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Title: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: ungeheuer on October 29, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
Anybody out there know if there's a DSS which would bolt up to a Hypermotard?

(Disregarding exhaust interference).




Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Düb Lüv on October 29, 2012, 04:29:24 PM
maybe a swingarm from a 749/999.


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: COP TZR on October 29, 2012, 07:17:49 PM
I've got a steel one you can have if you think you can make it work.  Shipping is at your cost.



Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Raux on October 29, 2012, 10:33:24 PM
i think the HYM has the slimcase ie bearing in the swingarm. so yes, likely only the 999

talk to duckstew if he is using the swingarm from me.


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: ungeheuer on October 30, 2012, 02:36:52 AM
Thanks for the input guys  [thumbsup]

I've got a steel one you can have if you think you can make it work.  Shipping is at your cost.
Thanks for the offer.  At this stage I'm just harbouring evil thoughts..... throwing some ideas around.....  it may come to nothing..... or I may have to sleep in the doghouse  [laugh] [evil].

So a 999 swingarm is the popular thought?  Any further bids?

Cheers  [beer].







Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: koko64 on October 30, 2012, 02:38:39 AM
What are you up to Unge? [evil]


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: ungeheuer on October 30, 2012, 02:56:05 AM
What are you up to Unge? [evil]
I love riding my Monster on the black stuff.   I love riding my DR650 on the dirt roads.  Wouldnt it be nice if if there was a real Ducati "dual sport"?   [evil].

 [popcorn]
 [bang]
 [laugh]
 [popcorn]



Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Raux on October 30, 2012, 02:59:21 AM
yep confirmed, HYM has slim SBK-style case
999 swingarm is best candidate.


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Raux on October 30, 2012, 03:01:20 AM
I love riding my Monster on the black stuff.   I love riding my DR650 on the dirt roads.  Wouldnt it be nice if if there was a real Ducati "dual sport"?   [evil].

 [popcorn]
 [bang]
 [laugh]
 [popcorn]


You mean like this
(http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/131070841_full.jpg)
http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/07/ducati-999-beach-racer/ (http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/07/ducati-999-beach-racer/)



Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: ducpainter on October 30, 2012, 03:04:31 AM
I love riding my Monster on the black stuff.   I love riding my DR650 on the dirt roads.  Wouldnt it be nice if if there was a real Ducati "dual sport"?   [evil].

 [popcorn]
 [bang]
 [laugh]
 [popcorn]


I should tell you what Bruce told me when I bought my 996... :P


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: ungeheuer on October 30, 2012, 03:20:16 AM
yep confirmed, HYM has slim SBK-style case
999 swingarm is best candidate.
Thanks Raux  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

You mean like this
(http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/131070841_full.jpg)
um... not really..... that one's a bit more mono sport  :-\.  

I'd like a Duc that's dirt capable.  The stock Hyper is a fun machine, but its not really anything more than a cool road hooligan.  The Multi is a bloated cafe latte ADV wannabe that nobody would wanna scratch in the muck.

Hyper seems like a good place to start..... although I'd have to find a bent one first.

I should tell you what Bruce told me when I bought my 996... :P
....."you picked a high side to leave me, Lucile" ??




Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: ducpainter on October 30, 2012, 05:13:06 AM
I should tell you what Bruce told me when I bought my 996... :P
<snip>
....."you picked a high side to leave me, Lucile" ??



That pretty much covers it. ;D


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Raux on October 30, 2012, 05:32:21 AM
The HYM with dual sport tires, DSS for strength (you'll want the later model year 999 swingarm) and solid bash pans would be a lot of fun.



Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Duck-Stew on October 30, 2012, 12:21:36 PM
999 swingarm *may* work, but suspension rocker-arm is in the wrong position (I think...).

What I recommend:  Multistrada 620 swingarm.  It's a steel DSS that fits a narrow engine case and since that arm fits a Multi frame, it will fit the Hyper frame as well.

