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Title: Heated Gear
Post by: Timmy Tucker on November 03, 2012, 01:15:14 PM
I know this has been beaten to death, but a quick search didn't yield any super useful info for me. How much heated gear can I run on a '99 M750? Planning on heated glove liners for sure instead of heated grips. Would like to throw a heated vest in the mix and maybe heated pant liners if I can. Only thing else powered on the bike other than factory stuff is a phone charger.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: ducpainter on November 03, 2012, 02:09:04 PM
Knowing how many watts they use would help.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: stopintime on November 03, 2012, 02:42:58 PM
The three items needs ~150 watts combined.

Your 750 has the larger 520w capacity (from '98 on, according to Ian Falloon).

So between what the bike produces and what it uses for itself = more than enough. Enjoy!
(WebBikeWorld featured a good test in real live conditions to see if the math held up)(it does)
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: He Man on November 03, 2012, 02:46:58 PM
dont try to start the bike with them on though. you dont make enough current at start idle to power any of those things. You begin to generate eonugh power around 3500rpms.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: Howie on November 03, 2012, 03:29:16 PM
As long as you keep the RPM up you will be fine.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: Timmy Tucker on November 03, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 03, 2012, 02:09:04 PM
Knowing how many watts they use would help.

Haven't decided on any any specific gear at the moment. I posted such a vague question because I honestly thought the answer would be "Oh hell no".

Quote from: howie on November 03, 2012, 03:29:16 PM
As long as you keep the RPM up you will be fine.

I will really only be using for long interstate trips, so it looks like I'll definitely be fine.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: ducpainter on November 03, 2012, 04:14:00 PM
Quote from: Timmy Tucker on November 03, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
Haven't decided on any any specific gear at the moment. I posted such a vague question because I honestly thought the answer would be "Oh hell no".
The consensus is go for it.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: Speeddog on November 03, 2012, 04:56:19 PM
How cold of weather are you going to be riding in?

I've found non-perf leather jacket/pants/gloves/boots, with some thermals underneath, and just an electric vest to be perfectly fine into the low 40's.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: Timmy Tucker on November 03, 2012, 05:27:55 PM
Most likely down into low 30's maybe a little less. Right now I bundle up like the kid on Christmas Story for anything under 50. Expedition weight merino wool thermals, Knox Cold Killers windproof gear, Revit Dragon jacket, Tourmaster polartec 2.0 winter gloves, alpaca wool socks, windproof balaclava, etc. Even w/ all that shit on, I'm make the beast with two backsing miserable after an hour or so.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: Speeddog on November 03, 2012, 05:41:31 PM
I did the same thing years ago, was wearing every scrap of cold gear I owned on a half-day winter ride in the mountains, 30's to 40's.
Fu*king near froze, and was miserable.

Then I bought a Gerbings vest.

Then I could ride in conditions not quite that cold, and be fine, with the gear I mentioned before.
Oh, I forgot about the fleece neck gaiter, I'll use one when it gets in the 40's.
My hands and feet do get a bit cold.
But it's not the frozen screaming claw hands.
And when I get back indoors, I can warm back up in half an hour, instead of needing 3 or 4 hours.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: sofadriver on November 03, 2012, 09:16:39 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on November 03, 2012, 05:41:31 PM
I did the same thing years ago, was wearing every scrap of cold gear I owned on a half-day winter ride in the mountains, 30's to 40's.
Fu*king near froze, and was miserable.

Then I bought a Gerbings vest.


If you think that's warm you should try a Gerbings full jacket.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: He Man on November 03, 2012, 09:22:44 PM
ive bundled up in primaloft high density stuff. pants and jacket. thick textile jacket. scarf. heated gloves.

about 2 hours in is all i can take before im no longer able to function safe enough to ride.

the big issue is that the heated gloves lose heat faster than they can warm up my hands. most of that is due to the wind though. handguards make a huge difference.

i think i could ditch half the stuff if i went heated vest.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: Jarvicious on November 05, 2012, 06:47:47 AM
Quote from: He Man on November 03, 2012, 09:22:44 PM
ive bundled up in primaloft high density stuff. pants and jacket. thick textile jacket. scarf. heated gloves.

about 2 hours in is all i can take before im no longer able to function safe enough to ride.

the big issue is that the heated gloves lose heat faster than they can warm up my hands. most of that is due to the wind though. handguards make a huge difference.

i think i could ditch half the stuff if i went heated vest.

I have the Gerbings heated leather gloves and I had to turn them down on the highway.  Even about about 3/4 power, they had the back of my hands red when I got off the bike.  I'm sure this is personal, but I would almost spring for heated pants over a heated vest.  I've never had a problem keeping my core warm.  The colder you get, the more blood your body diverts to your core from your extremities to keep it warm.  I couldn't handle the wind on my thighs and crotch.  My legs would be numb and red by the time I was done with even a 40 minute ride on the highway.  He Man is right too, wind protection is key. 
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: He Man on November 05, 2012, 12:04:11 PM
oh yea, at 32 degrees if they are on full blast, they will give you 1st degree burns. Your skin will be pink and sensitve for several days if you leave it on that way.

Do note, that you can FEEL like its warm, but the truth is that your senses are all jacked up when your cold and your hands are warm. Its a false sense. Especially since your fingers are colder than the back of your hand.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: seevtsaab on November 05, 2012, 03:11:28 PM
Longer cold rides:
Wind guards (Bark Busters)
Heated grips
Heated Vest

Shorter Rides - really cold (teens)
Wind guards
heated grips
Heated Gloves

Long rides I can feel the heat draining from my core, grips might keep up with the hands (true for 40's or so).

I haven't done long really cold rides.
I'll commute into the teens and my core can tolerate 25mi (rainsuit and neck gaiter on) and the grips and gloves keep the pain away.
Of course riding the slightly 'faired' R1100RS really helps.

Disclaimer - I don't own a heated vest but I wish I did. Jacket liner would be a challenge to fit under the Vanson.
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: ducatigirl100 on November 05, 2012, 06:56:19 PM
heated gloves  [bow_down]

got it , love it ..  [thumbsup]  run fine whit a m900 1995
Title: Re: Heated Gear
Post by: He Man on November 05, 2012, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: seevtsaab on November 05, 2012, 03:11:28 PM
Disclaimer - I don't own a heated vest but I wish I did. Jacket liner would be a challenge to fit under the Vanson.

rule of thumb: never wear leather in the cold.

its a terrible insulator and its difficult to move in. unless its fur.

textile 3/4 for winter!

i am really thinkign about buying a heated vest this winter, but ive ridden through 4 winters without them so...