2012 MotoGP Round 17 - Phillip Island (Spoilers!)

[lazylightnin717]

Pedro is an extraordinary racer... no doubt about that. He really stepped it up at the end of the year and I have a huge amount of respect for him.

But...

Anybody that thinks they can get ahead of Stoner at PI is an idiot. That's all.

[BastrdHK]

I was pulling for Pedrosa to take the fight to Valencia, but I agree.....his champioship quest is over.  Marquez will soak up all of the Repsol/Honda/Spanish attention and cash.  Pedrosa cannot compete with the tidal wave of momentum Marquez will generate off the track.  Whether he knows it or not, he will be there to help Marquez adjust, once he does Dani is done.

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At least Pedro tried !!

Lorientho ...a non deserving champion I'm the best at being average

Casey .....wow

[OT]

At least Pedro tried !!

With all the injuries over the years, he's only had half a career...2013's really starting to look as if it's going to be a season with some great racing  

BTW - apologies to all for being such a crank earlier today....

[Triple J]

Lorientho ...a non deserving champion I'm the best at being average

Huh? He won 6 races, and finished 2nd in 10 others this season. That's awesome by any standard!

I agree he's making it a little boring the last couple rounds, but you can't argue that settling for 2nd isn't smart. The end goal is a world championship.

[desmoquattro]

Lorientho ...a non deserving champion I'm the best at being average

Huh? He won 6 races, and finished 2nd in 10 others this season. That's awesome by any standard!

I agree he's making it a little boring the last couple rounds, but you can't argue that settling for 2nd isn't smart. The end goal is a world championship.

I'll echo that sentiment. Remember: Nicky won the world championship with 2 wins and a heap of podiums. Consistency wins championships.

[ducpainter]

Would have been more exciting if Dani hadn't crashed out, but You'reghey won it in style...

and Casey?

Still batshit fast.

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gotta say Nicky's year wasn't great either

winners are winners

what are you going to remember about this year  not Lori-entho's championship but Pedro's effort

MotoGp is just like F1 average wins championships ( boring )....give me real Racers ..Stoner , Rossi , Spies, Crutchlow, Edwards

[zooom]

 

Stoner owns PI 

Congrats to JLo

The turd was an idiot for getting out in front of Stoner and thinking he could hold him off.
 

ummm....I am not sure you watched the same race I did...because what I saw was Casey get a shit start...Lorentho got the holeshot and Dani took it to him and went after him....Casey then worked his way past Jorge and was looking to set up Dani and Dani was pushing his zone to make his gap on what he was assuredly assessing as Jorge behind him because he, as a racer, was looking to take the fight for the championship to the wire, because that is what racers do...not that I am a dani fan....but I wanted an interesting race and I wasn't expecting or wanting that outcome to hapen to Dani...it wasn't good for the show IMHO.

[koko64]

ummm....I am not sure you watched the same race I did...because what I saw was Casey get a shit start...Lorentho got the holeshot and Dani took it to him and went after him....Casey then worked his way past Jorge and was looking to set up Dani and Dani was pushing his zone to make his gap on what he was assuredly assessing as Jorge behind him because he, as a racer, was looking to take the fight for the championship to the wire, because that is what racers do...not that I am a dani fan....but I wanted an interesting race and I wasn't expecting or wanting that outcome to hapen to Dani...it wasn't good for the show IMHO.

I reckon this is true. Pedrosa was trying hard to keep Lorenzo and Stoner at bay and made a mistake pushing really hard. He was taking the fight to Lorenzo which was noble. If you know Honda corner you could see he ran too deep trying to out brake them and crashed trying correct his line and maintain the lead.

If Lorenzo pushed that hard and crashed he would be criticized for being stupid.

[gm2]

dani did exactly what he had to do, or tried.  he needed to win that race and, just about by default, make sure george came in third.  that's about the tallest order you could ever come up with when you're faced with holding off casey at PI but at least he tried.  full credit to him, pedro came a LONG way this year.  really anxious to see what happens next year.

yes, george deserves the title.  yes, his results were exceptional.  yes, he did what he had to do and did it very consistently.  yes, he still annoys me.  it's ironic that his manner of celebration just turns me off all the more.  i should be excited for him but.. not so much.

dovi showed a little spark there that we normally don't see from him.  maybe next year will be less of a disaster than once thought.

how bad did nicky want to get valentino..

moto2 was great as always.  ant west?!  congrats marquez, you totally deserve it.  keep in mind your new boss expects to see you on the podium in qatar.. =)
 

[ducpainter]

dani did exactly what he had to do, or tried.  he needed to win that race and, just about by default, make sure george came in third.  that's about the tallest order you could ever come up with when you're faced with holding off casey at PI but at least he tried.  full credit to him, pedro came a LONG way this year.  really anxious to see what happens next year.

yes, george deserves the title.  yes, his results were exceptional.  yes, he did what he had to do and did it very consistently.  yes, he still annoys me.  it's ironic that his manner of celebration just turns me off all the more.  i should be excited for him but.. not so much.

dovi showed a little spark there that we normally don't see from him.  maybe next year will be less of a disaster than once thought.

how bad did nicky want to get valentino..

moto2 was great as always.  ant west?!  congrats marquez, you totally deserve it.  keep in mind your new boss expects to see you on the podium in qatar.. =)
 

He does have that way about him.

[Jester]

Anybody that thinks they can get ahead of Stoner at PI is an idiot. That's all.

PI is a wider/longer track and harder to keep someone behind you, but you may have said the same thing at 2008 Laguna when Rossi's only chance was to keep Stoner behind him.  Stoner was a second a lap faster at that track too.  Its a tall order, but it was Pedro's only chance.

[gm2]

PI is a wider/longer track and harder to keep someone behind you, but you may have said the same thing at 2008 Laguna when Rossi's only chance was to keep Stoner behind him.  Stoner was a second a lap faster at that track too.  Its a tall order, but it was Pedro's only chance.

 

..only, valentino also did a major number on casey's head in the press before the race. 

[duccarlos]

You have to respect both Whoreghey and the Turd for the ridiculous job they've done all year. We can argue that if Stoner would have been in the mix, this might have looked totally different, but given the circumstances, you can't downplay the total dominance of these 2 guys.

It's still boring to watch how it all played out and unfortunately will be used as an excuse for dumb rule changes.