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http://www.motomatters.com/news/2012/10/22/phillip_island_to_name_turn_3_after_case.html (http://www.motomatters.com/news/2012/10/22/phillip_island_to_name_turn_3_after_case.html)

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^^ Awesome tribute.

Is T3 the one where there is the now-annual photo of him going through the turn completely sideways on a trajectory that defies physics?  Google says it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw24pY6ScNA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw24pY6ScNA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp3vgjy5gPk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp3vgjy5gPk)

It is. A fast, sweeping left hander that leads into a hairpin right. Stellar scenery too, with the Bass Straight just on the other side of it.

if you don't have a motogp.com sub they're selling a 2 for 1 deal for viewing both PI and Valencia.  15 euro, i think

That just reminds me that the end of the year is coming and my sub will expire yet again.   [thumbsdown]

anybody thinking of betting against Stoner for the win?

In PI? Only if he was paralyzed from the neck down.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Oct/121024a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Oct/121024a.htm)

Heard on radio. Stoner nearly a second fastest in FP1.

Holy f'n crap, Casey.   :o

I hope he laps all the riders!  And we find out after the race that his traction control was accidentally turned off.


and Jorge has to pit in because he can't see through his tears.  I wonder if that's a legitimate reason to call a race?


Set that track on fire Casey!

FP2

Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff Diff Previous
1 1 Casey STONER HONDA 1'29.999     
2 26 Dani PEDROSA HONDA 1'30.884 0.885 0.885
3 99 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA 1'31.005 1.006 0.121
4 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW YAMAHA 1'31.367 1.368 0.362
5 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO YAMAHA 1'31.458 1.459 0.091
6 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA HONDA 1'31.616 1.617 0.158
7 6 Stefan BRADL HONDA 1'31.702 1.703 0.086
8 46 Valentino ROSSI DUCATI 1'32.030 2.031 0.328
9 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI 1'32.654 2.655 0.624
10 14 Randy DE PUNIET ART 1'32.674 2.675 0.020
11 8 Hector BARBERA DUCATI 1'32.706 2.707 0.032
12 17 Karel ABRAHAM DUCATI 1'32.744 2.745 0.038
13 5 Colin EDWARDS SUTER 1'33.835 3.836 1.091
14 51 Michele PIRRO FTR 1'34.002 4.003 0.167
15 41 Aleix ESPARGARO ART 1'34.479 4.480 0.477
16 9 Danilo PETRUCCI IODA-SUTER 1'34.531 4.532 0.052
17 77 James ELLISON ART 1'34.561 4.562 0.030
18 22 Ivan SILVA BQR 1'34.746 4.747 0.185
19 84 Roberto ROLFO ART 1'34.771 4.772 0.025

apparently Stoner broke the course record in practice

I hope he DESTROYS the entire field at PI, as a fitting F'you goodbye to the whole MotoGP circus.
Had it not been for his injury he would have walked away with the championship this year!

While I never was a big Casey fan, I have always recognised his talent, all the more so after watching Vale pedal the Duc around the track for the last 2 years. He deserves to go out on a high note.

GO CASEY!

He will destroy everyone on that track and MotoGP will produce an hour video of just him sliding his bike through all the corners in slomo.

As soon as the race is over he will make a douchebag comment and whine about something.

I'm going miss him.

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one possible fly in the ointment: lapped riders.

2nd possible fly in the ointment....bird strike !!

Ok, he will make a douchebag comment after lapping Rossi about how he's not riding hard enough and whine that a bird pooped on his visor and that's the only reason he could not lap Rossi for a second time.

3rd possible ointment: the damn track is slippery in the final corner:
(http://www.tankslap.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/marco.jpg)

Stoner's on a make the beast with two backsing mission.

FP2 he had 1/8 to 1/4 second advantage in *every* sector.

