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Title: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 18, 2011, 06:32:47 PM Hi,
I am going to purchase a 1098s Ohlins front fork for my M796. As i know the fork for 1098S is 53-56mm and my M796 is 50-54mm, so i am going to find someone to help me to wear down my triple tree clamp to fit the fork. Anyone know apart from the diameter is different, any other parts i need to change to fit the 1098s fork on my M796? Is the axle and nut the same? All ducati brake calipers also are 100mm, right? Do i also need to change the fender?? Thanks. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 18, 2011, 10:32:31 PM not sure you have enough material on your stock to fit the 56mm lower
plenty of people have bored the top for the 53. probably would be better to purchase complete upper and lower triple kit. I replaced it with an Style and Performance set, others have used IMA and I think there are a few more options. the axle and spacers are different, not 100% it's a different nut. best to get the axle, nut and axle spacers (1 of your old ones and one of the SBK is what i used but can't tell you which) the brake calipers are the 100mm mounts, but unless you use the 1098 330mm rotors you can throw away the 5mm spacers on from the forks if they come with it when you buy them. you'll need to change some things for the rotors. the 1098 have a 5mm per side larger offset so you'll either have to -get 5mm spacers with 5mm longer bolts to mount between your stock rotor and your stock wheel -get 5mm more offset rotors with the 6-bolt mount (very rare and hard to source 748R/998R rotors only) -get a sbk wheel and rotors Fender should fit. I think only the gas charged works type fork is different, but I don't have the Ohlins. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 18, 2011, 10:53:52 PM not sure you have enough material on your stock to fit the 56mm lower plenty of people have bored the top for the 53. probably would be better to purchase complete upper and lower triple kit. I replaced it with an Style and Performance set, others have used IMA and I think there are a few more options. the axle and spacers are different, not 100% it's a different nut. best to get the axle, nut and axle spacers (1 of your old ones and one of the SBK is what i used but can't tell you which) the brake calipers are the 100mm mounts, but unless you use the 1098 330mm rotors you can throw away the 5mm spacers on from the forks if they come with it when you buy them. you'll need to change some things for the rotors. the 1098 have a 5mm per side larger offset so you'll either have to -get 5mm spacers with 5mm longer bolts to mount between your stock rotor and your stock wheel -get 5mm more offset rotors with the 6-bolt mount (very rare and hard to source 748R/998R rotors only) -get a sbk wheel and rotors Fender should fit. I think only the gas charged works type fork is different, but I don't have the Ohlins. thanks. More questions come, i knew that the offset is not same, so i am going to purchase both stock upper and lower triple tree clamp. And i will wear down the trip tree clamp to 53m mand 56 mm. Is the offset still different if i use the stock triple tree clamp? And i don't quiet understand the rotors part. Do i need to change the brake rotor. Any other method that i no need to change a new rotor? Thanks. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 18, 2011, 11:15:01 PM not sure you understand the issue on the offset
i'm not talking about the offset of the triple why are you purchasing new stock triples? for the rotors they come in 3 types for different bikes 0mm offset for old monster 10mm offset for new monsters 15mm offset for superbikes there are some threads in the how to as well as accesories and mods to search for with photos etc Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 18, 2011, 11:34:24 PM not sure you understand the issue on the offset i'm not talking about the offset of the triple why are you purchasing new stock triples? for the rotors they come in 3 types for different bikes 0mm offset for old monster 10mm offset for new monsters 15mm offset for superbikes there are some threads in the how to as well as accesories and mods to search for with photos etc seems so complicated for me. Any suggestion for me? Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 18, 2011, 11:39:05 PM it's a bit complicated, but possible
Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 18, 2011, 11:57:13 PM ok. set a budget.
