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Title: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: techno on August 23, 2012, 04:12:24 PM
As reported in Australian media

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-24/stoner-to-undergo-surgery/4219946 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-24/stoner-to-undergo-surgery/4219946)



Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: DanTheMan on August 23, 2012, 09:53:19 PM
boo, sounds like he's calling it quits. Found a way out and took it. Think if he actually wanted to win the season, he'd keep pushing.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: Raux on August 23, 2012, 10:37:27 PM
did you see the pics of his ankle?


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: DanTheMan on August 23, 2012, 10:40:34 PM
did you see the pics of his ankle?

rossi broke two legs and he was back sooner than that.

and said his ankle was fractured, not even broken.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: thorn14 on August 23, 2012, 10:51:13 PM
I was under the impression from multiple other articles there were a few fractures, but that main worries were multiple torn tendons, not broken bones.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: Triple J on August 24, 2012, 07:07:46 AM
boo, sounds like he's calling it quits. Found a way out and took it. Think if he actually wanted to win the season, he'd keep pushing.

That's ridiculous. The fact that he rode at Indy was friggin' amazing. He broke a few bones, and damaged pretty much all of the soft tissue. If he wanted to quit, he'd be done for the season.

If you want to talk about quitting have a look at golden boy Rossi...he's already packed it in this season. And when did he break 2 legs?


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: El-Twin on August 24, 2012, 07:45:09 AM
and said his ankle was fractured, not even broken.

And the difference between fractured and broken would be..... ?  ???


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: DanTheMan on August 24, 2012, 07:50:24 AM
if he rode at indy he should keep riding.

for me this blows open the whole season, who else is going to challenge lorenzo at this point.

And the difference between fractured and broken would be..... ?  ???

apparently nothing according to google, but one sounds more serious.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: Triple J on August 24, 2012, 07:57:44 AM
for me this blows open the whole season, who else is going to challenge lorenzo at this point.

Agreed. A somewhat boring season just got even more boring. Pedrosa could still challenge him though...we'll see.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: Raux on August 24, 2012, 08:38:54 AM
if he rode at indy he should keep riding.
 
look at it this way. he's already says family is more important than this circus. you think that crippling himself for the sake of the circus is something he's going to do now?
he'll heal, come back the last 1 or 2 races, win, and go out saying, the only reason Lorenzo won the championship was because I was out, just the same as when Rossi broke his leg.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: gm2 on August 24, 2012, 08:57:37 AM
if he rode at indy he should keep riding.
you're not serious, right?  he should risk maybe being crippled?

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/183077/1/casey_stoner_motogp_title_hopes_finished.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/183077/1/casey_stoner_motogp_title_hopes_finished.html)

"We were hoping that once they had seen the scans that it wouldn't be as bad as I first suspected and that we could race here, but in fact it was the opposite and a lot worse than first expected."

not that it hasn't been done several times, but if you need crutches to get on your bike, racing at all - let alone at this level - not such a hot idea.

who else is going to challenge lorenzo?  probably the guy who's been very consistent this year and is only 18 points back.  the guy ahead of stoner in the points.

and rossi broke 1 leg, in 2 places.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: duccarlos on August 24, 2012, 09:09:53 AM
He'll be back for his farewell party in Australia and Valencia and I'll be cheering for him. Rossi rushed back because he could see the writing on the wall. Stoner has nothing to prove.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: derby on August 24, 2012, 09:43:38 AM
Stoner has nothing to prove.

more accurately, he's in no condition to prove anything...


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: duccarlos on August 24, 2012, 09:46:27 AM
His biggest chip on his shoulder were Rossi and JB's comments. In theory he could have just sat in a corner and grinned through it all. Now he has 2 championships with 2 manufacturers, including the only person to be consistent on the Duc. I would say that he's not fit and does not need to prove anything.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: koko64 on August 24, 2012, 12:11:54 PM
True.

Some breaks can be plated and screwed back together and you're riding in a few days, but not that injury. Stoner wanted to go out on top, he ain't quitting until after the season.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: ZLTFUL on August 24, 2012, 05:10:26 PM
Having severely sprained my ankle, torn ligaments and had several stress fractures, I can tell you that even braced like crazy and with about 3 vicodein running through his system, he still felt every second of that race.

