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Title: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on January 24, 2012, 06:49:39 AM
So I'm working my way to getting one of them dirty orange devils - currently a 530 EXC. If it works out this season will be one of more explorations and shenanigans! So Pepe et al, what have we got for unpaved stuff around here?

I'm figuring fire roads and trails at first to get my legs under me and the bike won't be sporting heavy duty knobbies - Distanzas or something similar so I don't die and/or get shaken to bits on the slab.

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: JoeP on January 24, 2012, 07:00:48 AM
A friend of mine put this together: http://tinyurl.com/6pwyby8 (http://tinyurl.com/6pwyby8)

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on January 24, 2012, 07:47:11 AM
Quote from: JoeP on January 24, 2012, 07:00:48 AM
A friend of mine put this together: http://tinyurl.com/6pwyby8 (http://tinyurl.com/6pwyby8)
Link doesn't work for me.  :-\

For what I know about VA, the best area is on the VA / WV border: get to Rt. 33 then go either North or South (or both). Here's a bit of a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Annandale,+VA&daddr=38.33266,-78.39747+to:Reddish+Knob,+North+River,+VA+22821+to:38.5188899,-79.2709039+to:38.57147,-79.26801+to:US-33+E+to:38.62925,-79.18034+to:Co+Route+3%2FSweedlin+Valley+to:38.6230009,-78.9862529+to:Walkbridge+Ln+to:Fulks+Run,+Plains,+VA+to:Long+Run+Rd+to:Forest+Road+85-2%2FHall+Spring+Rd+to:38.6108171,-79.1546833+to:US-33+W%2FRawley+Pike+to:US-33+E%2FRawley+Pike+to:VA-613%2FTurleytown+Rd+to:US-211+E%2FLee+Hwy+to:annandale+va&hl=en&ll=38.589504,-78.882523&spn=0.496989,1.056747&sll=38.609426,-79.152889&sspn=0.007763,0.016512&geocode=FTaBUAIdrhNm-ym3WV2HxEy2iTEQGMYM5wqrQA%3BFfToSAId4r9T-ylTk23aUWm0iTEB5nkK873avQ%3BFYnjSgIdGN5G-ynZzB1bsre0iTHjcMGowK64JA%3BFWnASwIdCWxG-yml4mnMmcm0iTH-IGSJ7JFo5g%3BFc6NTAIdVndG-ym5kr_iSMm0iTF7vAYcP-lczA%3BFVYFTQIdFa1H-w%3BFYJvTQIdzM1H-ylP-k_dEsW0iTHgmf6EfJJCdg%3BFQpmTgId6s5H-w%3BFRhXTQId9MNK-ykFqPrlcOi0iTGYNKF2IulCEw%3BFffQTQIdHH9L-w%3BFaDnTQId6_tL-ynhtuDUyeW0iTGsKgLfDr7aXA%3BFRmeTAIdXyhK-w%3BFUzhTQIdwjVJ-w%3BFYEnTQIdBTJI-ymHOaIO_sS0iTEKkvzsY12H0Q%3BFYatTAIdyANI-w%3BFcsySwIdA4JK-w%3BFQjWTAIdfjBM-w%3BFbz3TQId7D1V-w%3BFTaBUAIdrhNm-ym3WV2HxEy2iTEQGMYM5wqrQA&vpsrc=6&mra=dvme&mrsp=13&sz=17&via=1,3,4,6,8,13&t=m&z=11) that has some roads. I don't know of anything (in VA) closer to where you live tho, it's not my stomping grounds... ???

If you want to meet up by Whites Ferry I can lead you on some of my usual roads, I'll post a map when I have one... I think "ducati culture" would be interested as well so I'll PM him too. In the meanwhile you can check out our "regional" (http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=63) section on ADVRider.com. I'm subscribed to the Maryland Tag-O-Rama (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380871) thread, even tho I don't participate, it gives me ideas for roads to check out (that's how I found out about Hawbottom Rd  ;D).

Most dirt road fun, take 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la_3y6hhFuE#)

Don't worry too much about tires unless it's deep mud (such as in rivers... ), sand or snow. I have a pair of Tourance tires on the GS and they're fine for 90% of the time. It's more important to get the shocks setup for your weight.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: JoeP on January 24, 2012, 08:03:01 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on January 24, 2012, 07:47:11 AM
Link doesn't work for me.  :-\

Try this: http://www.more-mtb.org/forum/showpost.php?p=201418&postcount=1 (http://www.more-mtb.org/forum/showpost.php?p=201418&postcount=1) and click on the "database" link in the post. We've put together 60ish mile rides that were 90% dirt road, albeit on our human-powered bikes.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on January 24, 2012, 08:03:09 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on January 24, 2012, 07:47:11 AM
Link doesn't work for me.  :-\


Did for me - try the full nasty one here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=http:%2F%2Fmaps.google.com%2Fmaps%2Fms%3Fhl%3Den%26ie%3DUTF8%26vps%3D1%26jsv%3D310c%26msa%3D0%26output%3Dnl%26msid%3D212372218178490358197.00049a5a751bfc35c2558&aq=&sll=39.072734,-77.669563&ie=UTF8&z=10)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on January 24, 2012, 08:06:19 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on January 24, 2012, 07:47:11 AM
Don't worry too much about tires unless it's deep mud (such as in rivers... ), sand or snow. I have a pair of Tourance tires on the GS and they're fine for 90% of the time. It's more important to get the shocks setup for your weight.

Oh the tire comment was more based on the fact that the target bike has full on knobbies right now and I'm not even sure if they are road legal. Even if they are, they would shake the shit out of me.

Lucky thing is that it's been set up for a 200 pound rider. It'll probably need some tweaks as it's listed for to be set up for woods - which I'm not 100% sure how that translates. But that's my ignorance at play more than anything.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on January 24, 2012, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: JoeP on January 24, 2012, 08:03:01 AM
Try this: http://www.more-mtb.org/forum/showpost.php?p=201418&postcount=1 (http://www.more-mtb.org/forum/showpost.php?p=201418&postcount=1) and click on the "database" link in the post. We've put together 60ish mile rides that were 90% dirt road, albeit on our human-powered bikes.
Works perfectly, thanks!

Quote from: Sad Panda on January 24, 2012, 08:06:19 AM
Oh the tire comment was more based on the fact that the target bike has full on knobbies right now and I'm not even sure if they are road legal. Even if they are, they would shake the shit out of me.
Not to mention they would last about a thousand miles on the road...

Quote from: Sad Panda on January 24, 2012, 08:06:19 AM
Lucky thing is that it's been set up for a 200 pound rider. It'll probably need some tweaks as it's listed for to be set up for woods - which I'm not 100% sure how that translates. But that's my ignorance at play more than anything.
Not an expert, but I would assume it means pretty soft.

BTW, what's the maintenance like on the EXC?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on January 24, 2012, 08:43:56 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on January 24, 2012, 08:23:01 AM
BTW, what's the maintenance like on the EXC?