list of materials Option 1: Low cost (key issue- can lowers be bored to 56mm?) -forks -5mm spacers for rotors and 5mm longer bolts -axle, nut and spacers -bore top triple (53mm) bored bottom triple (56mm) Option 2: Mid-lower level (key issue sourcing brakes and boring issue) -forks -6-bolt, 15mm offset, 320mm rotors (@$300) -axle, nut and spacers -bore top triple (53mm) bored bottom triple (56mm) Option 3: Mid-upper (key issue sourcing brakes) -forks -6-bolt, 15mm offset, 320mm rotors -axle, nut and spacers -New upper and lower custom monster triples for Ohlins fork ($300-$600) Option 4: High -forks (with 5mm caliper mount spacers if you use 330mm rotor) -superbike rotors (320 or 330mm) -superbike wheel -axle, nut and spacers -New upper and lower custom monster triples for Ohlins fork ($300-$600) Option 5: lowest cost -Monster 1100S Ohlins forks Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 19, 2011, 12:09:13 AM ok. set a budget. list of materials Option 1: Low cost (key issue- can lowers be bored to 56mm?) -forks -5mm spacers for rotors and 5mm longer bolts -axle, nut and spacers -bore top triple (53mm) bored bottom triple (56mm) Option 2: Mid-lower level (key issue sourcing brakes and boring issue) -forks -6-bolt, 15mm offset, 320mm rotors (@$300) -axle, nut and spacers -bore top triple (53mm) bored bottom triple (56mm) Option 3: Mid-upper (key issue sourcing brakes) -forks -6-bolt, 15mm offset, 320mm rotors -axle, nut and spacers -New upper and lower custom monster triples for Ohlins fork ($300-$600) Option 4: High -forks (with 5mm caliper mount spacers if you use 330mm rotor) -superbike rotors (320 or 330mm) -superbike wheel -axle, nut and spacers -New upper and lower custom monster triples for Ohlins fork ($300-$600) Option 5: lowest cost -Monster 1100S Ohlins forks If i choose the Mid-lower level, where can i buy the 6-bolt and spacer and how to make the 15mm offset?? My stock rotors is 320mm, so i don't need to change it, right? Thanks. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 19, 2011, 02:52:07 AM you mean the low with the 5mm spacers for the rotors... check with motowheels i think... they also might have the bolts
Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: corey on May 19, 2011, 03:22:26 AM keep in mind the affects on geometry and safety that are involved here.
if you not sure you can tackle this properly, enlist the help of a pro. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 19, 2011, 01:12:43 PM honestly really think you should look at the M1100S forks if you can find em. directly swap
Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Link on May 19, 2011, 03:58:35 PM you mean the low with the 5mm spacers for the rotors... check with motowheels i think... they also might have the bolts FYI Motowheels does not carry the 5mm spacers. I checked this out when I did my fork swap. Motowheels will refer you to an Aprilia dealer in Texas called AF1 & they sell a 6 bolt rotor spacers that are only 2.5mm so you need 4 of these & it will cost you about $110.00 for 4. Just google Aprilia forum & that will get you to there web site/store Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: 2-Skinny on May 19, 2011, 04:03:08 PM You can have spacers machined at a shop- sure to cost less than $110...
Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 19, 2011, 05:42:37 PM Any one know the upper and lower triple clamp of M796 is 50/54mm or 50/53mm?
Thanks. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: 2-Skinny on May 19, 2011, 06:02:10 PM I would advise grabbing a pair of calipers to check your measurements and parts you get before you have machine work done, install, buy parts, etc.
Also read this thread: http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=36913.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=36913.0) Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 20, 2011, 05:49:59 AM Chiu
hey new info check the rotor bolts on your bike. if you have 5 you might already have the 15mm offset needed... so no spacers apparently this is a 796 feature... sorry about that... that just was brought up in another thread. and i guess you might also want to check the lower triple clamp size since someone else is saying it's 53 Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 21, 2011, 01:26:09 AM Chiu hey new info check the rotor bolts on your bike. if you have 5 you might already have the 15mm offset needed... so no spacers apparently this is a 796 feature... sorry about that... that just was brought up in another thread. and i guess you might also want to check the lower triple clamp size since someone else is saying it's 53 how i can check the bolts is 5/6? Do you the the 2011 version is 5/6? Cause my bike is in service till next weekend. So i can't check it now. Most people said the lower triple clamp is 54mm, so i not sure it's 54/53mm...... Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 21, 2011, 01:57:27 AM how i can check the bolts is 5/6? Do you the the 2011 version is 5/6? Cause my bike is in service till next weekend. So i can't check it now. Most people said the lower triple clamp is 54mm, so i not sure it's 54/53mm...... what wheels do you have on there? i notice you are selling your stock count the bolts mounting the brake rotors. yeah this is a bit confusing, another member, who i think is a mech at a duc shop, is saying 50/53 for the 796... You'll need them to take a quick measurement and visual on the forks/wheels. