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Title: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: duccarlos on October 12, 2012, 10:21:07 AM
Casey is back. The bike had a slow start, went dead within a few corners of leaving the pits.

FP1:

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   290.3   1'46.558   
2   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   297.8   1'46.699   0.141 / 0.141
3   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   292.2   1'46.919   0.361 / 0.220
4   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   291.6   1'47.316   0.758 / 0.397
5   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   293.4   1'47.328   0.770 / 0.012
6   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   290.6   1'47.366   0.808 / 0.038
7   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   300.2   1'47.551   0.993 / 0.185
8   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   294.2   1'47.561   1.003 / 0.010
9   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   295.8   1'47.637   1.079 / 0.076
10   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   296.9   1'47.786   1.228 / 0.149
11   21   Katsuyuki NAKASUGA   JPN   Yamaha YSP Racing Team   Yamaha   288.1   1'48.390   1.832 / 0.604
12   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   293.2   1'49.106   2.548 / 0.716
13   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   284.4   1'49.160   2.602 / 0.054
14   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   287.6   1'49.265   2.707 / 0.105
15   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   282.9   1'49.354   2.796 / 0.089
16   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   283.5   1'50.184   3.626 / 0.830
17   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   272.7   1'50.268   3.710 / 0.084
18   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   289.7   1'50.771   4.213 / 0.503
19   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   276.6   1'51.039   4.481 / 0.268
20   84   Roberto ROLFO   ITA   Speed Master   ART   283.9   1'51.225   4.667 / 0.186
21   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   277.9   1'52.044   5.486 / 0.819
22   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda-Suter   273.6   1'52.188   5.630 / 0.144


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: duccarlos on October 12, 2012, 10:23:32 AM
Seems that Rossi found some hope. Still more than half a second behind.

FP2:

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   307.8   1'46.088   
2   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   294.1   1'46.190   0.102 / 0.102
3   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   294.0   1'46.282   0.194 / 0.092
4   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   294.2   1'46.428   0.340 / 0.146
5   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   298.0   1'46.687   0.599 / 0.259
6   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   291.0   1'46.912   0.824 / 0.225
7   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   295.0   1'46.978   0.890 / 0.066
8   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   297.7   1'46.983   0.895 / 0.005
9   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   293.5   1'46.984   0.896 / 0.001
10   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   289.6   1'47.592   1.504 / 0.608
11   21   Katsuyuki NAKASUGA   JPN   Yamaha YSP Racing Team   Yamaha   291.3   1'47.801   1.713 / 0.209
12   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   283.7   1'48.232   2.144 / 0.431
13   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   286.1   1'48.470   2.382 / 0.238
14   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   285.3   1'48.757   2.669 / 0.287
15   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   283.2   1'48.770   2.682 / 0.013
16   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   285.5   1'49.539   3.451 / 0.769
17   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   283.5   1'49.652   3.564 / 0.113
18   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   274.9   1'49.770   3.682 / 0.118
19   84   Roberto ROLFO   ITA   Speed Master   ART   287.7   1'50.292   4.204 / 0.522
20   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   289.4   1'50.333   4.245 / 0.041
21   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   281.4   1'50.924   4.836 / 0.591
22   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda-Suter   278.6   1'51.270   5.182 / 0.346


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: desmoquattro on October 12, 2012, 10:53:44 AM
See, that's the problem with the new CRT bikes...I can't just scan to the bottom of the list to see how fast Rossi and the other Ducs went [bang]


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: duccarlos on October 12, 2012, 11:47:49 AM
The YSP team is throwing me into a loop.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: gm2 on October 12, 2012, 11:48:58 AM
gotta suck pushing that duc around with a broken wrist


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: duccarlos on October 14, 2012, 04:55:08 AM
QP:
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   302.4   1'44.969   
2   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   306.9   1'45.215   0.246 / 0.246
3   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   304.7   1'45.257   0.288 / 0.042
4   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   302.5   1'45.336   0.367 / 0.079
5   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   303.7   1'45.481   0.512 / 0.145
6   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   302.9   1'45.612   0.643 / 0.131
7   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   304.0   1'45.745   0.776 / 0.133
8   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   309.1   1'45.848   0.879 / 0.103
9   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   302.6   1'45.976   1.007 / 0.128
10   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   301.8   1'46.461   1.492 / 0.485
11   21   Katsuyuki NAKASUGA   JPN   Yamaha YSP Racing Team   Yamaha   303.0   1'46.780   1.811 / 0.319
12   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   305.2   1'46.881   1.912 / 0.101
13   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   286.5   1'47.383   2.414 / 0.502
14   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   288.7   1'47.581   2.612 / 0.198
15   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   303.2   1'47.791   2.822 / 0.210
16   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   287.2   1'48.125   3.156 / 0.334
17   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   284.7   1'48.513   3.544 / 0.388
18   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   283.6   1'48.653   3.684 / 0.140
19   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda-Suter   283.6   1'48.831   3.862 / 0.178
20   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   286.5   1'49.023   4.054 / 0.192
21   84   Roberto ROLFO   ITA   Speed Master   ART   282.9   1'49.183   4.214 / 0.160
22   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   283.8   1'49.831   4.862 / 0.648