It's a little more needy that the 690 it seems - thought the 690 manual has the caveat of 'after each sporting outing' added to pretty much everything. I think the manual for the 530 was written assuming 'sporting outings' would be it's life and it'd be spending most/all of it in the dirt.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on January 24, 2012, 10:27:13 AM
YES!!!!!
The full knobbies are not to bad at 85.  I just picked up a set of trail wings.   I freaking love those dunlop 606

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on January 24, 2012, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on January 24, 2012, 07:47:11 AM
If you want to meet up by Whites Ferry I can lead you on some of my usual roads, I'll post a map when I have one... I think "ducati culture" would be interested as well so I'll PM him too. In the meanwhile you can check out our "regional" (http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=63) section on ADVRider.com. I'm subscribed to the Maryland Tag-O-Rama (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380871) thread, even tho I don't participate, it gives me ideas for roads to check out (that's how I found out about Hawbottom Rd  ;D).

heh - the board name of the person who started the MD tag-o-rama is Skyclad... If you don't know, look it up.

I'll have to check it out more - right now I don't have the new toy yet... so it's still in my mind...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on January 24, 2012, 01:12:54 PM
Here's my current map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202877363393598569862.0004b749673b79f42e716&msa=0&ll=39.267613,-77.319374&spn=0.153898,0.338173). I'll update it with some more roads when I have the time (need to dig through the history on my GPS).

BTW: Prices Distillery Rd. and W. Old Baltimore are the only roads I've found that ford a creek.

Edit: always happy to contradict myself (never been on this one tho...  [evil])

BW water (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVhVcSz5lyo#)

Found here: http://www.damnriders.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1903 (http://www.damnriders.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1903)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on January 25, 2012, 09:18:00 AM
ohhh YEA!  I am soo ready.  [drool] [Dolph] [popcorn]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: twolanefun on January 25, 2012, 09:50:37 AM
http://nvtr.groupsite.com/main/summary (http://nvtr.groupsite.com/main/summary) - Gene
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on January 25, 2012, 10:01:26 AM
Thanks Gene!
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: twolanefun on January 25, 2012, 10:27:16 AM
No problem, gave it a thought back 2 years ago to get back in the dirt, so did some research and found them. I belonged to NETRA http://www.netra.org/ (http://www.netra.org/)back in the day, back when real trail riding could be had and my Ossa and I spent almost every weekend racing an enduro and/or doing short track. I gave up on the idea of riding in the dirt again after a little get off on the S2R showed my how long it takes me to heal these days. - Gene
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: David Lowenstein on January 25, 2012, 01:54:00 PM
I think that might be the old site for NVTR (now renamed to WATR - Washington Area Trail Riders).  Here's the current WATR Yahoo Group that I'm subscribed to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/watr_members/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/watr_members/)

And here's the website: http://nvtr.webs.com/ (http://nvtr.webs.com/)

I joined WATR last year, primarily as a way to support their annual Eagle Bay Trail Ride in King George, which is an outstanding event that I've done for the last several years.  Eagle Bay is off-road only, but I think WATR also sponsors the annual Shenandoah 500 Dual-Sport event. The WATR guys seem like a great group, and they are very active - I see both off-road and dual-sport events (formal and informal) posted almost every week.

If I could figure out how to get a title for my CRF 250X (which is otherwise street-legal), I'd join you guys on some DS exploring (as long as it's more off road than on).

Dave
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: twolanefun on January 25, 2012, 01:59:04 PM
Do they still meet at that Italian Resturant in Falls Church? I think it was Anthony's. - Gene
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: David Lowenstein on January 25, 2012, 02:08:41 PM
Yes indeed.  Second Wednesday of every month at Anthony's (309 West Broad Street, FC).  I'm a bum and have never gone though  :(

Quote from: twolanefun on January 25, 2012, 01:59:04 PM
Do they still meet at that Italian Resturant in Falls Church? I think it was Anthony's. - Gene
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on January 27, 2012, 07:35:34 AM
Thinking of doing some riding tomorrow. Dirt and gravel roads up near Frederick. I'll post a map here later, anyone interested in joining let me know.

Quote from: dlowenst on January 25, 2012, 01:54:00 PM
I think that might be the old site for NVTR (now renamed to WATR - Washington Area Trail Riders).  Here's the current WATR Yahoo Group that I'm subscribed to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/watr_members/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/watr_members/)

And here's the website: http://nvtr.webs.com/ (http://nvtr.webs.com/)

I joined WATR last year, primarily as a way to support their annual Eagle Bay Trail Ride in King George, which is an outstanding event that I've done for the last several years.  Eagle Bay is off-road only, but I think WATR also sponsors the annual Shenandoah 500 Dual-Sport event. The WATR guys seem like a great group, and they are very active - I see both off-road and dual-sport events (formal and informal) posted almost every week.

If I could figure out how to get a title for my CRF 250X (which is otherwise street-legal), I'd join you guys on some DS exploring (as long as it's more off road than on).

Dave
Dave, thanks for the links! Hmmm Shenandoah 500!  [drool]  



EDIT: Here's the map (http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Clarksburg+Rd&daddr=Prices+Distillery+Rd+to:Price+Rd+to:Dr+Perry+Rd+to:Lily+Pons+Rd+to:Poffenberger+Rd+to:Roy+Shafer+Rd+to:Hawbottom+Rd+to:Fishing+Creek+Rd+to:Highland+School+Rd+to:Hawbottom+Road,+Frederick,+MD+to:Paul+Rudy+Rd+to:Poffenberger+Rd+to:Sigler+Rd+to:Lander+Rd+to:Mt+Ephraim+Rd+to:W+Old+Baltimore+Rd+to:N+Frederick+Rd&hl=en&sll=39.239258,-77.28075&sspn=0.004338,0.010568&geocode=FVq7VgIdwsRk-w%3BFYG5VwId6K1k-w%3BFW7AVwIdWS1k-w%3BFV5uVwIdMq9j-w%3BFaSYVwId-Epi-w%3BFWMIWQIdwT9g-w%3BFfCQWQIdJrBg-w%3BFZeLWgIdElRh-w%3BFa9eWwIdq8Vh-w%3BFawKWwIdUCth-w%3BFaOTWgIdbVJh-ynvJeZpIcPJiTGMKTy9uHzKuQ%3BFcVGWQIdjqJg-w%3BFeXLWAId6rNg-w%3BFVRPWAIdtLFg-w%3BFUfBVwIdiZ1g-w%3BFdtAVwIdcPNi-w%3BFYxrVgIdPDxk-w%3BFYPBVgIdNclk-w&oq=price+rd&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=17&t=m&z=17).  8)

If anyone wants to come along I'll be at the Liberty gas station in Clarksburg, MD from 10:30 to 10:45.  [Dolph]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on January 29, 2012, 07:16:27 PM
Teaser for next time:      ;D

Prices Distillery Rd.
(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-01-28/FordOnPricesDistilleryRd-1.jpeg)

Delauter Rd.
(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-01-28/FordOnDelauterRd-3.jpeg)

Sigler Rd.
(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-01-28/FordOn_SiglerRd-3.jpeg)

West Old Baltimore Rd.
(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-01-28/FordOnWestOldBaltimoreRd-3.jpeg)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on February 01, 2012, 03:50:04 PM
Comin' for ya Pepe... got a deal on a 690 Enduro
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on February 03, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: Sad Panda on February 01, 2012, 03:50:04 PM
Comin' for ya Pepe... got a deal on a 690 Enduro

lets do it.... [clap] [clap] [clap] [Dolph]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on February 03, 2012, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: ducati culture on February 03, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
lets do it.... [clap] [clap] [clap] [Dolph]

I think he is going to leave you and Pepe behind if given half a chance...so try and keep him from meeting the cast of deliverance...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on February 04, 2012, 06:57:42 PM
Finally found the time to put a video together.