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 21, 2011, 04:25:42 AM what wheels do you have on there? i notice you are selling your stock count the bolts mounting the brake rotors. yeah this is a bit confusing, another member, who i think is a mech at a duc shop, is saying 50/53 for the 796... You'll need them to take a quick measurement and visual on the forks/wheels. I am not sure right now as my bike is in service. And i will be out of town till July. Do you know where can i make sure the lower clamp is 53 or 54mm?? Many thanks. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 21, 2011, 04:28:47 AM I am not sure right now as my bike is in service. And i will be out of town till July. Do you know where can i make sure the lower clamp is 53 or 54mm?? Many thanks. The best thing at this point is to ask one of the dealers, Maybe Dave R from Ducati Seattle can get some specifications for us. If it is 53... i really do wonder if you'll have enough material on it to go all the way to 56 and keep the strength. Where are you located? Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 21, 2011, 06:38:08 AM The best thing at this point is to ask one of the dealers, Maybe Dave R from Ducati Seattle can get some specifications for us. If it is 53... i really do wonder if you'll have enough material on it to go all the way to 56 and keep the strength. Where are you located? I have checked it the ducati site, it's 5 bolts!! The fork seller told me the fork is 53-53mm with a 56mm billet sleeves, is it right?? I not locate in USA. I am from Hong Kong. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 21, 2011, 06:40:00 AM The best thing at this point is to ask one of the dealers, Maybe Dave R from Ducati Seattle can get some specifications for us. If it is 53... i really do wonder if you'll have enough material on it to go all the way to 56 and keep the strength. Where are you located? Btw, i would like to ask who is Dave R? Sorry for the stupid question, haha. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 21, 2011, 06:45:39 AM I have checked it the ducati site, it's 5 bolts!! The fork seller told me the fork is 53-53mm with a 56mm billet sleeves, is it right?? I not locate in USA. I am from Hong Kong. i had always heard the ohlins were 53/56... and had required a new lower triple even for the superbikes. Apparently: after a search: the Ohlins off the S models is 53/56 but the FGRT are 53/53 Ask him for a good picture of the forks with all the parts. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 21, 2011, 07:00:54 AM i had always heard the ohlins were 53/56... and had required a new lower triple even for the superbikes. Apparently: after a search: the Ohlins off the S models is 53/56 but the FGRT are 53/53 Ask him for a good picture of the forks with all the parts. So 53/53 or 53/56 you suggest?? Which one is better?? Or which one can sell a better price if I decide to sell the fork after 2-3 years later? Thanks Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 21, 2011, 07:23:28 AM So 53/53 or 53/56 you suggest?? Which one is better?? Or which one can sell a better price if I decide to sell the fork after 2-3 years later? Thanks for sure the FGRT are better forks, but they also are way up there in price Dave R is checking into some specs on your bike. will report back when he gets the info to me Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 21, 2011, 09:26:34 AM for sure the FGRT are better forks, but they also are way up there in price Dave R is checking into some specs on your bike. will report back when he gets the info to me Thanks!!!! Where you from?? It's Saturday morning in USA, you don't you sleep??!!haha Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 21, 2011, 01:53:11 PM Thanks!!!! Where you from?? It's Saturday morning in USA, you don't you sleep??!!haha I actually live in Europe, but am in the US right now... and yes, I don't sleep. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 22, 2011, 12:23:08 AM I actually live in Europe, but am in the US right now... and yes, I don't sleep. Can I see more photos about your bike?? Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 22, 2011, 09:29:30 AM (http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/167917_149462581777145_100001402122676_273965_1240052_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47160_109234282466642_100001402122676_68080_2090018_n.jpg) (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47703_109234589133278_100001402122676_68081_5923570_n.jpg) Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 22, 2011, 09:30:54 AM (http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/167917_149462581777145_100001402122676_273965_1240052_n.jpg) (http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47160_109234282466642_100001402122676_68080_2090018_n.jpg) (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47703_109234589133278_100001402122676_68081_5923570_n.jpg) woo! my bike is the same colour with you~ Do you know where can i change the "ducati monster" sticker on the tank into red colour?? Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 22, 2011, 09:42:54 AM That's the 80's skins from Ducati
My stock bike was black frame/ pearl white skins I repainted the whole frame and got the 80's skin Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 22, 2011, 11:01:06 AM That's the 80's skins from Ducati My stock bike was black frame/ pearl white skins I repainted the whole frame and got the 80's skin yaya, i know it's a 80"s tank. But i want to change my black" ducati monster" sticker on the thank into red, do you know where can i buy the stickers?? Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 22, 2011, 12:19:26 PM if you are looking for the stock sticker in red, check with an online dealer..
