Ducati Monster Forum

I figured it was time to break out an start a mods thread for my bike.

One she was all cleaned up and road worthy again.
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Then I decided to do an exhaust.

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Wet sanded and Polished the exhaust for a cleaner look.
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It bronzed and blued pretty fast after it was done.
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Now I'm working on removing the airbox and installing the bracket designed by DoWorkSon. During which i got carried away and just decided to remove all that plastic garbage for that canister.

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More to come later once I get stacks and some other cool goodies. I'm not really into billet this and carbon that but more so about removing shit that doesn't really need to be there and going for as close to a minimalistic approach as possible. That and I hate crappy plastic covers.

Looks nice, my blue header pipe is driving me nuts. Lol

Velocity stacks attack!!! I went with the corse dynamics kit from motowheels. Anyone that has said they didn't really notice any induction noise is crazy. I have not tuned the bike yet but will do so as soon as I figure out what my best route is going to be. Call me crazy but the bike seemed way better just because of the filters. I was cruising at in second at 2000-2250 rpm and wasn't being bucked off like riding a bull.

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One thing I will add that I didn't take a picture of is that the crank case breather should probably be relocated or SOMETHING as its mega close to the rear header so when you're at speed it's blowing that filter oil onto the header. (Maybe I just applied too much?) and smoking like crazy. I came to a stop light and thought my make the beast with two backsing bike was on fire.

C'mon, there has to be more pictures of the velocity stack install that that!!

What have you decided to do about tuning?

Answers man, I need answers!

Mark

Or deaf.  I reckon I hear more roar from induction than from exhaust  [evil].

Your K+Ns look taller and narrower than mine.

I think the science is that we dont gain any HP from throwing away the airbox....  but... that's not how it feels  ;D.

How's your ECU and ABS gizmometry mounted?

Without any fueling modifications... you are most likely running very lean....  I'd wanna get onto that asap  [thumbsup]

I'm guessing you give some hp away with losing the airbox, but gain some from those beautiful  velocity stacks.

It would be great to see someone test those velocity stacks in a well designed airbox. I'd like to see EVR make carbon airboxes for the Monster models.
At least the pods are large enough to have some useful volume and large surface area.

They do look cool. The look is raw, minimalist and brutal. I like it.

my issue with pods on the new monsters is the now faux intake on the tank

So either in the two weeks that it was sitting while I did this the battery drained, I mixed up the fuel lines when reinstalling (I think it wouldn't run at all), or I'm running super super lean because its not wanting to stay started at start up unless I'm on the gas a little bit.

I agree with Mark.  There might be two more installs in the future :o
Mark and I both need some

Cool happenings over here!  Very curious how you mounted the ABS crap with no airbox.  I know the mount doworkson made doesn't support the ABS equipment.  Can we get some closeups of your setup?

Update: it was a low battery charge. It still has a bit of a weak start because its still running lean until I can get it tuned. But damn whacking that throttle open at speed is just like music. Reminds me of a 650cfm holly 4-barrel.

Storm- I didn't take any pictures as its just secured on with piece of sheet metal that I cut, grinded, and bent to hold the abs module. It's still pretty rough looking but once I get it back apart to replace my battery with a lightweight one ill snap a picture.

You agreeing with me?? It is about time you came to your senses!!

Mark

Whats the issue?  That they're still there?  It crossed my mind to have some skins modified to eliminate the vents.... but then I came to the conlusion that I like 'em.  If you have em painted matt black they - weirdly - seem to become more see through, allowing more of a glimpse at the inner goodness......

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But lean for sure, sucking in way more air than before.

I don't know, to me the intakes are somewhat of a ram styling intake (if you look from the front especially on my bike it can appear that way.
but even still, the pods stick so low, that the intakes seem out of place.

make the beast with two backs no, just want free labor.

One of the 2 or 3 pipes that looks good on this EVO thing.  How does it sound though?  Compared to dual pipes?

Just comparing it to the dual pipe termis, the dual cans are much more of a tame low, deep rumble. Whereas my setup is very loud and throaty. Not as deep as the dual cans but much more racy in my opinion.

We'll I went and got it tuned today. I left with The exhaust valve disabled, 02 disabled, and open loop.

The results were a little disappointing. 85 peak hp but with a fatter more linear power curve all the way from idle to redline. I didn't really get to run it out and just flog it because when it was time to head out, it started pouring down rain.

