Hi there excuse my ignorance if this has been posted earlier but i couldnt find anything, i am coming off my under 250cc licence and am looking at buying a 796, but i am just wondering if anyone knows anything about any new models coming out in the near future, I have heard about a 896 coming out in the near future, I am currently riding a honda cbf 250 so cant wait to ride a real bike
Don't know about any 896's that may or may not see the light of day, but the 796 makes plenty of power. My old 750 makes enough power to kill me If I don't pay attention and the 796 engine is almost twice as good. You should really ask yourself If the bike has all the options you want on it for the money. If fully adjustable suspension and dry clutches are not must haves, go with the 796.
I have not heard that one. I doubt this is real. However, I guess they could bring back the 904 cc displacement engine, update it with any recent updates like the vacuum castings & latest head designs, and then call it the 896. An 896 wouldn't be so close in displacement to the 696 so that would make sense.
i would highly doubt it too... 4 engine models in a line seems a bit much. the 796 made a lot of sense as the tween step btwn the 696/1100 with a SSS and a bit more power, but a 896 would seem pretty redundant.
I upgraded from my frist bike, a 650 cc cruiser, to a 2011 796. It's ridiculously fast and probably weighs about the same as your 250. More than enough power for a new rider for anything you could possibly need.
It's agile, sounds nasty, and puts a smile on your face every time you turn it on. Can't go wrong.
It sounds like this bike is insane what's the learner curve like for a relatively new rider should I be looking at some else. How "easy" is the bike to ride
if they did I'd call Ducati the GM of bikes. No need to fill that gap IMO.
The only way an 896 would be possible is if it was the replacement for the 796.
Quote from: warda437 on May 13, 2011, 06:19:34 PM
It sounds like this bike is insane what's the learner curve like for a relatively new rider should I be looking at some else. How "easy" is the bike to ride
Its should be good for beginners and experienced alike. It makes good torque across a wide band. It makes enough power that you shouldn't outgrow it in six months, but not so much power that you should be afraid of it. Just use as much as you need.
Sweet thanks for that does any one know where I would find I picture of a late model ducati monster with a pearl white frame and tank, I am think of getting that color scheme but can't seem to find any photos of it anywhere
www.ducati.com (//http://)
Quote from: thought on May 14, 2011, 04:58:47 AM
www.ducati.com (//http://) (//http://) (//http://)
I am looking at getting both the trestle frame and the tank painted white and am wondering if anybody has already done it. They just seem to have white and red
Quote from: D Paoli on May 13, 2011, 07:32:09 AM
Don't know about any 896's that may or may not see the light of day, but the 796 makes plenty of power. My old 750 makes enough power to kill me If I don't pay attention and the 796 engine is almost twice as good. You should really ask yourself If the bike has all the options you want on it for the money. If fully adjustable suspension and dry clutches are not must haves, go with the 796.
I just upgraded from the 696 to a 796 with ABS and I honestly dont think I could be happier, it stops on a dime thanks to the ABS, will pull the front wheel up in 1st with no clutch (and will bounce up in 2nd) so it clearly makes more power than you need on the street, and the resculpted seat is a godsend. Also, they went with the single sided swingarm and (imho) vastly better looking wheel design. Basically...its a tame, house broken version of the 1100.
When I got the 696 and they unveiled the 796 3 months later I felt cheated...if they make an 896 I think I would honestly be content staying on the Seven.
IF this were true, it would be a good thing, but as a movement of the 796 to the next size as it's too close the 696
in fact. a 696, 896, 1100 lineup would make WAY more sense than the 796.
Quote from: warda437 on May 13, 2011, 06:19:34 PM
It sounds like this bike is insane what's the learner curve like for a relatively new rider should I be looking at some else. How "easy" is the bike to ride
i find that twins are much more sensitive to throttle input than other bikes. once you achieve solidly manipulating the throttle in small increments, you're good to go.
Personally I think an 849/869 Street Fighter makes a lot more sense in terms of filling out the various weight & power output 'slots' in Ducati's standard bike lineup.
