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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: ducatigirl100 on July 07, 2011, 12:39:02 PM

Title: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 07, 2011, 12:39:02 PM
I sorry for posting again but I bought a real lemon  [bang]  [bang]

OK it's a 1995  900cc monster

Yesterday I was on a boulevard at 50 km  an hour and when I tried to pull the clutch the was no clutch!!!!  :o   ( no resistance!!)

Tanks to my incredible superheros  Blondie talent i manage to stop the bike witout the clutch [Dolph]  [thumbsup]  ;D    [bow_down]  ( yea!! try that just to see!! [ cheeky] )

So I've cheek  the lever it's OK ... and after that I've open the clutch  took out the spring ( yes in the Right order..opposite from each other !)   


What I see is the push rod is completely bent!!!   
:o


SO I look in the Hayne's manual  and they say that is just I've to slide it out of  but it's so bent that even whit "vise grips" i cannot move it one bit

I was wandering if the "slave cylinder" that is on the other side of the bike is holding it in ???     which would mean that i would have To bleed the clutch and take out the "slave cylinder ??....?

Or How do i get it out ???

+ now I'm taking the dealer to court. ..tanks my law degree !!".. ;D

for a quick resume
-starter motor fails
-clutch fails
-He sold me the bike whit half the breaks in front( only one rotor and only one caliper !!!)!!!
-ignition modules fails to...

What a lemon !!!
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: gage on July 07, 2011, 12:51:18 PM
You can take the slave cylinder off without bleeding the circuit. That said you may want to bleed that circuit. it's pretty easy. Do you have any pictures of the bent pushrod?
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 07, 2011, 01:41:06 PM
No ........the dealer just called me and they taking the bike tomorow morning to see everyting that wrong whit it ......  :)  [bow_down]  I'm hoping that i wil not have to do mechanic or the rest of the season ...I just wana ride  [Dolph]  :'(

Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: Howie on July 07, 2011, 03:49:01 PM
The real question here is why would the pushrod bend? 
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: Ddan on July 07, 2011, 04:27:39 PM
Quote from: howie on July 07, 2011, 03:49:01 PM
The real question here is why would the pushrod bend? 

+1, I've never heard of that
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: Slide Panda on July 07, 2011, 06:14:06 PM
Quote from: Dan on July 07, 2011, 04:27:39 PM
+1, I've never heard of that

++1 bent push rod is a first
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatiz on July 07, 2011, 06:43:53 PM
c'est une nouvelle pour moi.

...seul lors de l'installation pourrait-il etre plie....avez-vous des photos?
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 07, 2011, 08:36:54 PM
photo's wil come tomorow morning   ;D

Merci de parler fançais  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: uglyducky on July 07, 2011, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on July 07, 2011, 06:43:53 PM
c'est une nouvelle pour moi.

...seul lors de l'installation pourrait-il etre plie....avez-vous des photos?
show off  ;D
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 07:38:26 AM
So hers the photo  :)   we can clearly see an offset of the push rod....

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l517/jfran745218/th_clutch3.jpg)

After tinking about it, I've got the bike in may ...
since then each time I was going out...(  after 45min or an hour ) the clutch became really hard to use...I've hear many comment on how the clutch was heavy on a Ducati ...but I go to the gym 3 time a week so.... ;D   I tough after I saw  the push rod that bent i said to myself that maybe after an hour of riding the metal of the rod took some expansion due to the heat an due to that it was pushing towards the edges of the shaft.... witch in turn wasn't functioning properly    ( and yes I'm still overtinking everyting [roll] ;D  )
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 07:39:35 AM
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l517/jfran745218/clutch3.jpg)
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatiz on July 08, 2011, 08:00:41 AM
retirer le recepteur d'embrayage et d'examiner la tige hors du moteur ..

Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 09:36:12 AM
the dealer took the bike this morning and will see what's wrong whit it  [bow_down]  [clap] 

the basic idea was to take the rod out that was the purpose of the topic.... on the Hayne's manual they say that i just have to slide it out.  since it didn't work in my case I was wandering if something was actually holding it in place.??? ( once the pressure plate is out )

P.s. In French we always use mechanical terms in English  ;) it's easier to undersand   because I don't know what  "recepter d'embrayage"  means.    Probably french of France they use those french terms ..but here in Quebec where lazy learners  ;D  so we use the terms in English
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatiz on July 08, 2011, 09:40:45 AM
retirer le pushrod sounds weird...  :-)
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 09:44:05 AM
yeah but whe tell it like that....lol     tabarnak de Calise!!  ;D
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatiz on July 08, 2011, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 09:44:05 AM
yeah but whe tell it like that....lol     tabarnak de Calise!!  ;D

lol  i wonder how many willget that?

