Heated Gear

Started by Timmy Tucker, November 03, 2012, 01:15:14 PM

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Timmy Tucker

I know this has been beaten to death, but a quick search didn't yield any super useful info for me. How much heated gear can I run on a '99 M750? Planning on heated glove liners for sure instead of heated grips. Would like to throw a heated vest in the mix and maybe heated pant liners if I can. Only thing else powered on the bike other than factory stuff is a phone charger.
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2007 S4RS

ducpainter

Knowing how many watts they use would help.
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stopintime

The three items needs ~150 watts combined.

Your 750 has the larger 520w capacity (from '98 on, according to Ian Falloon).

So between what the bike produces and what it uses for itself = more than enough. Enjoy!
(WebBikeWorld featured a good test in real live conditions to see if the math held up)(it does)
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He Man

dont try to start the bike with them on though. you dont make enough current at start idle to power any of those things. You begin to generate eonugh power around 3500rpms.

Howie

As long as you keep the RPM up you will be fine.

Timmy Tucker

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Quote from: ducpainter on November 03, 2012, 02:09:04 PM
Knowing how many watts they use would help.

Haven't decided on any any specific gear at the moment. I posted such a vague question because I honestly thought the answer would be "Oh hell no".

Quote from: howie on November 03, 2012, 03:29:16 PM
As long as you keep the RPM up you will be fine.

I will really only be using for long interstate trips, so it looks like I'll definitely be fine.

Thanks guys!
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2007 S4RS

ducpainter

Quote from: Timmy Tucker on November 03, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
Haven't decided on any any specific gear at the moment. I posted such a vague question because I honestly thought the answer would be "Oh hell no".
The consensus is go for it.
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Speeddog

How cold of weather are you going to be riding in?

I've found non-perf leather jacket/pants/gloves/boots, with some thermals underneath, and just an electric vest to be perfectly fine into the low 40's.
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Timmy Tucker

Most likely down into low 30's maybe a little less. Right now I bundle up like the kid on Christmas Story for anything under 50. Expedition weight merino wool thermals, Knox Cold Killers windproof gear, Revit Dragon jacket, Tourmaster polartec 2.0 winter gloves, alpaca wool socks, windproof balaclava, etc. Even w/ all that shit on, I'm make the beast with two backsing miserable after an hour or so.
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2007 S4RS

Speeddog

I did the same thing years ago, was wearing every scrap of cold gear I owned on a half-day winter ride in the mountains, 30's to 40's.
Fu*king near froze, and was miserable.

Then I bought a Gerbings vest.

Then I could ride in conditions not quite that cold, and be fine, with the gear I mentioned before.
Oh, I forgot about the fleece neck gaiter, I'll use one when it gets in the 40's.
My hands and feet do get a bit cold.
But it's not the frozen screaming claw hands.
And when I get back indoors, I can warm back up in half an hour, instead of needing 3 or 4 hours.
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Quote from: Speeddog on November 03, 2012, 05:41:31 PM
I did the same thing years ago, was wearing every scrap of cold gear I owned on a half-day winter ride in the mountains, 30's to 40's.
Fu*king near froze, and was miserable.

Then I bought a Gerbings vest.


If you think that's warm you should try a Gerbings full jacket.
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He Man

ive bundled up in primaloft high density stuff. pants and jacket. thick textile jacket. scarf. heated gloves.

about 2 hours in is all i can take before im no longer able to function safe enough to ride.

the big issue is that the heated gloves lose heat faster than they can warm up my hands. most of that is due to the wind though. handguards make a huge difference.

i think i could ditch half the stuff if i went heated vest.

Jarvicious

Quote from: He Man on November 03, 2012, 09:22:44 PM
ive bundled up in primaloft high density stuff. pants and jacket. thick textile jacket. scarf. heated gloves.

about 2 hours in is all i can take before im no longer able to function safe enough to ride.

the big issue is that the heated gloves lose heat faster than they can warm up my hands. most of that is due to the wind though. handguards make a huge difference.

i think i could ditch half the stuff if i went heated vest.

I have the Gerbings heated leather gloves and I had to turn them down on the highway.  Even about about 3/4 power, they had the back of my hands red when I got off the bike.  I'm sure this is personal, but I would almost spring for heated pants over a heated vest.  I've never had a problem keeping my core warm.  The colder you get, the more blood your body diverts to your core from your extremities to keep it warm.  I couldn't handle the wind on my thighs and crotch.  My legs would be numb and red by the time I was done with even a 40 minute ride on the highway.  He Man is right too, wind protection is key. 
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He Man

oh yea, at 32 degrees if they are on full blast, they will give you 1st degree burns. Your skin will be pink and sensitve for several days if you leave it on that way.

Do note, that you can FEEL like its warm, but the truth is that your senses are all jacked up when your cold and your hands are warm. Its a false sense. Especially since your fingers are colder than the back of your hand.

seevtsaab

Longer cold rides:
Wind guards (Bark Busters)
Heated grips
Heated Vest

Shorter Rides - really cold (teens)
Wind guards
heated grips
Heated Gloves

Long rides I can feel the heat draining from my core, grips might keep up with the hands (true for 40's or so).

I haven't done long really cold rides.
I'll commute into the teens and my core can tolerate 25mi (rainsuit and neck gaiter on) and the grips and gloves keep the pain away.
Of course riding the slightly 'faired' R1100RS really helps.

Disclaimer - I don't own a heated vest but I wish I did. Jacket liner would be a challenge to fit under the Vanson.