Creek Crossings Near Frederick, MD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1MoPWZRmIQ#)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: tocino on February 05, 2012, 06:36:56 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on February 04, 2012, 06:57:42 PM
Finally found the time to put a video together.

You gotta love this site - got a little bit of everything, including some guy riding through puddles.


And yes, of course I just watched said video.  ;D Nice production values!
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: rgramjet on February 05, 2012, 07:53:51 AM
Just try to avoid this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJovmL4o4Cs&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJovmL4o4Cs&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on February 05, 2012, 08:35:53 AM
Quote from: rgramjet on February 05, 2012, 07:53:51 AM
Just try to avoid this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJovmL4o4Cs&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJovmL4o4Cs&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Hah, nice! My wife will probably freak out but when our kids are old enough I plan to get them running on two wheels!  [laugh]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: rgramjet on February 05, 2012, 10:29:44 AM
It's good!  Wish I had your video editing skillz!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flBvfVb0W48&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flBvfVb0W48&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Real Recognize Real on February 05, 2012, 03:22:06 PM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on February 05, 2012, 08:35:53 AM
Hah, nice! My wife will probably freak out but when our kids are old enough I plan to get them running on two wheels!  [laugh]

I think our wives think alike cause mine is absolutely terrified by the idea that our kid wants to ride a motorcycle. ;D
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on February 28, 2012, 07:52:02 AM
Planning on a ride this weekend, Saturday might be rainy but it will also be (relatively) warm. Haven't decided on a route yet, maybe Frederick Municipal Forest or new roads around Harpers Ferry...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on February 28, 2012, 08:16:06 AM
Hrm still working on the KTM a bit- we'll see what can be done in time for the weekend . Also I need a stand/lift to swap the wheels. I'm guessing you're looking at dirty roads Pepe?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on February 28, 2012, 08:35:28 AM
you don't need a stand...all you need is a milkcrate really
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on February 28, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Hmmm hmmm hmmm...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on February 28, 2012, 08:47:36 AM
Quote from: zooom on February 28, 2012, 08:35:28 AM
you don't need a stand...all you need is a milkcrate really
You don't need a milk crate... all you need are some cardboard boxes, put them flat on the ground and lay the bike over them! [laugh]

I use a couple of jack stands under the frame lowers...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on February 28, 2012, 09:05:25 AM
Might be able to pull that off. It's a bit crowded due to the crap my wife's stashed there and taken a see-no-evil stance on. But it might be doable.

Been getting down an dirty with maintenance items... bike was in good shape but needed tending too.
Brake fluids looked more like good rum than cheep beer.
Plastic sucked into the filter
Chain too slack and guide in the wrong slot
Rear brake pedal that was set way to high to be useful

I do need to get the silly inspection done though... running out of my 30 day grace. But that might wait until March so I don't get cheesed out of a month.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on February 28, 2012, 06:32:36 PM
Not so much with the milk crate. Might work for an MX bike... but at 300+ pounds I can't make the lift to get it up on one
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on March 01, 2012, 05:54:00 AM
Weather's calling for 100% rain and t-storms on sat.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 01, 2012, 07:03:16 AM
Quote from: Sad Panda on March 01, 2012, 05:54:00 AM
Weather's calling for 100% rain and t-storms on sat.
Just checked weather.com and they mention "potential for severe thunderstorms"...[thumbsdown]
I'll be in the garage working on Bianca...[thumbsup]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on March 01, 2012, 10:50:02 AM
Quote from: Sad Panda on February 28, 2012, 08:16:06 AM
Hrm still working on the KTM a bit- we'll see what can be done in time for the weekend . Also I need a stand/lift to swap the wheels. I'm guessing you're looking at dirty roads Pepe?

I have what u need bro
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on March 01, 2012, 10:56:42 AM
We'll see. Saturday's a bust anyway. Just as well, I need to finish the refresh on the Monster Forks and get that bike rolling again. It looks a bike sad with this front all apart.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on March 02, 2012, 05:26:47 AM
Teehehe - a 2nd set of plastics are on ebay for cheep. Might have to snag a few bits for the offroad kit. Gotta drill some holes to fit the grab rails.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on March 02, 2012, 08:17:57 AM
I like grab rails  [popcorn]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on March 07, 2012, 12:06:14 PM
DMF refugee Bug just showed me this
http://damnriders.org/ (http://damnriders.org/)

Doing a little peeping and seeing what's what.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 08, 2012, 12:46:56 PM
Their Creek Crossings & Dirt Roads (http://damnriders.org/viewforum.php?f=8) was useful when I plotted my routes.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 27, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
Heading out for some riding in NOVA (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=206456430424524429215.0004bc3b9921da9810729&msa=0&ll=39.100226,-77.582016&spn=0.4945,1.056747) tomorrow. [evil]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on March 27, 2012, 11:40:41 AM
Bring your wet gear.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 27, 2012, 12:35:18 PM
Quote from: Sad Panda on March 27, 2012, 11:40:41 AM
Bring your wet gear.
I know, I have a few options if I want/need to bail early. We'll see if the weather will stand up to the hype...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on March 27, 2012, 12:37:11 PM
Take video :) Maybe I'll put on the dirt shoes and chase the Pepe trail this weekend.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on March 27, 2012, 02:18:12 PM
What time... I gotta be on the bike tommrrow regardless  >:(  butI assume you will be riding and I will be working  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 29, 2012, 09:12:49 AM
While riding the back roads of NoVa, I found myself in what seemed to be the UK... (including eventually the rain :P)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wmPwwZrK1mM/T3PSiIQW4SI/AAAAAAAAAkg/wBo1hzvQivY/s800/2012-03-28%252013.36.31.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ei8fcmboTng/T3PSaxyqK8I/AAAAAAAAAkY/W4rpQ7AMCOw/s800/2012-03-28%252013.37.22.jpg)

[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: JoeP on March 29, 2012, 09:20:42 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on March 29, 2012, 09:12:49 AM
While riding the back roads of NoVa, I found myself in what seemed to be the UK... (including eventually the rain :P)