But here's a picture of my frame stickers removed and a Ducati Dallas sticker in its place.

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Next up. TAIL TIDY!

Nick:

are you located in Dallas?

Rodger dodger.

would love to visit your shop whenever I get down to Dallas from OKC

We'll I'm not really working out of a shop. Just a really clean garage. Haha

Why have you taken to deleting thread subjects lately?

It's annoying.

What are you talking about? I haven't deleted anything...

In your reply to my post there is no subject...on my screen at least.

Maybe a software glitch, but I haven't noticed it from other posters.

All my posts are done from tapatalk. So maybe that's the cause.

perhaps.

If that's the case then tapatalk is annoying.  ;D

I'll have to contact them if it becomes more prevalent.

let us know before you head down.  Surely we can rouse a few for an event to ride, tell lies and drinking while a select "few" do the manual labor.  ;D

Nick, why are you disappointed with the numbers? 

Because hypers with stacks and full tunes were running around 100 rwhp avg. I was hoping for 90-95 and in the end came up short.

Keep in mind though, I have no idea what a totally stock 1100 evo puts down so I don't have anything to compare to.

Found a great deal locally on  CRG bar end mirrors I couldn't pass up. I originally wanted the lane splitters but whatever.

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NEXT is going to be a tail tidy.

On the dyno at my shop...


EVO1100 Motor with a Single Spark 1100 (non evo) MAP from a Hyper with net 88rwhp.
Full tune for rideability with TPO Beast-R and slip on exhaust nets 93rwhp.
There was a map to get it up to 96rwhp but it didnt run very well.

This is without a PCV, and MM doesnt allow you to do much outside of fuel mapping.

So presumeably, with a PCV, and a full exhaust from the headers up 100rwhp is very attainable on the 1100EVO.

Im pretty happy with my 93rwhp though its smooth as make the beast with two backs. This is an S2R1000 with an 1100EVO motor.

Isn't this also because the hyper 1100evo got a lot of nice lightweight parts like flywheel, clutch basket, etc? Causing it to be smoother?

Thats great. I. was wondering how your S2R evo was going. So you reckon to go with the Beast R kit over an open airbox? My brother is considering the Beast kit. I'll have to tell him your results.

I thought they were different motors. the new 1100EVO (monster) has a lighter cases and a wet clutch. If it has hyper and the monster has the same goodies inside the engine, im not sure.

I do know the Monster 1100EVO motor has larger valves, hotter cams, and lighter internal parts. is it smoother? i havent ridden a stock one, so i don't know. After my tune though its REALLY smooth.

koko64,
Since my last tune, ive only put about 1000 miles on it and  tons of wheelies (ahem wheelie attempts). I the only reason i say go with the beast R is that the top end IMHO has a lot more room for improvement because of the bigger valves, and the hotter cams as well as the upped rev limit. Its got significantly better top end rush than the original DS1100 motors. I am still on the hunt for a multi 1100 so i can do a swap, yea its the same CC but totally different motor!!!

Its not inline four smooth, but its slightly smoother. Turns out after having done some research, lighter internals (crank, rods, flywheel, clutch basket, etc) will actually lead to a less smooth engine. However, it will spin up much faster as it isnt trying to turn as much weight.

"The 1100 Desmodue Evoluzione engine's crankcases are vacuum cast using the same Vacural technology used for the latest Ducati Superbike engines, saving weight.

In addition to the new magnesium alternator cover, the Ducati 1100 Desmodue Evoluzione engine now has a lighter crankshaft assembly, using an 848-style Superbike flywheel, and the search for further weight reduction even went as far as using lightweight rare-earth magnets for the generator assembly."

Are there that many differences between the 1100 evo motors? Or is that compaired to a DS1100?

Apparently both the monster 1100 evo and hypermotard 1100 evo use the desmodue evoluzione. The difference being the hyper got a dry clutch set up for the evo and evo SP models. The DS1100 is a totally different engine which actually quite surprising to me as I thought they just redesigned the heads for the evo. That being said, I wonder what it would take to get the hypers dry clutch set up in the monster.

I still wonder though why the hypers are able to make better power? Is it because the Siemens Ecu sucks for tuning compared to Magneti? Is the DS1100 a better engine for high HP tuning? Or maybe they just used a more expensive stacks kit that has a bigger trumpet. I don't know. As long as I'm not getting stuck in stop and go traffic she purrs. I was able to pull the front end up under hard acceleration shifting in 2nd.