I am no Crybaby Moaner fan by any stretch of the imagination but the dude had stones about the size of 16lb bowling balls to go out there and ride like he did last weekend.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: DanTheMan on August 25, 2012, 09:57:12 PM
you're not serious, right?  he should risk maybe being crippled?



sure .... didn't somebody cut off the tip of their finger to race the next day? Bayliss? He's retiring who cares if he's cripple or walks with a limp. Bayliss only counts to 9.5 now and still goes out as ducati's most decorated hero. I guess stoner is also ducati's most decorated GP hero.

And since when did the DMF start defending stoner?


All joking aside.... bones heal, soft tissue not so much. Bones he could have been back out, soft tissue all you can do is get off of it.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: kopfjäger on August 25, 2012, 10:02:33 PM
sure .... didn't somebody cut off the tip of their finger to race the next day? Bayliss? He's retiring who cares if he's cripple or walks with a limp. Bayliss only counts to 9.5 now and still goes out as ducati's most decorated hero. I guess stoner is also ducati's most decorated GP hero.

And since when did the DMF start defending stoner?


All joking aside.... bones heal, soft tissue not so much. Bones he could have been back out, soft tissue all you can do is get off of it.

Put the pipe down and step away from your computer.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: DanTheMan on August 25, 2012, 10:04:31 PM
Put the pipe down and step away from your computer.

it wasn't bayliss?


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: derby on August 26, 2012, 04:47:24 AM
it wasn't bayliss?

he lost his finger due to a crash in race 1 but, iirc, they wouldn't let him participate in race 2. (donington park 2007)


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: ducpainter on August 26, 2012, 06:22:53 AM
Jack Burnicle just reported a rumor that  Johnathan Rae will go to Brno tomorrow to test Stoner's Honda. There are no more date conflicts between SBK and GP this year.

That might prove interesting if it actually happens. [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: DRKWNG on August 26, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
Jack Burnicle just reported a rumor that  Johnathan Rae will go to Brno tomorrow to test Stoner's Honda. There are no more date conflicts between SBK and GP this year.

That might prove interesting if it actually happens. [thumbsup]

Hell yeah it might.  I could almost see him taking out J-Lo, similar to what Bautista did, only further into the race.  That would be hilarious!!


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: ducpainter on August 26, 2012, 06:51:46 AM
Hell yeah it might.  I could almost see him taking out J-Lo, similar to what Bautista did, only further into the race.  That would be hilarious!!

There's a lot less 'manners' involved in SBK.  ;D


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: DRKWNG on August 26, 2012, 08:34:24 AM
There's a lot less 'manners' involved in SBK.  ;D

And that's what keeps life interesting.   :D


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: gm2 on August 27, 2012, 04:42:09 AM
he lost his finger due to a crash in race 1 but, iirc, they wouldn't let him participate in race 2. (donington park 2007)

yup.  he said just cut it off.. they said no.

he also nearly lost a nut that day.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: BastrdHK on August 27, 2012, 11:14:36 AM
Stoner to BMW for third Championship/Manufacturer in 2014.....to drive another nail in the Rossi debate


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: duccarlos on August 27, 2012, 12:49:21 PM
Stoner to BMW for third Championship/Manufacturer in 2014.....to drive another nail in the Rossi debate

Now that would be funny.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: tufty on August 27, 2012, 02:13:11 PM
Major kudos to Cal qualifying 2nd THEN converting to a podium, great job Mr. Crutchlow!  [clap]

I reckon he's played the right move staying at Tech 3 one more year, let Audi sort out the Duke then move in and take Nicky's seat in 2014.  [evil]


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: ducpainter on August 27, 2012, 02:45:31 PM
Major kudos to Cal qualifying 2nd THEN converting to a podium, great job Mr. Crutchlow!  [clap]

I reckon he's played the right move staying at Tech 3 one more year, let Audi sort out the Duke then move in and take Nicky's seat in 2014.  [evil]

I think Nicky made a mistake with his one year deal if that was actually up to him.

