No power-no start-push start-one cylinder-coil error-BIKE STRANDED

Started by Raux, April 07, 2011, 12:37:10 PM

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Raux

NEED HELP ASAP

I came out of the office to go home...
No power... not sure if I left the parking light on... maybe maybe not
tried to push start... kept dying like it was flooding...and occasionally sounding like a mono when it would start then die again...

finally got it started and idling rough... battery charged up to and showed good amps on dash.. BUT

engine light on... coil error... yep, running on one cylinder. horizontal cylinder was dead...

For sure need new plug (cracked it trying to get it out to check it  [bang])
Probably coil since all wires were connected right.

but then when i tried to start thinking ... hey Ducati made a mono...
bike gave another error 00002 swg or something like that... then click.. no power...
turned the key, power came back on, guages swept... error shows

did i fry the coil trying to push start? or was the coil fried and drained the battery?

Had to leave the bike on base overnight... FIRST time out overnight  [bang]

Just need to make sure I'm not missing anything.
I'll gonna grab a new plug, new coil (anyone know of a cheap alternative?), and take my tools and battery charger (just in case it dies overnight)




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ducpainter

Possibly low voltage causing the error?

I don't think the battery would charge sufficiently from running a few minutes.
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Raux

Just spoke to a Ducati Seattle tech, didn't get his name so Dave please tell whoever helped the guy in Germany, thank you again.

He said I fouled the plug most likely.
So, 2 new plugs, maybe the battery and it should fire up.

First thing in the morning I have to get the stuff and get it going.

bikepilot

That is solid advice.  FI bikes don't like operating on low voltage and it isn't unusual to get weird codes.  Coil related codes and fouled plugs are the most common troubles because the coils don't work well on low voltage while the ECU and other stuff can tolerate low voltage better. 

Note that your bike's stator probably will not fully recharge the battery.  It would be wise to put the battery on a battery tender or similar over night and then verify that it is still in good condition and fully charged.

In the future if this happens you can jump-start the bike from a car (if you can physically attach jumper cables to your battery), just make sure the car is turned off at the time to avoid potentially overheating the bike's voltage regulator.
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Raux

Yeah the battery tender I have.


may need to pull the battery for another day and leave the bike on base one more day if it won't start in the morning after fresh plugs.


It's just a pain to get the battery and I failed to put the charger pigtail on last time I had it apart  [bang]

ducpainter

Quote from: Raux on April 07, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
Yeah the battery tender I have.


may need to pull the battery for another day and leave the bike on base one more day if it won't start in the morning after fresh plugs.


It's just a pain to get the battery and I failed to put the charger pigtail on last time I had it apart  [bang]
DOH...
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booger

Do a quick check of the battery to engine ground wire. Mine fouled a plug and threw a code once and it was because the connection on the engine case worked itself a bit loose. Code reader said 'ecu not communicating with coil' or something like that. Probably not your problem, but hey if it is it's a cheap fix.
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Raux

that was on my list because of others on the board having the same issue.

tomorrow me, 2 spark plugs, tool kit and battery charger are  heading to work.. .ON MY DAY OFF...

Howie

Yep, a low battery can create all kinds of problems since you neep enough to power up the computer and fuel pump.  You may also need to clear the codes, I'm not sure.  Either way, put a meter across the battery.  You should have 13.5-14.5 volts at 3K RPM.  Oh, 696, hard to get to the battery.  The plug for your battery charger will work.

Raux

alrighty... bike is home

changed plugs
put a battery pig tail on
charged it enough to get the fuel pump working
push started

two cylinders firing..
rode it home
battery solid now for a restart...

gonna put it on the battery conditioner tonight again to be sure.

thanks all.

Howie


Raux

Quote from: howie on April 08, 2011, 10:27:33 AM
Code gone?

0002.r SW

not sure what that was...
the wrench is on though  [bang]

gonna run to the shop next week to check it all out.

MongoReturns

Quote from: Raux on April 08, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
0002.r SW

not sure what that was...
the wrench is on though  [bang]

gonna run to the shop next week to check it all out.

I get that sometimes when my 1098 battery blows out & shuts off everything when trying to start.  It doesn't bother anything (on my 1098 anyway), so I don't worry about it.
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And this is on an '09? Any warranty left?

Quote from: Raux on April 08, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
0002.r SW

not sure what that was...
the wrench is on though  [bang]

gonna run to the shop next week to check it all out.