Where is that?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 29, 2012, 09:35:28 AM
Quote from: JoeP on March 29, 2012, 09:20:42 AM
Where is that?
Hunter's Head Tavern (http://www.huntersheadtavern.com/HuntersHead/HHHome.html)

9048 John S. Mosby Hwy (Route 50) Upperville, VA 20184
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: JoeP on March 29, 2012, 10:13:39 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on March 29, 2012, 09:35:28 AM
Hunter's Head Tavern (http://www.huntersheadtavern.com/HuntersHead/HHHome.html)

9048 John S. Mosby Hwy (Route 50) Upperville, VA 20184


Thanks! I'll be heading over there soon...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on May 04, 2012, 03:13:25 PM
Tomorrow. (http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Rattlesnake+Run+Rd&daddr=Teaberry+Rd+to:Forest+Rd+to:Forest+Rd%2FStoney+Mountain+Rd+to:Staley+Rd+to:PA-233+N%2FMont+Alto+Rd+to:Oak+Rd+to:Forest+Rd+to:Wirt+Rd+to:Old+Forge+Rd+to:Staley+Rd+to:Currans+Rd+to:Rattlesnake+Run+Rd&hl=en&ll=39.79482,-77.420311&spn=0.244796,0.528374&sll=39.819217,-77.444172&sspn=0.122355,0.264187&geocode=Fd9yXgIdqZNh-w%3BFehLYAIdsnxi-w%3BFdmUYAIdwKBh-w%3BFaLTXwIdJ1lh-w%3BFQLGXwIdZvtg-w%3BFfTlXwId9tBg-w%3BFWR7XwId17dg-w%3BFekqXwIdIepg-w%3BFXVNXwIdXkJh-w%3BFX48XwId_a1h-w%3BFX6dXwIdcEdh-w%3BFZ3TXwIdCY1h-w%3BFax3XgId5JJh-w&mra=pr&t=m&z=12) ;D



(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-05-05/michaux_01-med.jpeg)

(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-05-05/michaux_04-med.jpeg)

(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-05-05/michaux_06-med.jpeg)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Curmudgeon on May 06, 2012, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on March 29, 2012, 09:12:49 AM
While riding the back roads of NoVa, I found myself in what seemed to be the UK... (including eventually the rain :P)
My Morgan mechanic works out of a place just a stone's throw from there http://www.britishandclassics.com/test/index.asp (http://www.britishandclassics.com/test/index.asp) and we had lunch there in February. The food is decent and it truly does resemble a genuine decent English country pub but I was seriously disappointed that they had not one single Real Ale. Seems they are all winos in that place.  :'( For the food I'd go back though. Really a pity as a good pint in that garden would be great in decent weather!
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on May 07, 2012, 12:20:57 PM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on May 04, 2012, 03:13:25 PM
Tomorrow. (http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Rattlesnake+Run+Rd&daddr=Teaberry+Rd+to:Forest+Rd+to:Forest+Rd%2FStoney+Mountain+Rd+to:Staley+Rd+to:PA-233+N%2FMont+Alto+Rd+to:Oak+Rd+to:Forest+Rd+to:Wirt+Rd+to:Old+Forge+Rd+to:Staley+Rd+to:Currans+Rd+to:Rattlesnake+Run+Rd&hl=en&ll=39.79482,-77.420311&spn=0.244796,0.528374&sll=39.819217,-77.444172&sspn=0.122355,0.264187&geocode=Fd9yXgIdqZNh-w%3BFehLYAIdsnxi-w%3BFdmUYAIdwKBh-w%3BFaLTXwIdJ1lh-w%3BFQLGXwIdZvtg-w%3BFfTlXwId9tBg-w%3BFWR7XwId17dg-w%3BFekqXwIdIepg-w%3BFXVNXwIdXkJh-w%3BFX48XwId_a1h-w%3BFX6dXwIdcEdh-w%3BFZ3TXwIdCY1h-w%3BFax3XgId5JJh-w&mra=pr&t=m&z=12) ;D



(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-05-05/michaux_01-med.jpeg)

(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-05-05/michaux_04-med.jpeg)

(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012-05-05/michaux_06-med.jpeg)


I am so envious!  :o 8) :o
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on May 07, 2012, 04:45:07 PM
Quote from: ducati culture on May 07, 2012, 12:20:57 PM
I am so envious!  :o 8) :o

Good times! ;D

Biesecker Gap Road - HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46gw5uw5ZU#)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on May 08, 2012, 06:45:25 AM
AWESOME!
[popcorn]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on May 14, 2012, 06:02:02 AM
My more reasonable DS tires arrive mid week and I hope I can get them on Sat when I help my shop owner buddy with computer stuff... I'll (hopefully) get to avail myself of his no-mar changer.

So Pepe - what's available closer to ARL need to cut my teeth on the dirt again. If all goes off I'll be up in UP UP state NY for a bit this summer. No heavy offroad but plenty of country.

Looking over more off road oriented gear... After this weekend on the KTM in my street boots I've found that I like riding it with the Sumo/MX boots A LOT more. Can't hook into the bike the same way, had a harder time gripping the tank/chassis. They might look a little crazy on the roads, but man they make a difference on that bike
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on May 14, 2012, 07:38:46 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on May 14, 2012, 06:02:02 AM
So Pepe - what's available closer to ARL need to cut my teeth on the dirt again. If all goes off I'll be up in UP UP state NY for a bit this summer. No heavy offroad but plenty of country.
This is my NOVA dirt loop (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=206456430424524429215.0004bc3b9921da9810729&msa=0) from a couple weeks ago. I based my route on the Loundoun Dirt Road Database Master (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http:%2F%2Fmaps.google.com%2Fmaps%2Fms%3Fhl%3Den%26ie%3DUTF8%26vps%3D1%26jsv%3D310c%26msa%3D0%26output%3Dnl%26msid%3D212372218178490358197.00049a5a751bfc35c2558&hl=en&sll=39.072734,-77.669563&t=m&z=11). You'll have to head NW a bit, but it's definitely worth it! [Dolph]

I don't even think of riding dirt without the MX boots, they protect much better than riding boots and keep mud, water and $#it out! [laugh] BTW, what DS tires are you getting?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on May 14, 2012, 07:45:46 AM
Well this is even on the road. I got the crossfire SRS boots with a set of SuMo Soles on presently.  So much better on the KTM... can get a grip - knees are right in the cut outs.. just right. With the street boots just not as solid feeling, knees not right etc.

Got some of the pirelli MT90s. Found good prices  - just under $200 for the set. Figured they would do well around here. Presently there's a TKC 80 on the rear and a Michelin Desert on the front - more knobs that needed here and I bet the front would be done in a weekend or two with the paved miles it'd face.