So is Ducati looking for the next spectacular Aussie that can ride the Duc?  We've had Bayliss and Stoner.....who is next?  They better start looking hard if they haven't been!   [coffee]

Say what you want about Casey.  I did not understand the mysterious illness/walkout either, but that guy is one of the best and I hope motorcycle racing does not lose him altogether. 

I don't mind his jabs at other people.  Its good to hear relatively straight talk from a rider. 

I already miss him.

if you've won 5 straight and they just named a corner after you.. damn well better be on a mission
 

watching FP2 now.  jesus.

Faaaaaaaacccccck.  How can you be faster by a second than everyone else in the world?!??

1.    Casey Stoner    AUS   Repsol Honda (RC213V)    1m   29.665s   
2.    Jorge Lorenzo    ESP   Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1)    1m   30.684s   
3.    Dani Pedrosa    ESP   Repsol Honda (RC213V)    1m   30.981s   
4.    Cal Crutchlow    GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)    1m   31.197s   
5.    Andrea Dovizioso    ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)    1m   31.438s   
6.    Alvaro Bautista    ESP   San Carlo Honda Gresini (RC213V)    1m   31.635s   
7.    Randy De Puniet    FRA   Power Electronics Aspar (ART CRT)    1m   31.651s   
8.    Stefan Bradl    GER   LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V)    1m   31.821s   
9.    Valentino Rossi    ITA   Ducati Team (GP12)    1m   32.058s   
10.    Karel Abraham    CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing (GP12)    1m   32.081s   
11.    Aleix Espargaro    ESP   Power Electronics Aspar (ART CRT)    1m   32.141s   
12.    Nicky Hayden    USA   Ducati Team (GP12)    1m   32.366s   
13.    Hector Barbera    ESP   Pramac Racing (GP12)    1m   33.185s   
14.    Danilo Petrucci    ITA   Came IodaRacing (Suter-BMW CRT)    1m   33.586s   
15.    Roberto Rolfo    ITA   Speed Master (ART CRT)    1m   33.911s   
16.    James Ellison    GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport (ART CRT)    1m   34.108s   
17.    Michele Pirro    ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini (FTR-Honda CRT)    1m   34.183s   
18.    Colin Edwards    USA   NGM Forward Racing (Suter-BMW CRT)    1m   34.303s   
19.    Ivan Silva    ESP   Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki CRT)    1m   34.407s   
20.    Kris McLaren    AUS   Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki CRT)    1m   36.251s   

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Because, you are hands down the beast racer in this era.  ;) Oh and after coming off a major injury.

...oh, and you pretty much own the track you're racing this weekend.

Troy had one win in 44 motogp starts, 33 of which were on Ducati.  WSBK hero, MotoGP dud.

I was referring to his WSBK record as well, not GP.....point is Aussies + Ducati Corse Bikes = Championships!

QP:
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   335.6   1'29.623   
2   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   330.6   1'30.140   0.517 / 0.517
3   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   335.7   1'30.575   0.952 / 0.435
4   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   332.7   1'30.763   1.140 / 0.188
5   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   337.1   1'30.798   1.175 / 0.035
6   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   334.7   1'31.200   1.577 / 0.402
7   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   334.9   1'31.490   1.867 / 0.290
8   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   337.4   1'31.661   2.038 / 0.171
9   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   323.6   1'31.667   2.044 / 0.006
10   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   334.4   1'31.681   2.058 / 0.014
11   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   339.6   1'31.910   2.287 / 0.229
12   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   319.8   1'31.990   2.367 / 0.080
13   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   334.1   1'32.231   2.608 / 0.241
14   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   316.8   1'33.050   3.427 / 0.819
15   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda-Suter   315.4   1'33.069   3.446 / 0.019
16   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   321.7   1'33.450   3.827 / 0.381
17   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   317.4   1'33.489   3.866 / 0.039
18   84   Roberto ROLFO   ITA   Speed Master   ART   314.0   1'33.577   3.954 / 0.088
19   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   313.5   1'34.156   4.533 / 0.579
43   Kris McLAREN   AUS   Avintia Blusens   BQR   311.6   1'36.324   6.701 / 2.168