Monsters = Air Cooled standards
StreetFighters = Liquid Cooled standards
Also, I hear Ducati is making a motard [evil]
Quote from: Privateer on May 14, 2011, 10:51:48 AM
i find that twins are much more sensitive to throttle input than other bikes. once you achieve solidly manipulating the throttle in small increments, you're good to go.
+1 on this, the higher torque will let you get out of control quick with jerky motion...while a 4cyl might dog at low rpm, the twins are more likely to buck...causing more jerky motion and so on
Quote from: freeclimbmtb on May 14, 2011, 06:50:24 AM
I just upgraded from the 696 to a 796 with ABS and I honestly dont think I could be happier, it stops on a dime thanks to the ABS, will pull the front wheel up in 1st with no clutch (and will bounce up in 2nd) so it clearly makes more power than you need on the street, and the resculpted seat is a godsend. Also, they went with the single sided swingarm and (imho) vastly better looking wheel design. Basically...its a tame, house broken version of the 1100.
I'm going to have to call BS on that. I've ridden the 796 Hyper and it does not do wheelies on power alone.
Quote from: Raux on May 14, 2011, 07:15:11 AM
IF this were true, it would be a good thing, but as a movement of the 796 to the next size as it's too close the 696
in fact. a 696, 896, 1100 lineup would make WAY more sense than the 796.
i think they would be worried about cannibalizing m1100 sales with that close of a displacement. also, m796 worked out well because it was a drop in from the hym796
think about it though.
696 80 hp (ok at the crank)
796 81 hp
1100 100 hp
an 896 with 90 would be better
Quote from: Raux on May 14, 2011, 03:14:30 PM
think about it though.
696 80 hp (ok at the crank)
796 81 hp
1100 100 hp
an 896 with 90 would be better
oh, i agree with you... but the 796 is 87 at the crank, so i would guess that a 896 would be around 93-94ish which would place it uncomfortably close to the 1100 i think. because, at that point, unless you really really needed to get the adjustable suspension, a m1100 is kinda meh. but you're right... it does make sense, but i cant see them doing it for a while.
dreams dreams dreams. [laugh]
You'll not be longing for more power with the 796. I currently ride a 12-year old Monster 750 and it delivers enough power to keep me grinning ~
JM
Quote from: Travman on May 14, 2011, 12:37:20 PM
I'm going to have to call BS on that. I've ridden the 796 Hyper and it does not do wheelies on power alone.
You can call BS on what ever you like, or you can meet up for a ride and watch me do it. I dont slip the clutch to wheelie (it scares the crap out of me) and Im also not talking about reaching the balance point. But at with me weighing 130lbs soaking wet, my 796 WILL lift the front wheel about a foot on power alone in 1st and bounce it up in second.
Quote from: Raux on May 14, 2011, 03:14:30 PM
think about it though.
696 80 hp (ok at the crank)
796 81 hp
1100 100 hp
an 896 with 90 would be better
CORRECTION:
696 - 80 HP
796 - 87 HP
1100 - 95 HP
1100evo - 100 HP
Quote from: freeclimbmtb on May 15, 2011, 05:48:02 AM
You can call BS on what ever you like, or you can meet up for a ride and watch me do it. I dont slip the clutch to wheelie (it scares the crap out of me) and Im also not talking about reaching the balance point. But at with me weighing 130lbs soaking wet, my 796 WILL lift the front wheel about a foot on power alone in 1st and bounce it up in second.
I just wanted to see if you would back it up. If you say it can be done then it can be done.
I'll back the wheelie thing up further, my old Monster 750 will power wheelie. Not big, we're only talking a few inches, but it will still do it. It's got less power than ALL of the current Monsters.
JM
Quote from: Bishamon on May 15, 2011, 07:27:41 AM
CORRECTION:
696 - 80 HP
796 - 87 HP
1100 - 95 HP
1100evo - 100 HP
i think it's interesting they are saying that for the 796 now, when it first came out it was like 81 and then 84 i had seen.
still a 10hp spacing between them would be better.
the 1100 non evo doesn't really matter as it's out of production already.
in the end. the evo motor is just starting to be exploited, bet you see it go up over the next couple of years leaving room for an 896 and dropping the 796.. maybe the HM will inherit it as well. or they could take the HM down to 696 to cut a little weight (ie no oil cooler, etc)