Ducati Monster Forum

Be careful out there, the streets are rife with idiots.  (All three lanes NJ side towards tunnel shut down for an hour and a half while they tried to figure out how to tow my bike away...)

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She was good to me.  I'm fine, just a bit sore.  And miss my baby.

HOLY CRAP.. glad you are ok.

What a douche bag...that truck driver should have his license taken away.

Damn!  Glad you are OK!

You really should go buy a lottery ticket bro

HOLY MOLY!  glad you're ok and that you didn't have a passenger.  wow

Yes!  It didn't occur to me till much later, but I wanted my wife to come with me into the city last night but she didn't want to.  I am so thankful that she didn't.  Things would be so much worse :-(

 [puke] man, that makes me sick thinking about it.  talk about the flip of a coin..

Wow. That is sickening when you look at the pic. Glad you are ok.

Glad your alright.  Also, your bar ends and frame sliders are probably still good.  Did you get sandwhiched by someone up front? or just the guy from behind.

Was pushed into the guy in front too.  Seems like the only damage there was a cracked front fender for me, and some soft Pirelli love marks for him.  Fender should be replaceable... stock carbon though *sigh*

that bike is might actually get totaled with the subframe cracking.

Best of luck and glad to hear ur okay!

Can't imagine there would have been some serious torquing on the frame.

Being ok is good though.

Yeah, when I saw the subframe split I accepted in that moment that the bike was totaled and a goner.  But you never know... if I'm not missing anything major I think everything can be replaced in the range of $10k... no idea what the blue book on the 2010 1100S ABS is... anyone know?  If they give me enough I wanna go with the RAM full carbon subframe & full mag swing arm... maybe some BST Carbon wheels since my rear is absolutely dead (something smashed a hole through the tire and rim).  New exhaust too... willing to take suggestions on what to get as replacement.  But the engine is all good, no leaks or anything... so maybe maybe maybe... I'll update you guys as I hear from the insurance

The issue could be the amount of tq put on the main frame and motor mount during the splitting of the rear frame.
As well as the wheel pushing the swingarm into the motor bearings
that looks like a pretty serious impact

If you want to keep and fix the bike, get to a shop.  Before calling the adjuster inspect (chime in and add to the list, folks):
Rear engine case for cracks at the rear mounting point.
Any kinks or cracking paint on the frame.
There should be a page in the shop manual with points to measure the frame.
Make sure the engine runs and you can shift through the gears.  You will need to remove the chain.
Price out what you know you need.
Add a notable budget for the unseen.

Also keep in mind not having clear title will greatly reduce the value of your bike.  When the adjuster goes to the shop, be there.  Tell him you want to keep the bike.  If he writes the estimate on the low side you can avoid salvage title.  I did that with my bike, but my damage was cosmetic.  With your damage I doubt an adjuster would cooperate, but try anyway.  I love seeing bikes saved, but you need to go into this eyes wide open.

I had a 25mph laydown on my 696, would have been totaled by progressive pays dollar for dollar for anything aftermarket up to $3000, In my case, I traded the untotaled bike in for my 796, but there was enough damage to total it had it been stock..

Glad to hear that you're okay. Best of luck with the bike.

Thank you for this!  I haven't looked at the bike since the incident.  I seem to remember shutting the engine off after the impact, but I don't remember well enough and I haven't tested it since.  Will look through all of this.

As I've never been in an accident of any kind before I was wondering what other experience is.  Tell me what I'm not understanding of these scenarios:

1. Not totaled, insurance pays for all repairs: A shop bids on it, insurance agrees and pays, and I get my bike back in some shape or form.  Value is lower regardless because of the incident right?
2. Totaled: Estimate of repairs comes in higher than the value of the bike.  Insurance gives me a check for their assessed value of the bike (?) and the title is nullified or turned into a salvage title?  [I dont really understand the process of totaling...]

What should I do in either case?  I really just want my bike back... I know the value will go down but hell I love it and I just want to run it into the ground... MYSELF!!  [bang]

I am not sure what "total loss" is these days, but it used to be 78% of value.  Parts usually do not get repaired on a motorcycle, but replaced by new.  On the previous generation Monster tank, exhaust and a few control parts plus labor can have you at that point. Usually you can buy the bike back for about 25% of value.  The bike will now have "salvage title" and cannot be registered until the bike is "reconstructed", quite a PITA.

The insurance company might try and steer you to a shop but you have the right to choose the shop you prefer (including yourself).  Value is definitely much lower if the bike had salvage title.  Clear title, not so much. 

You might want to Commonwealth Motorcycles and price out the parts you know you will need, sub frame, wheel, lights etc. to get an idea. 

The final decision is up to you.  Financially advisable?  From the photo, IMO, probably not but you get to save a motorcycle and maybe build something special.  If you want, PM me and I will give you my phone number and we can talk.  I could probably find time to look at the bike with you.

Wheel ~$1300
Swingarm ~$1700
Rear frame ~$1050 each side, so $2100
Exhaust header/connector pipes, 3 pcs ~$1200 total
Termi carbon cans ~$1000 (?) slip-on kit has ECU too, and is ~$1500

So, I've got ~$7300 added up pretty quickly, just in parts.
I've assumed that the entire exhaust system is fubared from the hit.
That may be a stretch.
But I've not added in anything for the seat, tail, lights, etc.

Quick Google has optimistic street value at $10k.

Here in SoCal, 'total' threshold is ~75%.

IMO, it's a goner.

My apologies if that was a bit clinical, I see it more than I'd like.  :-X

Sorry to hear you and your bike got whacked, glad that you're pretty much OK.

I'm with speeddog. the bike is a goner, however be it as it may, all is not loss. I think you can get a good payout for it. Now would be a great oppritunity to take that payout, buy it back and then pick up a m1100 evo and swap parts over to it. and if you want to unload some parts..... :P im looking!

Get all the aftermarket parts that are saveable off before insurance gets there. And have the recipts for the ones destroyed

+1 for it most likely being totaled  :(  Bikes are easily replaced, bodies not so much...thats the important part.


Also, if you have time, do your own assessment for comparison.  Ducatiomaha has all the parts catalogs and prices online.  When mine went down it tweaked the little tabs that hold the tank onto the trellis...Ducati states that ANY frame damage warrents replacement of the frame...so check the gaps between the tank and keyguard...as well as steering lock to lock...if anything is off...clear sign of tank misalignment: frame damage..