if you are looking for the style i have in red http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-decal-set-motorcycle-superbike-996-999-1098-/170610479248?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b92d5090 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-decal-set-motorcycle-superbike-996-999-1098-/170610479248?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b92d5090) Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: DoWorkSon on May 22, 2011, 12:21:57 PM You can order them off ebay or from a wide array of decal shops. You could find a local sign shop and have them make them too. I bought mine at the dealership for about $8... Only ones peel off and new ones stick on. I used a credit card to get the old ones off.
(http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/bsurjan/DSC00028.jpg) Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: 2-Skinny on May 22, 2011, 12:24:54 PM Raux: What headlight and mounts are you running?
Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 22, 2011, 12:33:40 PM yaya, i know it's a 80"s tank. But i want to change my black" ducati monster" sticker on the thank into red, do you know where can i buy the stickers?? Chui the other problem is you said you have a white tank... or silver? make sure you sticker isn't under clearcoat. 2-Skinny I'm using this http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=35&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10020910 (http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=35&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10020910) but I'm going to change to this maybe this week. http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=35&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10020938 (http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=35&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10020938) and this is the light http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&artnr_gr=10033974&anzeige=0&ADTRACTIONSLOT=detail_kontext (http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&artnr_gr=10033974&anzeige=0&ADTRACTIONSLOT=detail_kontext) Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 22, 2011, 07:45:44 PM Chui the other problem is you said you have a white tank... or silver? make sure you sticker isn't under clearcoat. 2-Skinny I'm using this http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=35&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10020910 (http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=35&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10020910) but I'm going to change to this maybe this week. http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=35&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10020938 (http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=490&wgr=408&list_total=35&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10020938) and this is the light http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&artnr_gr=10033974&anzeige=0&ADTRACTIONSLOT=detail_kontext (http://www.louis.de/_40f6e488207ef263ab7f18e594cd01a7c7/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&artnr_gr=10033974&anzeige=0&ADTRACTIONSLOT=detail_kontext) f I am looking for the stock sticker in red, i should order them from ducattiperformance?? Thanks. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 22, 2011, 08:36:55 PM f I am looking for the stock sticker in red, i should order them from ducattiperformance?? Thanks. apparently the stock stickers only come in white, black and silver so you will have to go aftermarket. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 22, 2011, 11:36:21 PM apparently the stock stickers only come in white, black and silver so you will have to go aftermarket. thanks for your help. Can you get the information from Dave R? Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: asherrick on May 23, 2011, 08:40:30 AM Raux,
I really like your bike, but you really need an exhaust! Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 23, 2011, 09:43:35 AM Raux, I really like your bike, but you really need an exhaust! lol.. yeah i know.. i crushed my CF ones and tried to get a friend to fix up som Al cans for the pipes but it didnt work out. I have some old style megaphones but they are chrome and a smaller diameter inlet so there is some work to do. I really want to try something like the split Zards for the SC. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: ChrisH on May 23, 2011, 04:52:07 PM You can also buy logos in all sorts of colors here http://www.decal-orations.com/ (http://www.decal-orations.com/) get ready for a 6-8 week turnaround though.
Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 24, 2011, 08:04:49 PM apparently the stock stickers only come in white, black and silver so you will have to go aftermarket. Hi Raux, I get some information that the lower clapm is 53.52mm, do you know it will fit the 53mm front fork?? Thanks. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 24, 2011, 08:35:30 PM Hi Raux, I get some information that the lower clapm is 53.52mm, do you know it will fit the 53mm front fork?? Thanks. yeah sounds like the 796 are 53 mm forks. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: chiu on May 26, 2011, 11:04:24 AM yeah sounds like the 796 are 53 mm forks. Thanks Rauz!But i think i don't need to consider about the fork again. cause i am going to sell my 796 to the store and purchase a 1100s. I just paid the 1100s yesterday and will get the bike on next Tuesday. Title: Re: 1098s front fork on my M796 Post by: Raux on May 26, 2011, 11:45:42 AM Thanks Rauz! 'But i think i don't need to consider about the fork again. cause i am going to sell my 796 to the store and purchase a 1100s. I just paid the 1100s yesterday and will get the bike on next Tuesday. congratulations. great choice. |