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[Stormtrooper]

First, Ducati hasn't ever been dominant in MotoGP, except in Stoner's championship year. One season does not make dominance.

Second, the 1199 isn't winning in WSBK because of the intake restrictions that are placed on twins due to their extra 200 cc capacity. The new motor is designed to rev, but needs to breathe, which it can't. It has nothing to do with the chassis design.

Watch a World Superstock race where there are no such restrictions. The 1199 runs up front with the other big horsepower bikes, namely Kawasaki and BMW.

That said...the RSV4 is a better bike all around IMO. No way I'd race an 1199...that shock is just waiting to get destroyed in a minor lowside.

^ truth ^.  The dominance reference was referring to WSBK.  Ducati has claimed 5 championships out of the last 10 seasons.  More than any other manufacturer.  Some would call that dominance.

[spolic]

Man in black t-shirt: "Your nuts go here, and they burn."

[Raux]

Second, the 1199 isn't winning in WSBK because of the intake restrictions that are placed on twins due to their extra 200 cc capacity. The new motor is designed to rev, but needs to breathe, which it can't. It has nothing to do with the chassis design.

Watch a World Superstock race where there are no such restrictions. The 1199 runs up front with the other big horsepower bikes, namely Kawasaki and BMW.

but it's not like Ducati didn't know about the restrictions. 
The highest ranked Ducati in WSBK is nearly 100 pts behind. That's embarrassing.

and in motogp, they were winning races in the first years. even finishing as high as second in the constructors' championship before Stoner's romp. while not dominating, it wasn't a dog like it is now. but it got progressively worse the more preziosi messed with it.

and really, who counts superstock. WSS gets more respect.

[Triple J]

but it's not like Ducati didn't know about the restrictions. 
The highest ranked Ducati in WSBK is nearly 100 pts behind. That's embarrassing.

and in motogp, they were winning races in the first years. even finishing as high as second in the constructors' championship before Stoner's romp. while not dominating, it wasn't a dog like it is now. but it got progressively worse the more preziosi messed with it.

and really, who counts superstock. WSS gets more respect.

Of course they knew about the restrictions. They also knew that the old motor design wasn't capable of winning anymore, so something drastic had to be done. I'm sure they're hoping to get the intake restrictions eased.

The Superstock comment was just to show that the new motor is capable of running at the front, as is the chassis. Keep in mind too...Checa has been hurt all season, which makes the results look even worse.

All that said, I have no idea why Ducati doesn't just dump the twin for a V4 for their SBKs so it isn't an issue.

The spec tire is what largely killed their GP bike, not necessarily the chassis. The bike was a dog as soon as the spec. Bridgestones were introduced, and they've never been able to recover, even after dumping Preziosi's frameless design for a  twin spar chassis a couple years ago. It wasn't ever a great bike though.

[Raux]

make a twin using these

[Skybarney]

^^^^  I think I just wet myself......

[xsephirot]

Look at the thread on that rear wheel. Some ridiculous wet weather riding?

[Triple J]

Look at the thread on that rear wheel. Some ridiculous wet weather riding?

That's a rain race tire.

[kopfjäger]

Wow, very cool.  Check out the guy in the left corner with the sunglasses........he is saying, daaaaaaaamn!     

He is amazed that Aviators have made a come back.