Homeboy  ;D

I would dare to say -- excluding Rossi, who's bike is faster in the straights but a pig in the turns -- that Dani, Yorghey, and Crutchlow are better racers....lots of fellows can slide the ass-end of a motorcycle around a turn  [evil]

https://twitter.com/BenSpies11/status/261714305303597056

@BenSpies11
Just watched a bit of fp2 gotta say without a doubt @Official_CS27 does stuff even Gp racers watch and scratch there head at! #pureclass

Doesn't make him the best racer....maybe belongs in the circus

What a lot of armchair / keyboard racers seem to forget ( all too easily ) is that these guys are the best in the world. Taking a potshot on the internet doesn't take anything but a moment of time.  We should be awestruck instead.

That CRT qualifying in front of 3 Ducati including Hayden  [bang]

We were debating who is the better racer...

says a lot about both the CRTs and the ducati. RdP was respectably up in the field during the session.

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2012/10/27/2012_phillip_island_motogp_saturday_roun.html (http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2012/10/27/2012_phillip_island_motogp_saturday_roun.html)

Lorenzo has a plan, however. At the press conference, the Factory Yamaha man told the media his plan was to latch onto the back of Stoner from the start and try to match his pace for the first couple of laps. That should be enough to break Pedrosa, and manage a gap all the way home.

Not to wish misfortune on Lorenzo, but I hope he does that, as it would end in tears, and then it'd all be to play for at Valencia.

True. Lorenzo said he would try to use Stoner as a "reference (point)" tto get away from Pedrosa. He showed considerable respect and sportsmanship in his attitude.

At PI, losing half a second per lap is on the average an 80 foot gap.

There's no draft at 80 feet behind, and the gap will be ~150 feet at the end of the straight.

That's getting left for dead.

Oh well

Holy shit Casey  [bow_down]

Pedrosa is cursed to never win a premier class championship.
Poor little bugger.
He tried just a bit too hard going into Honda Corner.

Great to see Crutchlow on the podium, you gotta like the guy.

I was still happy for Lorenzo, he's become a decent fellow with maturity.

Stoner once again showed his freakish skill, 6 straight. It's a "riders track".
On the Aussie telecast, Stoner was given a beer holder by a fan that had a sexy picture of his wife Adrianna. It read, "Casey Stoner, I'd stay home too"! He really liked it and laughed. The TV station didnt show the picture.

Stoner owns PI  [bow_down]

Congrats to JLo

The turd was an idiot for getting out in front of Stoner and thinking he could hold him off.

Good going Crutchlow!

Why would they even show Abraham and Rossi battling? That's just embarrassing

Now can't wait to watch Moto2 when my kid takes his nap

Yeah, taking the only opportunity to even sniff a championship and running with it makes him an idiot.    Why would you not go for broke if you found yourself in front.  The only way Pedro even thinks about championship is winning out and/or hoping Jorge crashes.  Give the guy credit for his year and showing everyone more racecraft and balls than anyone will give him credit for.

Pedro is an extraordinary racer... no doubt about that. He really stepped it up at the end of the year and I have a huge amount of respect for him.

But...

Anybody that thinks they can get ahead of Stoner at PI is an idiot. That's all.

I was pulling for Pedrosa to take the fight to Valencia, but I agree.....his champioship quest is over.  Marquez will soak up all of the Repsol/Honda/Spanish attention and cash.  Pedrosa cannot compete with the tidal wave of momentum Marquez will generate off the track.  Whether he knows it or not, he will be there to help Marquez adjust, once he does Dani is done.

At least Pedro tried !!

Lorientho ...a non deserving champion I'm the best at being average

Casey .....wow

With all the injuries over the years, he's only had half a career...2013's really starting to look as if it's going to be a season with some great racing  [thumbsup]

BTW - apologies to all for being such a crank earlier today.... [coffee]

Huh? He won 6 races, and finished 2nd in 10 others this season. That's awesome by any standard!