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: duccarlos on October 14, 2012, 04:56:48 AM
Race Results:
Pos.   Points   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time/Gap
1   25   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   162.6   42'31.569
2   20   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   162.3   +4.275
3   16   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   162.1   +6.752
4   13   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   161.5   +16.397
5   11   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   161.3   +20.566
6   10   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   161.0   +24.567
7   9   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   160.9   +26.072
8   8   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   160.3   +36.724
9   7   21   Katsuyuki NAKASUGA   JPN   Yamaha YSP Racing Team   Yamaha   160.3   +36.794
10   6   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   158.2   +1'10.729
11   5   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   157.9   +1'15.658
12   4   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   157.5   +1'22.769
13   3   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   157.3   +1'24.968
14   2   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   157.1   +1'29.388
15   1   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   156.8   +1'34.612
16      84   Roberto ROLFO   ITA   Speed Master   ART   155.8   +1'50.853
Not Classified
35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   162.1   1 Lap
9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda-Suter   156.3   1 Lap
22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   155.2   10 Laps
14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   153.3   10 Laps
11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   152.8   23 Laps
68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   146.5   23 Laps


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: duccarlos on October 14, 2012, 05:01:41 AM
Another boring one. Once Dani took over in the front, Butter Boy decided to play it safe the rest of the way. I see a pattern emerging. Lorenzo pulls into the lead the first few laps then when he realizes that he can cruise into 2nd, he let's Pedrosa have his glory.

I feel sorry for Cal. Apparently he was aware of the gas issue, but got so caught up duking it out with Bautista that he forgot. Whoops.

The rest of behind them the only other "battle" was Nicky just inking out Nakasuga to the line.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:14:13 AM
What's Cal supposed to do...

cruise for 4th?


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: duccarlos on October 14, 2012, 05:40:10 AM
I would rather watch Cal running out of gas after "rubbing" with Bautista than watching Lorenzo cruise it in for 2nd.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:56:04 AM
yup


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: fastwin on October 14, 2012, 09:02:47 AM
Zzzzzz... I have friends in Austin all amped up about the MotoGP race at COA. Don't get me started about DORNA. [laugh] If someone would buy me a migas breakfast at Cisco's I might be inclined to make the drive to Austin. [thumbsup] [popcorn] Otherwise...ehhh. [roll]

Google mid pack race filler: see Ducati. [bang] Damn, sure hope they find a miracle by next season. Tired of the Honda/Yamaha series. Hopefully someday Kwakers and Suzook will join the fray again. Hell... if I win the Lottery I'll field a Briggs & Stratton team sponsored by a beer company! ;D


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: Triple J on October 14, 2012, 05:01:13 PM
Boring race except for the battle between Bautista and Crutchlow.

Someone remind me what the point of the fuel limit is again?  [thumbsdown]


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: ducpainter on October 14, 2012, 05:05:55 PM
Boring race except for the battle between Bautista and Crutchlow.

Someone remind me what the point of the fuel limit is again?  [thumbsdown]
Dorna doesn't need a point...

just rules. ;)


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 05:32:24 PM
Zzzzzz... I have friends in Austin all amped up about the MotoGP race at COA. Don't get me started about DORNA. [laugh] If someone would buy me a migas breakfast at Cisco's I might be inclined to make the drive to Austin. [thumbsup] [popcorn] Otherwise...ehhh. [roll]

If you haven't seen this era of bikes run live, you gotta go. TV does no justice to these machines.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: Jester on October 14, 2012, 05:36:01 PM
Feeling even worse for Dani.  The dude is on a mission and it probably won't matter.  The last few races would have been interesting ( still might be ), had the point gap been sitting at under 10 points.  I'd like to see Jorge and Dani go after it with everything on the line.  As it stands, Jorge can just relent and let him go.

Maybe Stoner will up the pace a bit and help Dani out as his fitness improves.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: ab on October 14, 2012, 05:59:25 PM
Yes really bummer for Cal running out of fuel so close.  Good job Dani boy.  Hope Stoner recovery goes well and he gets a win next.  So last time was Hayden to bang the wall on run off and now Ben.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: fastwin on October 14, 2012, 06:08:52 PM
I'm sure you're right about the seeing the big boy bikes race live. But the expense and traffic hassle (which Austin has on a good day! [roll]) may keep me away. Have some friends that live in Austin (dove hunting buddies) that want to take in the race but I'd still need to shack up at a motel... which adds mo' $$.

I'm a little lack luster about the whole deal but maybe my friends can talk me into it. It would be nice to see some prototype GP bikes race before it goes CRT/2 wheeled NASCAR. [bang]


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: fastwin on October 14, 2012, 08:33:22 PM
OK, just watched the race on my dvr. Is it just me but I swear Lorenzo just said screw it and let Pedrobot by and took the lazy route... 2nd place is good enough for the title run and I'll let "junior" win at his company's home track. Maybe Dani will buy Jorge and his team dinner for throwing the race. [roll]


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 08:48:30 PM
I'm sure you're right about the seeing the big boy bikes race live. But the expense and traffic hassle (which Austin has on a good day! [roll]) may keep me away. Have some friends that live in Austin (dove hunting buddies) that want to take in the race but I'd still need to shack up at a motel... which adds mo' $$.

