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Title: panigale
Post by: jaxduc on May 15, 2013, 04:52:34 PM
You guys seen this yet?
(http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/jessethibodaux/facebook_1709749592_zpsda838e31.jpg)


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: DexterMorgan on May 15, 2013, 05:06:29 PM
Wow, very cool.  Check out the guy in the left corner with the sunglasses........he is saying, daaaaaaaamn!     [laugh]


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: jaxduc on May 15, 2013, 05:08:44 PM
Honorary monster


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Grampa on May 15, 2013, 06:53:34 PM
im confused...its just a race bike with a side panel off for some reason.


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: hbliam on May 15, 2013, 08:01:02 PM
im confused...its just a race bike with a side panel off for some reason.

That's what I was thinking.


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Triple J on May 15, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
im confused...its just a race bike with a side panel off for some reason.

+1

Looks like 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag!  ;D


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: ZLTFUL on May 16, 2013, 05:39:57 AM
I was thinking "Oh look...Ducati got tired of winning WSBK races so they made something that wouldn't."


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Bill in OKC on May 16, 2013, 07:01:50 AM
The trickle-down of MotoGP technology was not supposed to work that way.  Bring back the trellis.


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: wasabi on May 16, 2013, 07:06:26 AM
At least it might draw some of the heat from the engine  :P
Doesn't look good though...


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: jaxduc on May 16, 2013, 07:16:44 AM
the only thing I think is cool about the pani is the rear shock/spring set up. and the exhaust. and the engine. ok I'm just saying that if someone gave me one, i would take it.
just sayin.  [roll]


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Raux on May 16, 2013, 07:52:21 AM
I was thinking "Oh look...Ducati got tired of winning WSBK races so they made something that wouldn't."

 ;D  [laugh]  [clap]


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: ChrisK on May 16, 2013, 07:57:59 AM
I believe the purpose is just so the people at that event can see the internals of the bike. That's not the final product.


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Stormtrooper on May 16, 2013, 08:06:55 AM
I was thinking "Oh look...Ducati got tired of winning WSBK races so they made something that wouldn't."

I guess you haven't followed world SBK this year...or last year...or MotoGP...Ducati isnt the dominant figure they once were.

The 1199 hasn't exactly helped Ducatis racing efforts, its the prettiest for sure, but not the fastest around a track.  It gets bested by the "jap" bikes we so frequently bag on lol.

That being said, I would still give a testicle for an 1199R


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Raux on May 16, 2013, 08:11:14 AM
I guess you haven't followed world SBK this year...or last year...or MotoGP...Ducati isnt the dominant figure they once were.

The 1199 hasn't exactly helped Ducatis racing efforts, its the prettiest for sure, but not the fastest around a track.  It gets bested by the "jap" bikes we so frequently bag on lol.

That being said, I would still give a testicle for an 1199R

actually that's exactly what he was thinking


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Triple J on May 16, 2013, 08:24:40 AM
First, Ducati hasn't ever been dominant in MotoGP, except in Stoner's championship year. One season does not make dominance.

Second, the 1199 isn't winning in WSBK because of the intake restrictions that are placed on twins due to their extra 200 cc capacity. The new motor is designed to rev, but needs to breathe, which it can't. It has nothing to do with the chassis design.

Watch a World Superstock race where there are no such restrictions. The 1199 runs up front with the other big horsepower bikes, namely Kawasaki and BMW.

That said...the RSV4 is a better bike all around IMO. No way I'd race an 1199...that shock is just waiting to get destroyed in a minor lowside.


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Stormtrooper on May 16, 2013, 09:37:19 AM
First, Ducati hasn't ever been dominant in MotoGP, except in Stoner's championship year. One season does not make dominance.

Second, the 1199 isn't winning in WSBK because of the intake restrictions that are placed on twins due to their extra 200 cc capacity. The new motor is designed to rev, but needs to breathe, which it can't. It has nothing to do with the chassis design.

Watch a World Superstock race where there are no such restrictions. The 1199 runs up front with the other big horsepower bikes, namely Kawasaki and BMW.

That said...the RSV4 is a better bike all around IMO. No way I'd race an 1199...that shock is just waiting to get destroyed in a minor lowside.

^ truth ^.  The dominance reference was referring to WSBK.  Ducati has claimed 5 championships out of the last 10 seasons.  More than any other manufacturer.  Some would call that dominance.


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: spolic on May 16, 2013, 09:37:28 AM
(http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/jessethibodaux/facebook_1709749592_zpsda838e31.jpg)

Man in black t-shirt: "Your nuts go here, and they burn."


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Raux on May 16, 2013, 09:40:55 AM

Second, the 1199 isn't winning in WSBK because of the intake restrictions that are placed on twins due to their extra 200 cc capacity. The new motor is designed to rev, but needs to breathe, which it can't. It has nothing to do with the chassis design.

Watch a World Superstock race where there are no such restrictions. The 1199 runs up front with the other big horsepower bikes, namely Kawasaki and BMW.

but it's not like Ducati didn't know about the restrictions.  [bang]
The highest ranked Ducati in WSBK is nearly 100 pts behind. That's embarrassing.

and in motogp, they were winning races in the first years. even finishing as high as second in the constructors' championship before Stoner's romp. while not dominating, it wasn't a dog like it is now. but it got progressively worse the more preziosi messed with it.

and really, who counts superstock. WSS gets more respect.


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Triple J on May 16, 2013, 10:24:12 AM
but it's not like Ducati didn't know about the restrictions.  [bang]
The highest ranked Ducati in WSBK is nearly 100 pts behind. That's embarrassing.

and in motogp, they were winning races in the first years. even finishing as high as second in the constructors' championship before Stoner's romp. while not dominating, it wasn't a dog like it is now. but it got progressively worse the more preziosi messed with it.

and really, who counts superstock. WSS gets more respect.


Of course they knew about the restrictions. They also knew that the old motor design wasn't capable of winning anymore, so something drastic had to be done. I'm sure they're hoping to get the intake restrictions eased.

The Superstock comment was just to show that the new motor is capable of running at the front, as is the chassis. Keep in mind too...Checa has been hurt all season, which makes the results look even worse.

All that said, I have no idea why Ducati doesn't just dump the twin for a V4 for their SBKs so it isn't an issue.

The spec tire is what largely killed their GP bike, not necessarily the chassis. The bike was a dog as soon as the spec. Bridgestones were introduced, and they've never been able to recover, even after dumping Preziosi's frameless design for a  twin spar chassis a couple years ago. It wasn't ever a great bike though.


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Raux on May 16, 2013, 10:27:37 AM
make a twin using these

(http://www.millersmule.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Oval_Piston.jpg)


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Skybarney on May 16, 2013, 10:41:16 AM
^^^^  I think I just wet myself......


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: xsephirot on May 16, 2013, 10:54:47 AM
Look at the thread on that rear wheel. Some ridiculous wet weather riding?


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: Triple J on May 16, 2013, 11:21:42 AM
Look at the thread on that rear wheel. Some ridiculous wet weather riding?

That's a rain race tire.


Title: Re: panigale
Post by: kopfjÀger on May 16, 2013, 05:33:02 PM
Wow, very cool.  Check out the guy in the left corner with the sunglasses........he is saying, daaaaaaaamn!     [laugh]

He is amazed that Aviators have made a come back.


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