I agree he's making it a little boring the last couple rounds, but you can't argue that settling for 2nd isn't smart. The end goal is a world championship.

I'll echo that sentiment. Remember: Nicky won the world championship with 2 wins and a heap of podiums. Consistency wins championships.

Would have been more exciting if Dani hadn't crashed out, but You'reghey won it in style...

and Casey?

Still batshit fast.

gotta say Nicky's year wasn't great either

winners are winners

what are you going to remember about this year  not Lori-entho's championship but Pedro's effort

MotoGp is just like F1 average wins championships ( boring )....give me real Racers ..Stoner , Rossi , Spies, Crutchlow, Edwards

 
ummm....I am not sure you watched the same race I did...because what I saw was Casey get a shit start...Lorentho got the holeshot and Dani took it to him and went after him....Casey then worked his way past Jorge and was looking to set up Dani and Dani was pushing his zone to make his gap on what he was assuredly assessing as Jorge behind him because he, as a racer, was looking to take the fight for the championship to the wire, because that is what racers do...not that I am a dani fan....but I wanted an interesting race and I wasn't expecting or wanting that outcome to hapen to Dani...it wasn't good for the show IMHO.

I reckon this is true. Pedrosa was trying hard to keep Lorenzo and Stoner at bay and made a mistake pushing really hard. He was taking the fight to Lorenzo which was noble. If you know Honda corner you could see he ran too deep trying to out brake them and crashed trying correct his line and maintain the lead.

If Lorenzo pushed that hard and crashed he would be criticized for being stupid.

dani did exactly what he had to do, or tried.  he needed to win that race and, just about by default, make sure george came in third.  that's about the tallest order you could ever come up with when you're faced with holding off casey at PI but at least he tried.  full credit to him, pedro came a LONG way this year.  really anxious to see what happens next year.

yes, george deserves the title.  yes, his results were exceptional.  yes, he did what he had to do and did it very consistently.  yes, he still annoys me.  it's ironic that his manner of celebration just turns me off all the more.  i should be excited for him but.. not so much.

dovi showed a little spark there that we normally don't see from him.  maybe next year will be less of a disaster than once thought.

how bad did nicky want to get valentino..

moto2 was great as always.  ant west?!  congrats marquez, you totally deserve it.  keep in mind your new boss expects to see you on the podium in qatar.. =)
 

He does have that way about him. :-\

PI is a wider/longer track and harder to keep someone behind you, but you may have said the same thing at 2008 Laguna when Rossi's only chance was to keep Stoner behind him.  Stoner was a second a lap faster at that track too.  Its a tall order, but it was Pedro's only chance.

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..only, valentino also did a major number on casey's head in the press before the race.  :)

You have to respect both Whoreghey and the Turd for the ridiculous job they've done all year. We can argue that if Stoner would have been in the mix, this might have looked totally different, but given the circumstances, you can't downplay the total dominance of these 2 guys.

It's still boring to watch how it all played out and unfortunately will be used as an excuse for dumb rule changes.

I hate all of this "who is better" talk.  I wanna give all the GP guys a stock GSXR 1000 with an exhaust, springs for their weight, braided lines and brake pads, sprocket and a damper.  Shod in AMA Dunlops or WSBK Pirellis.  Then let 'em go hog wild.  That'd be AWESOME to watch. 

I betcha there'd be a bunch more Nicky fans around here than we have right now. 

Yup the IROC series of motorcycles.

They'd probably think it was fun as well.  [thumbsup]

...except for Stoner.  [laugh]

He would complain the whole time and win the race by 20 seconds.

these days i bet ben would pay everyone's airfare to make that happen

I would pay real money to watch that.

Aren't there already racing series like this?  ;)

I guess Marquez staying in Moto2 paid off.