25mm axle, DSS, so you'll need an appropriate wheel.  Hell, the exhaust may still fit up!


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: RBX QB on October 30, 2012, 12:32:51 PM
There have been Monster conversions before. This one comes to mind http://www.bikeexif.com/ducati-terra-mostro (http://www.bikeexif.com/ducati-terra-mostro). More off-road than dual-sport... but not by much.


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Raux on October 30, 2012, 12:37:11 PM
999 swingarm *may* work, but suspension rocker-arm is in the wrong position (I think...).

What I recommend:  Multistrada 620 swingarm.  It's a steel DSS that fits a narrow engine case and since that arm fits a Multi frame, it will fit the Hyper frame as well.

25mm axle, DSS, so you'll need an appropriate wheel.  Hell, the exhaust may still fit up!

hell i forgot about the 620 mts

http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-DUCATI-MULTISTRADA-620-SWINGARM-SWING-ARM-CHAIN-GUARD-/270925830304?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f147018a0&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-DUCATI-MULTISTRADA-620-SWINGARM-SWING-ARM-CHAIN-GUARD-/270925830304?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f147018a0&vxp=mtr)


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Duck-Stew on October 30, 2012, 01:58:23 PM
hell i forgot about the 620 mts

Most people have.  The unusual-ness of the OE swingarm made me take notice when my former roommate had an MTS620.

I lodged that info away and am now using an MTS620 swingarm on my new racing project.


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: ungeheuer on October 30, 2012, 03:25:00 PM
What I recommend:  Multistrada 620 swingarm.  It's a steel DSS that fits a narrow engine case and since that arm fits a Multi frame, it will fit the Hyper frame as well.

25mm axle, DSS, so you'll need an appropriate wheel.  Hell, the exhaust may still fit up!
Excellent.  Thanks Duck Stew  [thumbsup].

Excellent  [evil]

There have been Monster conversions before. This one comes to mind http://www.bikeexif.com/ducati-terra-mostro (http://www.bikeexif.com/ducati-terra-mostro). More off-road than dual-sport... but not by much.
That one is pretty damn cool, but you're right its a bit more dirt dedicated than I have in mind.

hell i forgot about the 620 mts

http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-DUCATI-MULTISTRADA-620-SWINGARM-SWING-ARM-CHAIN-GUARD-/270925830304?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f147018a0&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-DUCATI-MULTISTRADA-620-SWINGARM-SWING-ARM-CHAIN-GUARD-/270925830304?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f147018a0&vxp=mtr)
oh make the beast with two backs  [laugh]






Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Speeddog on October 30, 2012, 04:24:03 PM
Steel MTS620 swingarm is good plan.

If you go with much more suspension travel, it effectively shifts weight rearward.
And that really sucks in the dirt, I've BTDT.
Coming off of a corner, throttle on, the front will fold.

That MTS620 steel swinger is easy to lengthen.


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Dirty Duc on October 30, 2012, 09:06:35 PM
  Hell, the exhaust may still fit up!

620 exhaust doesn't fit around the small case S2R swingarm because it interferes with the top swoopy bar, but I'm thinking the hyper exhaust should certainly clear a DSS swingarm.

I'd be willing to bet you could put any header/mid-pipe combo on any other 2V (obviously large to large and small to small) unless it depends on the SS or new monster frame openings.  although it would look funny to have the s2r shotguns on a DSS bike (I would do this with one of the slip-fit mid-pipes so there would be some wiggle room).  The only caveat is the stubby header pipes have to match the mid-pipe set up.


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Raux on October 30, 2012, 09:33:38 PM
I think the benefit of the old 2v MTS is the header runs along side the motor, not under, giving you more ground clearance


Title: Re: DSS on a Hyper?
Post by: Dirty Duc on October 30, 2012, 09:35:25 PM
I think the benefit of the old 2v MTS is the header runs along side the motor, not under, giving you more ground clearance
yepper

And strada-avventuroso has oil filter protection (I'd hesitate to call it a true bash plate).


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