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Title: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: jaxduc on June 15, 2012, 05:38:22 AM
(http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/jessethibodaux/fracture.jpg)

I wonder how likely or how possible it is for these new panigale frames to develop a small crack in them?
Looks more like a dirt bike frame anyway.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: ducatiz on June 15, 2012, 05:42:09 AM
That bike's components are crammed so tightly, you'd never know.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: jaxduc on June 15, 2012, 05:43:27 AM
They say there is no frame. There IS a frame. I'm staring right at it.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: ungeheuer on June 15, 2012, 05:46:24 AM
I see no frame.  Just an engine with cycle parts bolted on.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: jaxduc on June 15, 2012, 05:50:44 AM
Monster lovers UNITE!! [evil]


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: ducatiz on June 15, 2012, 05:52:45 AM
.....and?

...and some wheels?


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: jaxduc on June 15, 2012, 05:55:07 AM
......AND?


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: ungeheuer on June 15, 2012, 05:58:14 AM
 [popcorn]


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: Monsterlover on June 15, 2012, 03:21:14 PM
Monster lovers UNITE!! [evil]

You rang?

;D


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: Dirty Duc on June 15, 2012, 04:39:46 PM
I don't think the airbox is stressed on that plane.  It looks pretty well triangulated between the heads and the steering mount.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: hbliam on June 15, 2012, 09:45:17 PM
That's not the frame, it's the airbox. And the steering mount is part of the airbox so I would gather it is going to be subjected to stress.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: He Man on June 16, 2012, 07:27:44 AM
there is a lot of stress carried at all mounting points, thats why its much beefier.

i cant imagine crashing that thing. id see it being blown to pieces.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: Monsterlover on June 16, 2012, 07:41:47 AM
I haven't seen too many pics of crashed pan's, but none of the ones I have seen were good.

No "buffing that right out"


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: Billyzoom on June 16, 2012, 08:08:01 AM
there is a lot of stress carried at all mounting points, thats why its much beefier.

i cant imagine crashing that thing. id see it being blown to pieces.

Did you really include the phrase "I can't imagine crashing..." in a post?  Who are you and what have you done with He Man?  I demand a full investigation.     


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: Monsterlover on June 16, 2012, 08:13:56 AM
[laugh]


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: He Man on June 16, 2012, 09:16:11 AM
let me rephrase that.


my wallet cant imagine crashing that thing!!!!


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: BozcoRob on June 16, 2012, 09:53:09 AM
(http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/jessethibodaux/fracture.jpg)

I wonder how likely or how possible it is for these new panigale frames to develop a small crack in them?
Looks more like a dirt bike frame anyway.


From the picture, it appears that one is already cracked [roll]


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: Monsterlover on June 16, 2012, 10:42:14 AM
Boy, that really is 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag, isn't it?


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: BozcoRob on June 16, 2012, 10:58:20 AM
Boy, that really is 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag, isn't it?

Some things look better with their "clothes" on


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: jaxduc on June 16, 2012, 03:34:25 PM
From the picture, it appears that one is already cracked [roll]
Now that you mention it.. I DO see a crack!


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: rsoffar on June 16, 2012, 06:36:15 PM
for those who say they havent seen a crashed pani....

http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114322 (http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114322)


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: Raux on June 17, 2012, 01:20:18 AM
the more I look at this bike with fairings off, the more I can't believe they got a patent for that frame, just by calling it frameless.

that frame has the almost the same basic layout as the 696 just with different attachment points. well monoque instead of space in the front.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: jaxduc on June 17, 2012, 08:12:58 AM
for those who say they havent seen a crashed pani....
http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114322 (http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114322)
That's awesome. I can't believe that rear swing-arm just snapped off like that.
By the way. I love talking smack about the Ps.... such an appropriated thing to do on a monster forum.
 [beer]


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: Monsterlover on June 17, 2012, 01:57:46 PM
To be fair, that bike came apart after something like a 170mph get off.

Not too many machines would fair well in that situation. 

Carry on ;D


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on June 17, 2012, 03:09:31 PM
let me rephrase that.


my wallet cant imagine crashing that thing!!!!

I dont think it would be all that different from wrecking any other sportbike.

the ecu's and shock are more exposed then most I suppose, but those the twin subframe "frame" means that the chances of totaling it for a cosmetic ding arent as great...which sucks for those of us that lie in wait for perfectly useable "totalled" bikes for the track.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: He Man on June 17, 2012, 03:18:20 PM
I was more on the standpoint of crash survivabity. the older bikes you could probably toss down the track several times before the frame was damaged.

this thing on the other hand, looks like if you chucked it hard enough that front airbox member would snap and the mounting point would be under so much pressure that the shock ripped part of the engine off.


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: thought on June 17, 2012, 03:29:37 PM
I wonder how much it is to replace the subframes.  If you bend the frame on a standard bike then it's kind of toast... but if the mounting points survive on the Pani... just replacing the subframes should pretty much make it 100% again right?

So while it might not hold up as well, it might allow resurrection of the bike easier?


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: jaxduc on June 17, 2012, 08:01:19 PM
if you chucked it hard enough that front airbox member would snap and the mounting point would be under so much pressure that the shock ripped part of the engine off.
This is what I've been trying to say


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: ducatiz on June 18, 2012, 04:11:01 AM
I was more on the standpoint of crash survivabity. the older bikes you could probably toss down the track several times before the frame was damaged.

this thing on the other hand, looks like if you chucked it hard enough that front airbox member would snap and the mounting point would be under so much pressure that the shock ripped part of the engine off.

that would probably destroy any other bike as well.



Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: jaxduc on June 18, 2012, 06:41:40 AM
that would probably destroy any other bike as well.
Not uh! Our monsters are WAY better and INVENCIBLE!!
 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: lawbreaker on June 22, 2012, 04:18:29 PM
Not uh! Our monsters are WAY better and INVENCIBLE!!
 [thumbsup]

... only the 620 is invincible !


and the fastest


... provided it's Yellow


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: teddy037.3 on June 26, 2012, 07:52:01 AM
... only the 620 is invincible !


and the fastest


... provided it's Yellow

lies! only the capirex can win this argument!


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: ducatiz on June 26, 2012, 08:02:31 AM
lies! only the capirex can win this argument!


I am the Lorix, I speak for the TIRES!
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Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: teddy037.3 on June 26, 2012, 08:06:15 AM
 [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: crack in panigale frame question
Post by: lawbreaker on June 26, 2012, 04:05:01 PM

I am the Lorix, I speak for the TIRES!
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