- Care to expand that Loudon one? Care for collaborators?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on May 14, 2012, 09:36:25 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on May 14, 2012, 07:45:46 AM
- Care to expand that Loudon one? Care for collaborators?
I didn't create the Loudon map, I found the link google-ing around.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on May 14, 2012, 09:55:39 AM
Oh gotcha. Hmmm, wonder if there's a way to duplicate an existing map and branch it... hmmm
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on May 25, 2012, 11:01:05 AM
SPOOOOOON!

Got some and now have an MT90 on the front so I won't die due to a full knobbie front not stopping the bike on the roads around here.... Gotta see about the rear

But might be play time soon Pepe
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on May 28, 2012, 10:44:19 AM
Have SuMo, will travel

(http://yuu.smugmug.com/photos/i-pWck8MC/0/XL/i-pWck8MC-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on June 03, 2012, 07:51:11 AM
Fit the dirt tires and took on most of Pepes NOVA dirt road loop - running counter-clockwise (ish). I had to bail for home at snickersville to zip east on account of time - so I missed the creek crossing :( maybe next te I run it the opposed direction  

Took a couple wrong turns/over shoots - found some 3-5 inch deep gravel. Do not like.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on June 04, 2012, 10:27:47 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on June 03, 2012, 07:51:11 AM
Took a couple wrong turns/over shoots - found some 3-5 inch deep gravel. Do not like.
Quaker Lane? Irish Corner Rd?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on June 04, 2012, 10:38:46 AM
Irish corner. Didn't make it to Quaker. Had to bail on account of time when it crossed Snickersville.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: tocino on June 08, 2012, 02:17:48 PM
Turns out you don't need a Motard to ride in the dirt (sand)!  [laugh]

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/yamaha-r1-sand-dunes/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/yamaha-r1-sand-dunes/)

Check out the hand-cut treads - talent!
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 03, 2012, 05:27:18 AM
If anyone else wants to come 'adventure' as much as NOVA allows for - Pepe and I are meeting up Sunday morning to take on some dirt roads and creek crossing(s)

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: David Lowenstein on August 03, 2012, 09:52:32 AM
Or if anyone wants to ditch the pavement entirely, I'll be riding the dirtbike at Wicomico on Sunday  :)

http://www.wicomicomotorsportspark.com/ (http://www.wicomicomotorsportspark.com/)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: rgramjet on August 03, 2012, 01:28:44 PM
Quote from: dlowenst on August 03, 2012, 09:52:32 AM
Or if anyone wants to ditch the pavement entirely, I'll be riding the dirtbike at Wicomico on Sunday  :)

http://www.wicomicomotorsportspark.com/ (http://www.wicomicomotorsportspark.com/)

That place looks pretty cool!  Is it all jumps and fast pace or could a utility quad have fun too?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: David Lowenstein on August 03, 2012, 02:13:33 PM
It's a pretty good place - definitely the best legal place that I'm aware of, that's within an hour or so of DC.  It's the former "Southern Maryland ATV Park" if you were familiar with that, although the new owners have radically transformed the place, connecting all the separate woods trails into a single, single-direction trail which is much better and more fun.

They have a decent track, with jumps and the ability to go good and fast if that's your intention.  But we ride the woods trails, which are an excellent mix of fast dirt, roots, mud & loose stuff, hill climbs, and even some sandy bits.  Most of the trails (and the track) are suitable for ATVs but there's a limited amount of single-track as well.

Dave

Quote from: rgramjet on August 03, 2012, 01:28:44 PM
That place looks pretty cool!  Is it all jumps and fast pace or could a utility quad have fun too?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on August 06, 2012, 06:23:11 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on August 03, 2012, 05:27:18 AM
If anyone else wants to come 'adventure' as much as NOVA allows for - Pepe and I are meeting up Sunday morning to take on some dirt roads and creek crossing(s)
Got a little more adventure than we asked for but good times none the less! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 06, 2012, 06:32:14 AM
Yep... tools were involved and so was bad language. Short version is that KTM made some dumb decisions about with harness plugs. They used ones on an 'off road' bike that all to readily allow in water.

mercifully an easy fix once figured out. But a fix that shouldn't have had to happen.

On the fun side - we almost had a brand new 1199 all of our own after the owner left the key in the ignition and went into the starbucks @ River and Falls
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducFrank on August 06, 2012, 12:53:05 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on August 06, 2012, 06:32:14 AM
Yep... tools were involved and so was bad language. Short version is that KTM made some dumb decisions about with harness plugs. They used ones on an 'off road' bike that all to readily allow in water.

mercifully an easy fix once figured out. But a fix that shouldn't have had to happen.

On the fun side - we almost had a brand new 1199 all of our own after the owner left the key in the ignition and went into the starbucks @ River and Falls

Can you say "Track Bike"?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 06, 2012, 12:54:45 PM
Quote from: ducFrank on August 06, 2012, 12:53:05 PM
Can you say "Track Bike"?

Ride it like you stole it...

Oh wait, Ride it as you *have* stolen it
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on August 08, 2012, 08:45:47 AM
 [popcorn] [popcorn]

Dang it.... 
MOre more  [popcorn]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 08, 2012, 09:14:48 AM
More more what?

More Massimo? Ok

(http://yuu.smugmug.com/photos/i-2JvhZ3L/0/O/i-2JvhZ3L.png)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on August 09, 2012, 05:18:15 AM
Quote from: ducati culture on August 08, 2012, 08:45:47 AM
[popcorn] [popcorn]

Dang it.... 
MOre more  [popcorn]
I've got nothing; for some stupid reason ( ME ), my cam's battery was dead so I couldn't record anything... [bang]


How about you stop making up excuses and join us next time?!? ;D
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 09, 2012, 05:19:18 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on August 09, 2012, 05:18:15 AM
How about you stop making up excuses and join us next time?!? ;D

Oh SNAP!
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 09, 2012, 09:06:01 AM
Pondering some Dunlop 606s and some different gearing for some shenanigans one the weather cools. Mmmm knobblies.

Those pirellis are nice enough on pavement and packed stuff... but man anything sandy or gravel  and they nervous as anything... In hind sight I wish I'd taken a photo of the pretty big slalom fishtail I got going up in NY on an uphill section of sandy road. Being too dumb to panic hand the tail going from side to side spraying crap while I was going "oh dear, this ain't good"

Next time we'll have to get some video. Though in some weird inverse way, having a camera running will prevent anything odd happening like the *mighty* KTM shitting the bed due to a few drops of water in the wrong spot.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on August 09, 2012, 11:54:27 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on August 09, 2012, 09:06:01 AM
Though in some weird inverse way, having a camera running will prevent anything odd happening like the *mighty* KTM shitting the bed due to a few drops of water in the wrong spot.
"KTM offers superior offroad and street motorcycles with an outstanding design...." (http://jediphoenix.com/public/style_emoticons/default/th_wank.gif)

I've started buying all my tires, tubes, etc from American Motorcyle Tire (http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/). Free shipping and best prices I could find anywhere. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 09, 2012, 11:56:05 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on August 09, 2012, 11:54:27 AM
"KTM offers superior offroad and street motorcycles with an outstanding design...." (http://jediphoenix.com/public/style_emoticons/default/th_wank.gif)

Just don't get them wet, or feed them after midnight, or expose to sunlight...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on August 09, 2012, 12:54:39 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on August 09, 2012, 05:19:18 AM
Oh SNAP!