I'm a little lack luster about the whole deal but maybe my friends can talk me into it. It would be nice to see some prototype GP bikes race before it goes CRT/2 wheeled NASCAR. [bang]

I'll pay for your tickets, you have to see these bikes in person. It'll make you a believer.  ;)


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: OT on October 14, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
Gas restrictions are moronic in a prototype racing series....oh, wait, I forgot, it's to reduce costs.... :P

Didn't he have to pay for his own brake pads earlier in the year?


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 08:58:02 PM
Gas restrictions are moronic in a prototype racing series....oh, wait, I forgot, it's to reduce costs.... :P

Didn't he have to pay for his own brake pads earlier in the year?

Who else ran out of fuel?


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: kopfjäger on October 14, 2012, 09:12:05 PM
http://www.sportrider.com/news/146_12010_motogp_motegi_race_report/ (http://www.sportrider.com/news/146_12010_motogp_motegi_race_report/)


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: ducpainter on October 15, 2012, 02:30:08 AM
Who else ran out of fuel?
It's not the first time this year.

I forget which track it was, but both Tech 3 bikes ran out on the cool down lap.

Yamaha is running 800 electronics on them and it just doesn't work as well.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: gm2 on October 15, 2012, 05:31:15 AM
It's not the first time this year.

I forget which track it was, but both Tech 3 bikes ran out on the cool down lap.

Yamaha is running 800 electronics on them and it just doesn't work as well.

yeah, that..

fwiw, george claims there was no staying with dani  http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/185104/1/lorenzo_it_was_impossible.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/185104/1/lorenzo_it_was_impossible.html)

but all he's gotta do the rest of the year is finish 2nd or 3rd, so..  yawn.

full credit to pedro though.  can't do more than what he's doing.




seriously ben?  wtf.

edit: oh..   http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/185108/1/brakes_blamed_for_ben_spies_motegi_exit.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/185108/1/brakes_blamed_for_ben_spies_motegi_exit.html)
and, WHAT?


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: Triple J on October 15, 2012, 06:49:24 AM
Who else ran out of fuel?

Who cares. No one should run out of fuel.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: MadDuck on October 15, 2012, 08:25:45 AM
Maybe Dani boy should push Jorge real hard in the early stages of a race to where Jorge might crash out. Not that I openly wish crashing on anyone but that would make the points fight very interesting. Nah, I think Jorge knows he has a points lock and wouldn't take the chance. How about a mechanical?


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: ducpainter on October 15, 2012, 09:05:03 AM
Maybe Dani boy should push Jorge real hard in the early stages of a race to where Jorge might crash out. Not that I openly wish crashing on anyone but that would make the points fight very interesting. Nah, I think Jorge knows he has a points lock and wouldn't take the chance. How about a mechanical?
Maybe if they change the numbers on the two Yammi's in the garage.

Ben has had more than his share of mechanicals.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: kopfjäger on October 15, 2012, 04:41:10 PM
Who cares. No one should run out of fuel.

.....but only one guy did, so who's at falt?


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: desmoquattro on October 15, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
.....but only one guy did, so who's at falt?

The guy he was racing against. [evil]


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: kopfjäger on October 15, 2012, 05:19:16 PM
The guy he was racing against. [evil]

 :D


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: zooom on October 16, 2012, 03:15:19 AM
at this point...Jorge can cruise and still get the #1 plate...Dani has to hope that Casey can find his way past the aches and get between him and Jorge while he takes the top step at Sepang and Valencia....because we know Casey is going for broke with all balls to wall for the win at Philip Island!


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: The Architect on October 16, 2012, 03:58:01 PM
Watching moto2, I'm convinced Marquez has a 600 engine bored out to 675 or more.  Something smells fishy.......


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: ZLTFUL on October 16, 2012, 05:42:03 PM
They seriously need to put everyone on Moto3 bikes. That last lap was make the beast with two backsing INSANE!
Cortese had the title wrapped up 400 yards from the finish and then suddenly he finishes in 6th after putting it on the deck.


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: mitt on October 23, 2012, 06:08:18 AM
They seriously need to put everyone on Moto3 bikes. That last lap was make the beast with two backsing INSANE!
Cortese had the title wrapped up 400 yards from the finish and then suddenly he finishes in 6th after putting it on the deck.

I was late watching that race, but OMG was it a fun one.

mitt


Title: Re: 2012 MotoGP Round 15 - Motegi (Spoilers!)
Post by: The Architect on October 24, 2012, 02:29:36 PM
I was late watching that race, but OMG was it a fun one.

mitt

Just watched it last night.  Man those guys go all out!!!

Fun race to watch.


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