(http://dryden.eastmanhouse.org/media/holygrail.jpg)
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 09:56:43 AM
tabarnak de Calise   means that when something dosent work whe resolve the problem like this   Martin Matte - tabarnak de calisse d'ostie (Version longue) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sniMbSEzsg#normal)   [bang]  [bang]

;D  [popcorn]  ;D  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: Slide Panda on July 08, 2011, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 09:36:12 AM
the basic idea was to take the rod out that was the purpose of the topic.... on the Hayne's manual they say that i just have to slide it out.  since it didn't work in my case I was wandering if something was actually holding it in place.??? ( once the pressure plate is out )

The rod should slide out pretty easily. With the pressure plate removed, there is nothing holding it. It just rests in the passage through the engine.

Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 12:03:01 PM
tanks sad panda  [thumbsup]  that what i realy wanted to know  :)  ...and  share some of my Quebec culture to ...lol   ;D [laugh]
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: Ddan on July 08, 2011, 02:57:52 PM
Quote from: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 09:56:43 AM
tabarnak de Calise   means that when something dosent work whe resolve the problem like this   Martin Matte - tabarnak de calisse d'ostie (Version longue) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sniMbSEzsg#normal)   [bang]  [bang]

;D  [popcorn]  ;D  [thumbsup]

This is where hockey players come from    [laugh]
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 04:10:27 PM
Yeap!! Montreal Canada!!!

[bow_down] The  "Montreal  canadian"  bugest stanley cup winner's  [thumbsup]

Quote from: Dan on July 08, 2011, 02:57:52 PM
This is where hockey players come from    [laugh]

here even the girls look at hokey !! [laugh] ;D
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: koko64 on July 08, 2011, 04:36:41 PM
Any news from the dealer yet?

Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 08, 2011, 06:06:25 PM
the dealer wil probebly call me by the start of the week becose  it took it just this morning  i'll keep everybody in touch whti the news  :) 
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: koko64 on July 13, 2011, 09:57:56 PM
 [popcorn]
I am curious to know how the clutch push rod got bent? I have not seen it before.
[popcorn]
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: hawangatang on July 13, 2011, 10:09:59 PM
I'm sorry to go slightly off topic. My sister's M1100 is experiencing some clutch problems. There is no resistance at all until I squeeze it almost all the way down. Even then it feels like I'm power shifting. I guess it just feels like the clutch wasn't entirely engaged when I change gears. Which is a problem because I need to figure out how to fix it before Laguna Seca on the 22nd!

please help out!

hans
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: Ddan on July 14, 2011, 02:51:22 AM
Try bleeding it first
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 15, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
Quote from: koko64 on July 13, 2011, 09:57:56 PM
[popcorn]
I am curious to know how the clutch push rod got bent? I have not seen it before.
[popcorn]

I guess it's because of the clutch springs where used beyond the min specs .... i think that implied that the pressure plate was to "loose" not putting  sufficient pressure on the rod that bent ??? maybe because it's a Blonde guess... ;D
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 15, 2011, 02:44:15 PM
And i called the dealer yesterday ...they gone call me back next week.. ???.but I dont have new on the condition of the bike :'(
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 30, 2011, 06:24:46 PM
So here it is

The pushrod was bent by a Bering that went loose in the clutch ...that's what they told me so they replace the push rod and the Berings ...for the first time the bike woks like a charm ...looking forward to my vacation in 4 week !!!! [Dolph] ;D

tanks everyone  [thumbsup]  ;)
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: Howie on July 30, 2011, 06:46:39 PM
Glad to hear all is well  [beer]  (Maudite in the correct glass, of course)
Title: Re: Clutch problem !! no clutch!!
Post by: Langanobob on July 31, 2011, 11:17:32 AM
Quote from: ducatigirl100 on July 30, 2011, 06:24:46 PM
So here it is

The pushrod was bent by a Bering that went loose in the clutch ...that's what they told me so they replace the push rod and the Berings ...for the first time the bike woks like a charm ...looking forward to my vacation in 4 week !!!! [Dolph] ;D

tanks everyone  [thumbsup]  ;)

Glad to hear all is finally OK with your bike.   We've enjoyed having you here and hope you'll continue to participate, without any more bike problems of course!  Have a great vacation ride.