I know I know.... Hopefully next time.   [Dolph]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on August 31, 2012, 05:23:11 PM
Just registered for the Shenandoah 500 (http://watr.us/)!  ;D

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 01, 2012, 06:34:06 AM
You saw this bit right

" Your bike must be fully street-licensed, with a hard tag or a documented temporary tag. You must show current and matching registration for your bike, as well as a valid drivers license and current AMA membership card. Your bike must be equipped with a USFS-approved spark arrestor and pass the AMA sound test."

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: tocino on September 01, 2012, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on August 31, 2012, 05:23:11 PM
Just registered for the Shenandoah 500 (http://watr.us/)!  ;D

Sweet! What's the details? 500 miles? Dual Sport?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 01, 2012, 09:04:05 AM
500km dual sport.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on September 01, 2012, 10:08:20 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on September 01, 2012, 06:34:06 AM
You saw this bit right

" Your bike must be fully street-licensed, with a hard tag or a documented temporary tag. You must show current and matching registration for your bike, as well as a valid drivers license and current AMA membership card. Your bike must be equipped with a USFS-approved spark arrestor and pass the AMA sound test."
Yeah, I've done my homework, I can get get AMA card on site and I'll put the original BMW muffler back on. Most of these regulations are aimed at people with their racing dirt bikes. The organizers want to focus on the ride (vs race) part of the event.


Quote from: tocino on September 01, 2012, 07:13:29 AM
Sweet! What's the details? 500 miles? Dual Sport?
registration here: http://watr.us (http://watr.us)

thread on ADVRider for 2011: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715301&highlight=shenadoah (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715301&highlight=shenadoah)
thread on ADVRider for 2012: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819589 (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819589)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on September 12, 2012, 01:28:28 PM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on September 01, 2012, 10:08:20 AM
Yeah, I've done my homework, I can get get AMA card on site and I'll put the original BMW muffler back on. Most of these regulations are aimed at people with their racing dirt bikes. The organizers want to focus on the ride (vs race) part of the event.

registration here: http://watr.us (http://watr.us)

thread on ADVRider for 2011: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715301&highlight=shenadoah (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715301&highlight=shenadoah)
thread on ADVRider for 2012: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819589 (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819589)


I will join you next year... I promise   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on September 23, 2012, 07:54:29 PM
Went for a little ride with the wifey today. Here we're crossing the creek on Prices Distillery Rd, and we got a bit of a surprise...  8)  :o  [laugh]

surprise creek crossing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SANBmjj3W44#)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Autohag on September 24, 2012, 06:10:32 AM
Clean gear! ;D
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 24, 2012, 06:12:51 AM
At least it wasn't the surprise I got when we crossed that creek.

Pretty brave doing a creek 2-up I must say.

How was that 500k ride? Or is that still to come?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on September 24, 2012, 07:45:04 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on September 24, 2012, 06:12:51 AM
At least it wasn't the surprise I got when we crossed that creek.

Pretty brave doing a creek 2-up I must say.

How was that 500k ride? Or is that still to come?
I wasn't really concerned since that's the 2nd or 3rd time we've crossed that creek together, and I've lost count of how many times I've done it solo. Plus the water looked really shallow ...  except for one spot that is!  [laugh] [laugh]

Shenny 500 (~300 miles) will be on the weekend of Oct 6th & 7th. I just ordered a spare 21" Heavy Duty tube for the front since the current one got beat up quite a bit when I mounted the T63 front. [bang] I also bought a Motion Pro tire spoon (http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=632_666_673) with a hex wrench on one end for the rear axle nut and a 5.10 Shinko 244 (http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=200_921_925&products_id=5270) rear that should give me better grip on the loose stuff.

Depending on how the Shenny 500 works out, I'm thinking of doing the Pine Barrens 300 (http://www.pinebarrens500.org/) (miles) in April next year...  [drool]

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on September 24, 2012, 08:10:04 AM
I had a buddy of mine mention to me he has an extra "ticket" for it that he was kinda offering me...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: David Lowenstein on September 24, 2012, 08:14:10 AM
I've never ridden there, but I've read two radically different ride reports on the PB300, both from very experienced dual-sport riders.  I think it's really interesting how divergent they are, and makes me wonder if they make substantial changes in the route from year to year
:

From a long-standing WATR member:

"I just wanted to share some of what we experienced on our Pine Barrens 300 ride.... It was great.

Adam and I road our adventure bikes to and from the event. Andy showed up with the trusty Honda 600 to let the sand fly. The PB 300 is a GPS guided event. There are markers in the tighter enduro portions, but the rest is naked forest - you need the GPS to stay on course. Chris, a previous Dakar rider, helped me understand how to use my GPS and by day two I felt comfortable with navigation. It was over 300 miles in two days. The conditions were perfect. Temps were in the 60's and sand was moist. Nice traction and no dust. You can really haul the mail in these conditions. You can check with Andy, but I'm pretty sure he tapped out his 600 for miles on end at times.

Jack, the organizer, put together a great mix of wide open sand roads, fire cuts, water crossings and some tighter sections just to keep us honest. Everything is big bike friendly. No two strokes at this event. It's a course that favors big bore machines while being 90 percent off-road. We attended the Saturday night dinner which gave us the opportunity to meet with some of the guys from the various clubs in Jersey. The event has strong sponsorship from BMW of Manhattan and Twisted Throttle which both offered goodies and services.

I loved riding this course on my 990 and hope we can get more WATR members to join us in the Spring for the next running of this event. Don't take my word for it. Ask Adam and Andy. Check it out on ADV Rider forums.

If you like the dirt part of your dual sport riding more than the asphalt part you'll probably like this ride as much as I did."

And this from another dual-sport group I'm part of:

"Uh...a word of warning.  You will see sand.  And tight trails.  I mean stupid tight.  And whoops.  Freaking miles and miles of whoops.  Sand whoops.  Four feet tall sand whoops.  If you can figure out how to ride miles of them then you are a better man than I.  I've done a handful of enduros up there.  There are some decent trails.  But you will spend a lot of time in deep sand.  Good for learning, but really can sap your energy....I guess I just like rocks better."

It's possible that the difference has to do with the kind of bike they are riding.  The second guy rides streetable dirtbikes, e.g., 250 or 450 4-strokes, whereas the first guy is riding bikes more similar to yours (I think).

Dave

Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on September 24, 2012, 07:45:04 AM

Depending on how the Shenny 500 works out, I'm thinking of doing the Pine Barrens 300 (http://www.pinebarrens500.org/) (miles) in April next year...  [drool]

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on September 24, 2012, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: zooom on September 24, 2012, 08:10:04 AM
I had a buddy of mine mention to me he has an extra "ticket" for it that he was kinda offering me...
So what are you waiting for?


