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Title: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: MoNsTer82 on February 17, 2012, 03:02:01 PM
Hi would like to order some speed bleeders for my front/rear callipers and my clutch. Can anyone confirm me the sizes please  ??? [beer]
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: MoNsTer82 on February 18, 2012, 04:30:39 AM
Any help please I have the stock callipers on my s2r, would like to install speed bleeders but I don't know the sizes to order???
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: jgrm1 on February 18, 2012, 05:16:39 PM
You might try calling Speed Bleeder directly.  If you learn the sizes, please post as my fluids are due for changing.

-Jeff
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: ducatiz on February 18, 2012, 05:55:04 PM
all ducati and brembo are 10x1
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: MoNsTer82 on February 19, 2012, 04:11:42 AM
Thanks guys as ducatiz say they are all 10mm by 1.0 x 3, 2 for the front calliper 1 for the rear. Then for the clutch you will need a 6mm by 1.0.
*PiN7
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: battlecry on February 19, 2012, 05:04:28 AM
Get a couple of banjo bolts with bleeders while you are at it.  Might come in handy.
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: MoNsTer82 on February 19, 2012, 05:25:20 AM
Cheers battlecry but i got the vacuum pump to make sure there's no bubbles in there. Gonna change lines, pads, rotors and fresh fluid  :)
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: battlecry on February 19, 2012, 05:48:13 AM
 [thumbsup]
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: ducpainter on February 19, 2012, 06:28:10 AM
Quote from: MoNsTer82 on February 19, 2012, 05:25:20 AM
Cheers battlecry but i got the vacuum pump to make sure there's no bubbles in there. Gonna change lines, pads, rotors and fresh fluid  :)
Quote from: battlecry on February 19, 2012, 05:04:28 AM
Get a couple of banjo bolts with bleeders while you are at it.  Might come in handy.
When you change lines it can be difficult to get the tiny bubbles out that stick to the sides of new lines whether you use a vacuum pump or not.

Typically those bubbles will rise to the top and get trapped at the banjo.

A bleeder up top can save a lot of headaches.
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: ducatiz on February 19, 2012, 08:23:18 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 19, 2012, 06:28:10 AM
When you change lines it can be difficult to get the tiny bubbles out that stick to the sides of new lines whether you use a vacuum pump or not.

Typically those bubbles will rise to the top and get trapped at the banjo.

A bleeder up top can save a lot of headaches.

I know I'll get ridiculed for this, but it works.

Pick up a cheap vibrator.  Yes, a sex toy.  Wrap it to the hose and tape it so it's right against it, and turn it on.  Tap the hose in a few different places and make sure there are no loops or downward turns.  Leave it overnight.

Come back the next day and ALL of the trapped air will be at the highest point. 

The vibration transmits over the entire hose just enough to dislodge the air bubbles.
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: battlecry on February 19, 2012, 08:59:34 AM
I'd hate to think what other things you do to your bikes.   [clap]
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: Speeddog on February 19, 2012, 09:02:46 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on February 18, 2012, 05:55:04 PM
all ducati and brembo are 10x1

The banjo bolts are, but not all of the bleeders are.
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: ducatiz on February 19, 2012, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on February 19, 2012, 09:02:46 AM
The banjo bolts are, but not all of the bleeders are.

whoops, i think you're right...   :-X
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: MoNsTer82 on February 19, 2012, 10:32:27 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 19, 2012, 06:28:10 AM
When you change lines it can be difficult to get the tiny bubbles out that stick to the sides of new lines whether you use a vacuum pump or not.

Typically those bubbles will rise to the top and get trapped at the banjo.

A bleeder up top can save a lot of headaches.

Ducpainter  is it better to just buy the 2 top banjo bolts with beeders and forget the calliper ones ???
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: booger on February 19, 2012, 02:33:28 PM
I wonder if anyone has used a pressure bleeder i.e. Motive to deal with the pain of bleeding these. They work a treat for my cars. You would have to sacrifice a reservoir cap or three but it seems like it would be a sure way to get these bastards bled properly.
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: ducpainter on February 19, 2012, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: MoNsTer82 on February 19, 2012, 10:32:27 AM
Ducpainter  is it better to just buy the 2 top banjo bolts with beeders and forget the calliper ones ???
Yes.

The calipers already have bleeders.

Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: Roaduser on February 19, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
i have 999 master with the bleeders in them, its still being a pain tho. would bleeder bolts releave some air that the master bleeds dont easily?

i cant get the brake to firm up as much as i want. by all means the brakes work great, but what kinda of lever action would be acceptable before firm with 999 master, hel braided lines, motul dot4, brembo 4 spot 2 pad calipers, sintered pads and galfer rotors? not sure how many of those would really effect the squish so i listed it all....

its easily double what my brothers rsv4r is doing. his is all std lines/fluid/brembo monoblocks and radial masters
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: thought on February 20, 2012, 11:04:45 AM
Quote from: Roaduser on February 19, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
i have 999 master with the bleeders in them, its still being a pain tho. would bleeder bolts releave some air that the master bleeds dont easily?

i cant get the brake to firm up as much as i want. by all means the brakes work great, but what kinda of lever action would be acceptable before firm with 999 master, hel braided lines, motul dot4, brembo 4 spot 2 pad calipers, sintered pads and galfer rotors? not sure how many of those would really effect the squish so i listed it all....

its easily double what my brothers rsv4r is doing. his is all std lines/fluid/brembo monoblocks and radial masters

The monoblocs make a huge diff in braking power.  They are known to be brick wall like in their stopping power... you cant really compare your setup vs that hardware unless you upgrade your calipers.  If he has the radial masters it might make a diff too.
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: MoNsTer82 on February 20, 2012, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 19, 2012, 02:58:13 PM
Yes.

The calipers already have bleeders.



Cheers for the help, just ordered a single banjo bleeder bolt and a double for the front brakes. Cheaper 2  [drink]
Title: Re: S2r 800 speed bleeders
Post by: Roaduser on February 20, 2012, 08:55:41 PM
Quote from: thought on February 20, 2012, 11:04:45 AM
The monoblocs make a huge diff in braking power.  They are known to be brick wall like in their stopping power... you cant really compare your setup vs that hardware unless you upgrade your calipers.  If he has the radial masters it might make a diff too.

i have radial masters too, 999, and i didn't think the monoblocks would effect the lever squish, just the accurateness and power from having less flex than my 2piece axial calipers. once properly bled, i thought the only squish is going to come from the masters, fluid/lines, and maybe pads.

my front brakes feel near as powerfull as his and i actually prefer the feel i get with mine over his. its just a matter of his have (memory guessing here) ~15mm of lever take up, and mine more like ~25mm at the end of the lever. what do other ppl have?