Title: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: BlackdogGS on November 16, 2012, 11:13:02 AM Will the Monster be next to get the water cooled Testastretta? I noticed the Hypermotard just came out with this motor. I'm happy with my 1100S but a monster with the Testastretta would be a jump in performance.
Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: Slide Panda on November 16, 2012, 11:37:39 AM i wouldn't be shocked at all.
Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: Raux on November 16, 2012, 11:58:54 AM they were pretty adament about the Monster being aircooled.
that's why the Streetfighter was built instead of putting the 1098 in the Monster chassis Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: Slide Panda on November 16, 2012, 12:01:32 PM But all things change. I don't have any numbers to back it up - but it seems to me that the SF isn't as big a seller as the Monsters.
Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: SDRider on November 16, 2012, 12:05:45 PM But all things change. I don't have any numbers to back it up - but it seems to me that the SF isn't as big a seller as the Monsters. +1 I haven't seen a SF1098 in showrooms in well over a year. I've only seen 1 demo model 848SF (which I've ridden a few times-it's a great bike). Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: Raux on November 16, 2012, 12:21:30 PM the 1098 SF is gone. only the 848 is there
Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: danaid on November 16, 2012, 02:24:59 PM they were pretty adament about the Monster being aircooled. that's why the Streetfighter was built instead of putting the 1098 in the Monster chassis But all things change. I don't have any numbers to back it up - but it seems to me that the SF isn't as big a seller as the Monsters. Both very true. With the introduction of this new smaller engine, I can imagine Ducati using it in the monster, as an option in the future, still having the Streetfighter as the "performance" line of liquid cooled bikes. Ducati's lack of Streetfighter S sales are its own doing. Its competition is close in performance, but much cheaper in price, and the very real and well known expanding fuel tanks that are keeping people from buying the bike. Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: stopintime on November 16, 2012, 02:37:41 PM the 1098 SF is gone. only the 848 is there It's still on the 2013 program - Ducati.com. ---------- Many Ducatis already struggle with Euro3 demands. Euro4 will be here soon and Euro5 a couple of years after that. Manufacturers will have to do a lot of work to comply - 4valve watercooled is just the beginning. Closed electronics, quiet exhaust, filters, emission tested at all revs/loads, consumption restricted a.s.o. Hybrids next... Riding a bike is NOT going to be as fun [coffee] Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: SDRider on November 16, 2012, 04:37:14 PM It's still on the 2013 program - Ducati.com. ---------- Not according to DucatiUSA website. (http://s18.postimage.org/ojeb7yes9/ORLY.jpg) (http://postimage.org/) online photo sharing (http://postimage.org/) Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: jvax on November 16, 2012, 05:05:28 PM It's still on the 2013 program - Ducati.com. ---------- Many Ducatis already struggle with Euro3 demands. Euro4 will be here soon and Euro5 a couple of years after that. Manufacturers will have to do a lot of work to comply - 4valve watercooled is just the beginning. Closed electronics, quiet exhaust, filters, emission tested at all revs/loads, consumption restricted a.s.o. Hybrids next... Riding a bike is NOT going to be as fun [coffee] Sounds like Europe is heading where Japan is now. Soon, you guys will need a fugly third can and a dumbed down ECU to meet those standard... ...just like the Panigale in Japan [puke] (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8032/8005674823_1868082545_b.jpg) Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: stopintime on November 16, 2012, 05:26:23 PM Not according to DucatiUSA website. It's all over the place on Ducati.com, but not in the U.S. ??? Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: scduc on November 16, 2012, 05:37:22 PM (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8032/8005674823_1868082545_b.jpg) OMG, its like one of those stick on moles that a super-model would put on thats turns them from hot to ugly in a second Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: stopintime on November 16, 2012, 05:51:59 PM Plus a de-tuned ECU and extra sound reducing plastic engine covers [roll]
Yes, I'm really sorry, but that's what's going to happen. Can't remember how far out in the EuroX range they are, but the 'exhaust' coming out of current Euro trucks is actually cleaner than the big city air they suck in. Really! Imagine what a bike's performance will be like under those requirements [bang] Suddenly, an electric instant torque bike doesn't sound so bad (except for the sound).... I'm just glad I was here for the Termi thunder and cylinders filled with cannonballs before it all turns to tennisballs and rubber. Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: Howie on November 16, 2012, 09:17:58 PM There is indeed a Street Fighter S for 2013 on the sight.
http://www.ducati.com/compare/index.do?op=add&year1=21&year1_new_value=false&bikeFamily1=21&bikeFamily1_new_value=false&bikeModel1=74&bikeModel1_new_value=false (http://www.ducati.com/compare/index.do?op=add&year1=21&year1_new_value=false&bikeFamily1=21&bikeFamily1_new_value=false&bikeModel1=74&bikeModel1_new_value=false) As stated by SD, not on the US sight though. Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: Betty on November 16, 2012, 10:11:05 PM Re: the big Streetfighter
In Australia it is currently only available as a Special Order ... so available (as an S model) but not stocked. At a 61% premium over the 848 there should be no real surprise they wouldn't expect to sell too many. The only bikes in the catalogue more expensive are the MS Pikes Peak, Pani S and Pani Tri. Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: MadDuck on November 16, 2012, 11:26:24 PM The 821 gains 10 extra HP over the 1100 ( Hyper 1100 engine ) but loses 10 ft lbs of torque and has a more expensive engine to maintain.
Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: zooom on November 17, 2012, 04:32:15 AM the only reason potentially the new smller water cooled motor "might" go into a Monster framework is because of the extended service interval as a selling point IMHO even though the service might cost more, not having to do it as often measures up to more people riding based on the number of bikes that are sold at the major service intervals with it needing to still be done at time of sale.
Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: Raux on November 17, 2012, 05:52:31 AM 15,000 mile service (but double the cost)
+10 hp (but -10ft lb) plus added weight Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: Greg on November 17, 2012, 09:30:33 AM the only reason potentially the new smller water cooled motor "might" go into a Monster framework is because of the extended service interval as a selling point IMHO even though the service might cost more, not having to do it as often measures up to more people riding based on the number of bikes that are sold at the major service intervals with it needing to still be done at time of sale. I remember hearing somewhere that most of the big air cooled bikes would soon be water cooled due to noise and emissions constraints. We've seen the Hyper go water cooled and it wouldn't surprise me to see the monster go that way in the near future. Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: Howie on November 17, 2012, 10:08:30 AM I remember hearing somewhere that most of the big air cooled bikes would soon be water cooled due to noise and emissions constraints. We've seen the Hyper go water cooled and it wouldn't surprise me to see the monster go that way in the near future. That is the future. Same reason why we no longer have air cooled Porsche automobiles.. Title: Re: Testastretta 821 Monster? Post by: MadDuck on November 17, 2012, 11:24:38 AM That is the future. Same reason why we no longer have air cooled Porsche automobiles.. In one aspect that is a crying shame too. |