Quote from: dlowenst on September 24, 2012, 08:14:10 AM
It's possible that the difference has to do with the kind of bike they are riding.  The second guy rides streetable dirtbikes, e.g., 250 or 450 4-strokes, whereas the first guy is riding bikes more similar to yours (I think).

Dave
Probably depends on the bike, rider, weather... I'm guessing wet sand is easier to ride through than dry....

Here's some pics from this year's pre ride link: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=748889&page=3 (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=748889&page=3)
(http://sallydog.smugmug.com/photos/i-LrR4QJR/0/L/i-LrR4QJR-L.jpg)(http://sallydog.smugmug.com/photos/i-2R74R2F/0/L/i-2R74R2F-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 24, 2012, 09:33:21 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on September 24, 2012, 09:18:08 AM
Probably depends on the bike, rider, weather... I'm guessing wet sand is easier to ride through than dry....

Shit yeah it is.

Ever run at the beach? Same idea - lot easier to run in the wet area where the waves keep it wet and packed. Dry you sink in and throw shit all over
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on September 24, 2012, 10:07:51 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on September 24, 2012, 09:18:08 AM
So what are you waiting for?

someone to loan me a bike suitable for this event...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 24, 2012, 10:10:09 AM
You've got a gran can... looks more suitable than an old honda cruiser  ;D
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Autohag on September 24, 2012, 10:32:26 AM
In case you missed it: The Raiden Files - Portland to Dakar - A Riding Movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTvYAcJOx3s#)

Some tips here for riding sand/beach/snow/etc...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on September 24, 2012, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: Autohag on September 24, 2012, 10:32:26 AM
In case you missed it: The Raiden Files - Portland to Dakar - A Riding Movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTvYAcJOx3s#)

Some tips here for riding sand/beach/snow/etc...

[roll]   [laugh]  [laugh]  [laugh]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Autohag on September 24, 2012, 11:32:11 AM
What? No glow sticks for you? ;D
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on September 24, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: Autohag on September 24, 2012, 11:32:11 AM
What? No glow sticks for you? ;D
Have you seen my jacket?  [laugh]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on September 24, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on September 24, 2012, 10:10:09 AM
You've got a gran can... looks more suitable than an old honda cruiser  ;D

Gran Canyon needs new tires before it'd even "think" of doing the Shenny500...and I am not sure I want to "invest" in new tires on it since I am seriously thinking about parting ways with it altogether....the guy that I would potentially be riding with that offered me the ticket would be likely to ride his 950 Super Enduro R....
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on September 27, 2012, 06:40:24 AM
What size is the front on the GC? 17", 19"? I can help you with a rear Tourance.

Some folks over at ADVRider are organizing a touristic ride through Michaux State Forest in mid-to-late October to enjoy the foliage. I plan on going, link here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632871&page=43 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632871&page=43)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on September 27, 2012, 06:42:07 AM
19" on the front...a 100-90-19 to be exact...

the rear is a 150-70-17...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 27, 2012, 06:42:51 AM
Quote from: zooom on September 24, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
950 Super Enduro R....

So not fair!

Though that's a bit of a biggun...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on September 27, 2012, 06:53:00 AM
Quote from: zooom on September 27, 2012, 06:42:07 AM
19" on the front...a 100-90-19 to be exact...

the rear is a 150-70-17...

I've got a SHINKO 705 110/80-19 TL front and a METZELER Tourance 130/80-17 Radial TL if you want. Tubes or Tube-less for you?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 27, 2012, 06:54:01 AM
Tubes for the grand can right?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on September 27, 2012, 08:41:34 AM
YUP, the CGC is a tuber...
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on September 27, 2012, 09:09:02 AM
I'll bring the tubes you bring the baby powder!  [laugh]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on September 27, 2012, 10:56:48 AM
[slapsforehead] geez luhweez [/slapsforehead]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on September 27, 2012, 01:50:47 PM
ok.. Iam going to go out on a limb and say... I will make this event,,,  ;D
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on October 09, 2012, 05:43:11 AM
Hope it went better than this

Baron von Nightmare - GSXR Off Roading... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqgEl53x7CM#)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 10, 2012, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on October 09, 2012, 05:43:11 AM
Hope it went better than this
Sort of...

(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012_shenny500/IMG-20121006-00028.jpg)

(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012_shenny500/IMG-20121006-00027.jpg)

(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012_shenny500/IMG-20121006-00026.jpg)

Both the GS and I took a pretty good beating, but it was great!

Lessons learned:
- get good gear, doesn't need to be expensive, but it does need to protect the areas at risk. I had one fall where the bike landed on my right leg, pinning it down to rocks and tree stubs. My boots held up fine and I didn't even feel it!  [thumbsup]
- hand guards, bash plate and crash bars all protected the bike as my gear did with me, again worth it. [thumbsup]
- get a trailer and tow the bike, makes the whole event much more relaxing.
- SKIP THE HERO SECTIONS! I finished one on Saturday morning that was supposed to be an easy 'B' and it ended up being a hard 'A'. Not all of it, just a relatively short bit, however it was a pretty hellish bit!  :o :o :o
- I SUCK! And so does the GS, but not as much as me. The hero section really showed me how much I lack in skill/training and physical condition. [bang]

Aside from getting my @$$ handed to me by the hero section I had a great time. I was positively surprised by the spirit of camaraderie between riders, complete strangers helping each other pick up the bikes, pushing them up hill, checking to make sure stopped riders were OK  [thumbsup] [clap]

So here I am: beat, yet happy! [laugh]

(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012_shenny500/IMG-20121006-00037.jpg)

(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012_shenny500/IMG-20121006-00038.jpg)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Autohag on October 10, 2012, 06:09:35 PM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on October 10, 2012, 04:00:11 PM
(http://codeherrings.com/images/moto/rides/2012_shenny500/IMG-20121006-00028.jpg)

Meh. Looks like your ol' M750 most of the time.  ;D

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on October 11, 2012, 04:19:10 AM
did you hook up with K.Kyler or any of the other D.A.M.N. people?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 11, 2012, 07:41:12 AM
Quote from: zooom on October 11, 2012, 04:19:10 AM
did you hook up with K.Kyler or any of the other D.A.M.N. people?
I remember seeing them, but didn't get a chance to chat. Next year I'd like to get a trailer so I can camp on site and be more social.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on October 11, 2012, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on October 10, 2012, 04:00:11 PM

- I SUCK! And so does the GS, but not as much as me. The hero section really showed me how much I lack in skill/training and physical condition. [bang]


What about the GS sucked? Details... work has been boring, I want stories.

Since my riding might be even more limited next year than this I'm leaning towards tossing this up on the calendar *well* in advance
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: ducati culture on October 11, 2012, 11:25:55 AM
thanks for the info.....