It might leave him with only SBK or a CRT bike to choose from in 2014 .

A ride on the Duc is still a factory ride.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: Speeddog on August 27, 2012, 03:18:26 PM
I think Nicky will pull the plug on Ducati if things don't improve next year.
He gambled on Rossi's presence pushing improvement.
I think gambling one last time, banking on Audi's contribution.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: ducpainter on August 27, 2012, 03:25:09 PM
I think Nicky will pull the plug on Ducati if things don't improve next year.
He gambled on Rossi's presence pushing improvement.
I think gambling one last time, banking on Audi's contribution.
Fair enough...

what's next for him?


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: Speeddog on August 27, 2012, 03:38:14 PM
Fair enough...

what's next for him?

Nicky *really* wants a 'Grand Slam', I think he'll come back to USA flat-track to get a Mile win.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: kopfjäger on August 27, 2012, 03:40:32 PM
I think Nicky will pull the plug on Ducati if things don't improve next year.
He gambled on Rossi's presence pushing improvement.
I think gambling one last time, banking on Audi's contribution.

Yep, but the 'Golden Boy' did dick to help him. If BMW steps up, maybe he'll go there.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: derby on August 27, 2012, 04:02:09 PM
Nicky *really* wants a 'Grand Slam', I think he'll come back to USA flat-track to get a Mile win.

 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: ducpainter on September 06, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2012/Rea+needs+to+push+the+tyres+harder+to+drop+lap+times (http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2012/Rea+needs+to+push+the+tyres+harder+to+drop+lap+times)

My job is in Superbike...this is a big present from Honda to be here.

For me to compare myself to these guys would be stupid because they've got so much time on the bike.

I like Johnny.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: gm2 on September 06, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
I like Johnny.

[thumbsup]


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: ducpainter on September 06, 2012, 11:02:54 AM
If he can really put his trust in the tires, not get intimidated by the pomp and circumstance, and push like he does on that antique Fireblade I predict he'll do well for a gp rookie.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: gm2 on September 11, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Sep/120911c.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Sep/120911c.htm)

"Stoner will be Stoner—trying to leave the World Championship in a screw-you blaze of spite and victories."

[laugh] 

Dean...


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: Triple J on September 11, 2012, 12:06:47 PM
Gotta admit...with Stoner out, I hope Pedrosa wins it this year. Like him or not, he's tough, fast, and has had an unlucky string of injuries the last couple years. He deserves it. I was happy to see him not fold under pressure in the last race.

Plus, I'm sick of looking at JLo.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: DRKWNG on September 11, 2012, 12:28:06 PM
Wait, did someone just say that Pedrosa was tough?


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: Triple J on September 11, 2012, 12:29:56 PM
Wait, did someone just say that Pedrosa was tough?

He's ridden with a lot of injuries. He is tough.

That doesn't mean he isn't a little fragile though, but he can't help that.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: gm2 on September 11, 2012, 12:40:06 PM
Wait, did someone just say that Pedrosa was tough?

hell yes he is.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: duccarlos on September 11, 2012, 12:46:46 PM
hell yes he is.

+1. The little make the beast with two backser has taken a beating every year since probably 2007? (derby?). He's still racing even though, like Trip J mentioned, a bit fragile.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: DRKWNG on September 11, 2012, 12:50:02 PM
I know, I know. I was actually setting the stage in hopes that Spidey would show up and run with it.


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: The Architect on September 11, 2012, 02:07:05 PM
Good luck Stoner!  I hope you win Philip Island by two minutes.

Like him or hate him, Stoner is good at what ever he puts his mind to; motogp, finding a hot wife or whining.  He's going to do it right. 



Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: kopfjäger on October 03, 2012, 12:16:35 PM
He will race in Japan.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: duccarlos on October 03, 2012, 12:19:55 PM
He will race in Japan.  [thumbsup]

 [thumbsup] [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Stoner out for the next five races
Post by: OT on October 03, 2012, 01:55:18 PM
He ought to win...he's had two months off


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