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Title: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: Slide Panda on July 16, 2013, 03:55:16 AM
On the snake, an unwise move from a toyota in the pull off leads to a collision with a sport classic. Shockingly, the bike ends up mostly ok, and the car gets all buggered up.

ABS - Would it Have Saved Him? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mHXJmI_yzE#)

Arm chair quarterbacking, it doesn't seem like the SC rider used the front brakes at all or very little, and he had room to evade. But, youtube makes experts of us all...


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: ducpainter on July 16, 2013, 04:03:51 AM
Isn't this more of a Riding Techniques thread?

(hint hint)


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: Slide Panda on July 16, 2013, 04:12:30 AM
I debated. But decided it was more of a crash up video.

I/we could point fingers at it technique or lack of... but i figured car bits all over were more interesting.

So, I won't cry if you move it. But I did actaully think it through before posting to Gen Mon


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: red baron on July 16, 2013, 05:23:24 AM
1) rider went where he was looking.

2) He had not much room left or he would have ended up in the gravel pebbles on the edge of the road.

3) Car should not have been making the maneuver that they were attempting.



Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: spolic on July 16, 2013, 07:31:41 AM
I don't know how the car didn't see him coming with those shiny fork reflectors.


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: zooom on July 16, 2013, 08:42:56 AM
Toyota build quality ain't what it used to be....either that or they are beuilt to be torn apart at a simple impact for higher impact repair costs...


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: DRKWNG on July 16, 2013, 06:50:22 PM
Toyota build quality ain't what it used to be....either that or they are beuilt to be torn apart at a simple impact for higher impact repair costs...

Crumple zones. 


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: hbliam on July 16, 2013, 08:39:19 PM
Crumple zones.  

It didn't crumple, it fell off.  :)
He must have caught a peg on just the right spot.


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: polivo on July 17, 2013, 02:22:13 PM
It didn't crumple, it fell off.  :)
He must have caught a peg on just the right spot.

The whole front of the car is the right spot on that plastic POS! lol


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: DRKWNG on July 17, 2013, 02:28:04 PM
It didn't crumple, it fell off.

So it exceeded expectations.


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: DucatiBastard on July 17, 2013, 07:16:11 PM
The whole front of the car is the right spot on that plastic POS! lol

The whole front of the car being the bumper cover? The bumper cover that was designed and engineered to absorb and deflect crash energy?

If this was an older vehicle with metal bumpers (or even a new truck) the motorcycle and rider would have been worse off.

That Bumper Cover and Energy Absorber (that was the long black thing the camera guy picked up) did the precise job they were built to do. The vehicle is hardly a "POS"


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: Randimus Maximus on July 17, 2013, 07:27:35 PM
Toyota build quality ain't what it used to be....either that or they are beuilt to be torn apart at a simple impact for higher impact repair costs...

You can thank the gubmint for mandating that the bumper cover & foam absorber doing exactly as they are supposed to in that type of an impact. 

Google 5MPH bumper regulation for some good reading on the matter.


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: zooom on July 18, 2013, 03:11:35 AM
You can thank the gubmint for mandating that the bumper cover & foam absorber doing exactly as they are supposed to in that type of an impact. 

Google 5MPH bumper regulation for some good reading on the matter.

oh, I fully know...but they are also by design supposed to take impact towards the car and the retainer bracketry on most is meant to give way with any impact force...but I just haven't seen one practically pop off in the manner like that one did...usually it takes some good "ripping" force in that kind of impact if designed/assembled properly.


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: Shawn C on July 18, 2013, 04:09:47 AM
What the hell was she doing? Her wheels never turned to go left, she just continued straight.


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: Slide Panda on July 18, 2013, 04:29:05 AM
What the hell was she doing? Her wheels never turned to go left, she just continued straight.

Panicked when she realized she'd pulled out infront of someone and jammed the brakes as her only reaction
 


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: Steve.In.Atlanta on July 18, 2013, 05:00:58 AM
The good thing for the rider was they got back up and it doesn't look like the handlebars turned into the tank leaving a big dent.


Title: Re: Sport Classic 1, Toyota 0
Post by: Buckethead on July 18, 2013, 05:18:38 AM
Plastic tank. Much harder to dent.


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