error shows

did i fry the coil trying to push start? or was the coil fried and drained the battery?

Had to leave the bike on base overnight... FIRST time out overnight  [bang]

Just need to make sure I'm not missing anything.
I'll gonna grab a new plug, new coil (anyone know of a cheap alternative?), and take my tools and battery charger (just in case it dies overnight)



Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Punx Clever on April 07, 2011, 12:50:12 PM
No reason why the coil would be harmed by push starting.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: ducpainter on April 07, 2011, 12:52:06 PM
Possibly low voltage causing the error?

I don't think the battery would charge sufficiently from running a few minutes.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Raux on April 07, 2011, 12:53:23 PM
Just spoke to a Ducati Seattle tech, didn't get his name so Dave please tell whoever helped the guy in Germany, thank you again.

He said I fouled the plug most likely.
So, 2 new plugs, maybe the battery and it should fire up.

First thing in the morning I have to get the stuff and get it going.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: bikepilot on April 07, 2011, 01:30:57 PM
That is solid advice.  FI bikes don't like operating on low voltage and it isn't unusual to get weird codes.  Coil related codes and fouled plugs are the most common troubles because the coils don't work well on low voltage while the ECU and other stuff can tolerate low voltage better. 

Note that your bike's stator probably will not fully recharge the battery.  It would be wise to put the battery on a battery tender or similar over night and then verify that it is still in good condition and fully charged.

In the future if this happens you can jump-start the bike from a car (if you can physically attach jumper cables to your battery), just make sure the car is turned off at the time to avoid potentially overheating the bike's voltage regulator.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Raux on April 07, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
Yeah the battery tender I have.


may need to pull the battery for another day and leave the bike on base one more day if it won't start in the morning after fresh plugs.


It's just a pain to get the battery and I failed to put the charger pigtail on last time I had it apart  [bang]
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: ducpainter on April 07, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
Quote from: Raux on April 07, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
Yeah the battery tender I have.


may need to pull the battery for another day and leave the bike on base one more day if it won't start in the morning after fresh plugs.


It's just a pain to get the battery and I failed to put the charger pigtail on last time I had it apart  [bang]
DOH...
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: booger on April 07, 2011, 03:21:30 PM
Do a quick check of the battery to engine ground wire. Mine fouled a plug and threw a code once and it was because the connection on the engine case worked itself a bit loose. Code reader said 'ecu not communicating with coil' or something like that. Probably not your problem, but hey if it is it's a cheap fix.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Raux on April 07, 2011, 03:23:34 PM
that was on my list because of others on the board having the same issue.

tomorrow me, 2 spark plugs, tool kit and battery charger are  heading to work.. .ON MY DAY OFF...
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Howie on April 07, 2011, 11:04:37 PM
Yep, a low battery can create all kinds of problems since you neep enough to power up the computer and fuel pump.  You may also need to clear the codes, I'm not sure.  Either way, put a meter across the battery.  You should have 13.5-14.5 volts at 3K RPM.  Oh, 696, hard to get to the battery.  The plug for your battery charger will work.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Raux on April 08, 2011, 10:24:57 AM
alrighty... bike is home

changed plugs
put a battery pig tail on
charged it enough to get the fuel pump working
push started

two cylinders firing..
rode it home
battery solid now for a restart...

gonna put it on the battery conditioner tonight again to be sure.

thanks all.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Howie on April 08, 2011, 10:27:33 AM
Code gone?
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Raux on April 08, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: howie on April 08, 2011, 10:27:33 AM
Code gone?

0002.r SW

not sure what that was...
the wrench is on though  [bang]

gonna run to the shop next week to check it all out.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: MongoReturns on April 08, 2011, 10:36:02 AM
Quote from: Raux on April 08, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
0002.r SW

not sure what that was...
the wrench is on though  [bang]

gonna run to the shop next week to check it all out.

I get that sometimes when my 1098 battery blows out & shuts off everything when trying to start.  It doesn't bother anything (on my 1098 anyway), so I don't worry about it.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: normalcyispasse on April 08, 2011, 11:16:45 AM
And this is on an '09? Any warranty left?

Quote from: Raux on April 08, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
0002.r SW

not sure what that was...
the wrench is on though  [bang]

gonna run to the shop next week to check it all out.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Raux on April 08, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: normalcyispasse on April 08, 2011, 11:16:45 AM
And this is on an '09? Any warranty left?


nope purchased in summer '08
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: 671M900 on April 09, 2011, 02:03:54 AM
Same exact thing happened, but on my carby. Amazingly, it ran on one cylinder, but I had to crack the throttle a bit more. I was able to ride it home where I discovered a fouled plug.

Low battery caused a fouled plug. Fouled plug started all sorts of shenanigans.
Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Raux on April 09, 2011, 07:37:46 AM
I had thought about that, but it's a 44km ride home.

The battery took a full charge overnight and is holding it!

Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: danaid on April 10, 2011, 09:41:58 PM
  Same problem with my bike, I thought It was a bad battery. Error code 0002swg, general charging system error. voltage regulator / rectifier went out on my bike.
  Don't ride anymore no matter what the battery volts read,  :o  she will start up, and that leave you stranded once the regulator finally decides to stop working. If this is your problem. :(  
$ 140ish from the dealer. I bought a universal one from Ebay for less, but It had 1' of extra wiring harness. Go for oem.



Title: Re: No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED
Post by: Raux on April 14, 2011, 07:46:51 AM
Thanks for the heads up. I need to get it to the dealer to check the regulator.

but in reality i do think i left the light no that morning, killing the battery