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Title: more new rules
Post by: gm2 on December 20, 2012, 12:18:59 PM
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Dec/121220a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Dec/121220a.htm)


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: Spidey on December 20, 2012, 01:33:09 PM
Good news -- that new points system for riding like a dick should result in a significant increase in the number of threads about how political Dorna is.


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: desmoquattro on December 20, 2012, 03:11:24 PM
Good news -- that new points system for riding like a dick should result in a significant increase in the number of threads about how political Dorna is.


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Once the ten point sanction has been imposed then points reset to Zero. Points are not carried forward to the following season.

I dunno...that seems like a Marc Marquez frequent flyer program  ;D


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: Speeddog on December 20, 2012, 08:19:02 PM
"To ensure that teams in the Moto3 are supplied with engines of the same specification at a reasonable price it has been agreed that engines will be supplied via the series organisers and distributed randomly. Engines will not be returned for maintenance but having completed normal mileage will be retained by teams for other purposes or sale on."

WTF?

I thought all the Moto3 engines were bought items?

And there's several manufacturers?

WTF?


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: Speeddog on December 20, 2012, 08:42:00 PM
OK, cliff notes here:

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2012/12/20/analyzing_motogp_s_new_rules_the_marquez.html (http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2012/12/20/analyzing_motogp_s_new_rules_the_marquez.html)


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: fastwin on January 04, 2013, 08:06:08 AM
Well there goes WSBK as we know it... [roll]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130104a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130104a.htm)



Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: thought on January 04, 2013, 08:09:40 AM
Well there goes WSBK as we know it... [roll]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130104a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130104a.htm)



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Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: fastwin on January 04, 2013, 11:57:07 AM
^ this! :P


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: gm2 on January 04, 2013, 12:14:30 PM
gosh that's surprising.


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: desmoquattro on January 04, 2013, 12:42:56 PM
I'm tellin ya...next they'll eliminate right turns.
(http://www.bikerhotline.com/eventcoverage/2012/12_easyriders_bike_tour_sacramento_2012_bmitchell/assets/images/db_images/db_IMG_09581.jpg)
(http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/15/12/37/44/nasbik11.png)


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: duccarlos on January 06, 2013, 07:38:12 AM
 :-X


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: Raux on January 06, 2013, 08:05:13 AM
let's see... MotoGP sucks, so let's grab ahold of the better series, WSBK, and make it suck more, so we don't look like we suck so bad.



Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: desmoquattro on January 06, 2013, 09:05:00 AM
let's see... MotoGP sucks, so let's grab ahold of the better series, WSBK, and make it suck more, so we don't look like we suck so bad.

Congratulations...you've just described the business model of most private equity firms [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: thought on January 13, 2013, 05:07:16 PM
I was thinking about this...

Do you think this will slow down R&D for showroom sbk's because they prob wont allow that much engine modding under the new rules or spur development of stock engine power and create a new hp war?  Maybe see more homogolation specials?


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: OT on January 14, 2013, 10:13:48 PM
I think manufacturers will spend/do as little as possible to keep selling new bikes....one thing's for sure, it'll be based on far more marketing and far less technology for a few years so the homologation specials (marketing) might be one way - although, for example, I don't know how well/poorly the Nicky Hayden Ducati sold.


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: derby on January 15, 2013, 11:01:34 AM
...homologation specials (marketing) might be one way - although, for example, I don't know how well/poorly the Nicky Hayden Ducati sold.

the nicky duc wasn't a homologation special. he's referring more to the the ducati "r" or "rs" bikes, the kawasaki zx-rr, and yamaha yzf-r7 type models. those bikes are specifically built in adequate numbers to legalize configurations that are more desirable in race-trim than the sold-for-street-the-masses models.


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: OT on January 15, 2013, 06:47:22 PM
Je comprends....aren't homologations produced in 'limited' numbers, like only 50 or 100 units?


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: Speeddog on January 15, 2013, 08:45:28 PM
2012 regulations were a minimum of 2000 units available to the general public by the end of the year.


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: zooom on January 16, 2013, 05:54:53 AM
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130116b.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130116b.htm)

and the picture is starting to come clearer...


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: desmoquattro on January 16, 2013, 07:49:29 AM
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Dorna: ruining perfectly good things since 1988...


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: thought on January 16, 2013, 08:04:00 AM
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Dorna: ruining perfectly good things since 1988...

we should just rename  [bang] from "bang" to "dorna"


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: thought on January 16, 2013, 08:05:00 AM
2012 regulations were a minimum of 2000 units available to the general public by the end of the year.

Ah, didnt know that... so that's just going to kill off the homogolation idea I see... and I guess that 1199r's arent limited edition then?


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: zooom on January 16, 2013, 08:23:40 AM
I guess that 1199r's arent limited edition then?

no....and they haven't been for a while...they have been building "R" models for sale to privateer race teams as well as the general public for homologation for a long time....


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: duccarlos on January 16, 2013, 10:12:06 AM
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130116b.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Jan/130116b.htm)

and the picture is starting to come clearer...

At least half of that article is good news. Having CRT bikes being that far off the pace was ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as the prototype Ducs being that far off.


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: gm2 on January 16, 2013, 03:23:37 PM
Ah, didnt know that... so that's just going to kill off the homogolation idea I see... and I guess that 1199r's arent limited edition then?

homologation idea?  2000 units = homologated.


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: Raux on January 26, 2013, 05:30:24 AM
Well I've finally get the point of Q1 and Q2

gets the CRTs out of the way of the GPs


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: OT on January 27, 2013, 06:22:33 PM
Talking heads from the marketing departments...foam started to come out of my ears at around 2:30....

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/why-motogp-is-the-ultimate-alt-investment-zEMbM1VdTFWq_90vOpUcAQ.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/video/why-motogp-is-the-ultimate-alt-investment-zEMbM1VdTFWq_90vOpUcAQ.html)


Title: Re: more new rules
Post by: duccarlos on January 28, 2013, 09:36:21 AM
This type of investment is exactly what the marketing egg heads need to expand MotoGP in the US. I'm surprised that the factories are not pushing for even more races in the US, simply because it's the one market that everyone should be focused on while Europe continues to be a mess.


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