I heard that you should not sit on the bike or should not turn around bike manually while it's on side stand, that it will break very weak engine base and damage it etc.
Is that true? Were there any reports that side stand brakes under rider (<200lbs) or something????
I see a lot of people sit on their jap bikes and make a lot of pressure to stands and nothing bad happens and me standing next to bike afraid to brake the stand.
I think the new engine cases on all the bikes are made with a different process making them lighter, not sure if that makes then less strong.
but I would never sit on a ducati bike on it's sidestand and I weigh 165
just no reason to tempt fate. I've seen what it does to a case when it breaks there (shippers put a guys bike on the sidestand in a crate)
the jap bikes and Harley's sidestands are attached the frame IIRC not the motor
I spin my old bike on the stand.
I know a tech that broke the cases on an 848 doing the same.
Ducati made the cases thinner to save weight on the new gen bikes.
Don't know if sitting on the bike will do any harm.
Well, thanks guys for quick and informative response.
I spun my bike on the side stand the other day. Now I am scared too. [bang]
Shipper is picking up my bike today or tomorrow. Definitely asking if he can transport w/out the kickstand down now...
Checked around 10 jap bikes these day, and all side stands mounts to frame.
When my 09 was knocked over the case was cracked, when the tow truck driver cinched down the straps he finished the job. Never tie one of these bikes down on the stand!
You can safely spin a Ducati on the side stand if you keep the majority of the weight off the stand.
Quote from: howie on August 03, 2013, 04:48:47 PM
You can safely spin a Ducati on the side stand if you keep the majority of the weight off the stand.
I don't think that still applies fellow dinosaur. ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on August 03, 2013, 04:56:55 PM
I don't think that still applies fellow dinosaur. ;D
I would hope the better casting process would make up for the thinner castings on the new engines, but better to err on the side of caution. Listen to the other dinosaur ;D
AFAIK
The new casting process allows thinner sections, and less porosity.
So lighter parts and lower manufacturing cost.
But I'll look for more specific info.
Dunno where I saw it, but I recall a pic that showed the new cases on the inside, just has lumps for the threaded holes, no reinforcing ribs tho.
http://www.ducatiusa.com/bikes/multistrada/multistrada_1200/engine/crankcase___vacural__technology/index.do (http://www.ducatiusa.com/bikes/multistrada/multistrada_1200/engine/crankcase___vacural__technology/index.do)
I have 30,000 plus miles on my 09 M1100s and where I park I can only get out by spinning on the side stand. I have had no issues so far, but will keep an eye on it. I have not heard personally of issues of this.
FWIW I kind of lift the front by grabbing just behind the seat and leaning towards myself and kind of drag the rear around (if that made any sense at all). I dont "balance" the bike in the air on the side stand I guess you could say.
Scott
Can't just exit the way you entered?
Actually I park it on my covered porch and have to fit between the side of my house and my truck and car. I just ride between the house and vehicles onto the porch. I guess you would call it a "tandem" car port. Anyway, WAY harder to try to back all the way out than spin her and ride her out...
back in? that's what I do in the garage
Quote from: scooterd145 on October 03, 2013, 11:16:14 AM
Actually I park it on my covered porch and have to fit between the side of my house and my truck and car. I just ride between the house and vehicles onto the porch. I guess you would call it a "tandem" car port. Anyway, WAY harder to try to back all the way out than spin her and ride her out...
I don't back my bikes up while sitting on them. It's a pain when your inseam is too close to the seat inseam.
I either ride around the parking spot (I've been known to ride on an occasional bit of dirt or jump an occasional curb) or get off to back it up. The bike is just less unwieldy when I am not trying to tippy-toe it back on compromised traction (I have yet to pave my driveway, and the PO decided contractor grade gravel was a suitable substance to make a driveway).
Finally it happened to my side stand.
Came up to friend to top up battery acid and he noticed that side stand is lose and needs to be tighten up. He tried to do that and noticed that main bolt is just broken lol.
Part that left at bike was so soft that it broken again when he tried to turn it off with pliers.
I am not sure if it was native bolt to this bike, but I don't remember anyone touched this part of bike so..
It has letter "L" on it's hat. If it's native not sure why it made from not armored steel.
Ended up with drilling out piece that left in engine lol.