I am so hoping to do this next year.   [popcorn]

FOOTAGE?
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 11, 2012, 12:32:54 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on October 11, 2012, 11:20:21 AM
What about the GS sucked? Details... work has been boring, I want stories.
Main things are weight (too much) and suspension travel (not enough).

However there's relatively little I can do to fix this, since I've gotten to the point where it would cost silly money to drop any more pounds off the bike and if I raise it any more I would need stilts (or maybe stiltetto boots :-* [laugh]) to put a foot down.

I am contemplating swapping out the front forks with a pair from a Yamaha and having the shock properly revalved and setup. This should help cope with some of the crazy stuff I put it through. But the fact is that the hero sections were made for lighter bikes, so my money would be better spent on a WR250 (for example) if I'm really going to get into DS riding.

Other than the hero section, the GS did perfectly well. There's some vibrations from the engine once it passes 5K rpm and these are a little annoying when crusing 66 & 81 at 65 - 70 mph, 6th gear where are thou?!? And if I had skipped the hero section, there would be nothing for me to complain about other than the flat and the weather! The scenic fire roads are beautiful, and I would definitely consider a 2-day ride out there just to enjoy them!

The two things I really need are getting my fat @$$ in shape and doing a good off road training course. I found myself in a vicious cycle of falling, exhausting myself, and falling again... The more I fell the more tired I was, which made it harder to keep the bike up. [bang]

Quote from: ducati culture on October 11, 2012, 11:25:55 AM
thanks for the info.....

I am so hoping to do this next year.   [popcorn]

FOOTAGE?
Do, you'll love it! [thumbsup]

Got some video, need to cut & upload to youtube; I'll post when it's done.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on October 11, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
Just looked it up.. 423 pounds running weight (dunno if that includes gas)... fat bastard! The 690 is 305 running, sans gas.

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: David Lowenstein on October 11, 2012, 01:00:09 PM
I'm obviously partial to the CRF-250X, which is an outstanding bike for a wide range of off-road purposes including the S500, but the lack of a 6th gear for highway riding (and the fact that it requires work to make it street-legal) makes it less than ideal.

Among my hard-core DS friends, the bike almost everyone has homed in on is the KTM 350 EXC-F.  Street-legal off the showroom floor, and no significant liabilities (other than price).

Dave
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: zooom on October 11, 2012, 01:33:03 PM
the answer for you is here Mass....

http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/mcy/3315592732.html (http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/mcy/3315592732.html)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 11, 2012, 01:59:40 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on October 11, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
Just looked it up.. 423 pounds running weight (dunno if that includes gas)... fat bastard! The 690 is 305 running, sans gas.
It's a pig of a bike. But then I could stand to loose a few pounds too...  :-[

Lots of steel parts don't make for a light bike, very durable, just not light. Top heavy too, stock lead-acid battery and external oil reservoir sit up in the faux tank. I've put in a Shorai battery and that drops a good 8 - 10 lbs, but I had the stock exhaust back on and spare HD tubes + tools in the tail bag.

This winter I plan to experiment a bit with some carbon fiber. Don't know what will come out of it, probably $h!t but I might be able to build something useful. ;)

Quote from: dlowenst on October 11, 2012, 01:00:09 PM
I'm obviously partial to the CRF-250X, which is an outstanding bike for a wide range of off-road purposes including the S500, but the lack of a 6th gear for highway riding (and the fact that it requires work to make it street-legal) makes it less than ideal.

Among my hard-core DS friends, the bike almost everyone has homed in on is the KTM 350 EXC-F.  Street-legal off the showroom floor, and no significant liabilities (other than price).

Dave
Didn't see you there, how about a father + son thing next year? Plenty of kids there!


Quote from: zooom on October 11, 2012, 01:33:03 PM
the answer for you is here Mass....

http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/mcy/3315592732.html (http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/mcy/3315592732.html)
Two bikes are the limit for now, need to focus on a second car first. Not that I haven't been looking at the classifieds on craigslist or ADVRider, just not yet.  [evil]
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 12, 2012, 05:34:20 AM
Quote from: ducati culture on October 11, 2012, 11:25:55 AM
FOOTAGE?
Here you go!

These are most of my falls in the hero section. I forgot to start recording at one point and missed a couple more. I'll upload more videos this weekend. In the meanwhile have a good laugh at my expence!  [laugh]

My fails at the 2012 Shenandoah 500 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNQfT-941cY#)

Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on October 12, 2012, 05:45:29 AM
ooooh, I heard some naughty words!

If you're serious about a more offroadery bike - KTM makes street legals down to the 3XX displacement range. The current 350 is 109.5 kg (241.4 lb.), ready run w/o fuel.

Or go back a bit
Tagged 2009 KTM 250 XC-W
http://delaware.craigslist.org/mcy/3330363660.html (http://delaware.craigslist.org/mcy/3330363660.html)

2006 KTM 400 EXC - Titled and Registered
http://richmond.craigslist.org/mcy/3326028367.html (http://richmond.craigslist.org/mcy/3326028367.html)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on October 12, 2012, 12:12:51 PM
For next time - would some haul straps be helpful?

http://www.kriega.us/off-road-enduro-motorcycle-haul-loop-rear/ (http://www.kriega.us/off-road-enduro-motorcycle-haul-loop-rear/)
http://www.kriega.us/off-road-enduro-motorcycle-haul-loop-front/ (http://www.kriega.us/off-road-enduro-motorcycle-haul-loop-front/)

Won't stop the falling, but gives extra grabs when picking up.
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 12, 2012, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on October 12, 2012, 05:45:29 AM
ooooh, I heard some naughty words!
Oh yeah, plenty of those!  [laugh] [evil]

Quote from: Slide Panda on October 12, 2012, 05:45:29 AM
If you're serious about a more offroadery bike - KTM makes street legals down to the 3XX displacement range. The current 350 is 109.5 kg (241.4 lb.), ready run w/o fuel.

Or go back a bit
Tagged 2009 KTM 250 XC-W
http://delaware.craigslist.org/mcy/3330363660.html (http://delaware.craigslist.org/mcy/3330363660.html)

2006 KTM 400 EXC - Titled and Registered
http://richmond.craigslist.org/mcy/3326028367.html (http://richmond.craigslist.org/mcy/3326028367.html)
you and zooom will get me in trouble with my wife! I'm tempted by a smaller and lighter DS bike, but I've got other things lined up first.... here's a little clue:

(http://codeherrings.com/images/auto/rover/disco/IMG-20121012-02238.jpg)
Title: Re: Local fire roads and such?
Post by: Slide Panda on October 12, 2012, 07:08:16 PM
What...? Polishing and waxing your neighbors hood after that little photo?
Title: Michaux State Forest
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 15, 2012, 09:16:49 AM
Plan on heading up there this weekend (10/20) with some folks from ADVRider (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632871&page=46). Maybe the next (10/27) if the weather is crap...