Ducati Monster Forum

06 Monster 620 for sale. No damage. One owner. 5k miles. Last serviced las summer because he had no time to ride this summer. Asking $4500.

Is there anything in particular I should know about this year/make/model? Any quirks? Any big maintenance that should've been done? Should I talk him down or is that a fair price? NADA has it at $4k.

Any info would be great. Thanks.

last summer as of 2013 or 2012? Anyways, ask for records, if tires are OEM, replace, belts should have been replaced at least every 2 years, check fork seals, brake/clutch fluids need replacing every 2 years . . . if a Dark model, make sure that reservoir lids are in good condition . ..

i would play close attention to the tank (pretty sure '06 was plastic) and ensure no swelling has happened, since it sounds like it sat for a year.

What part of the country?

Indoors or out?

Seems a bit high to me, and modifications, exhaust, etc....

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/mcy/4021347162.html (http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/mcy/4021347162.html)


Example of a good ad, buy.

Eastern pa. Indoors mostly.
Here is the ad...

http://allentown.craigslist.org/mcy/4022941254.html

Here is the ad. http://allentown.craigslist.org/mcy/4022941254.html

How much should I offer if it all looks good?

  Bike appears clean, and well cared for other than the spill which is evident in the exhaust scrapes and Blue Book is around the asking price.  Being he's the original owner he may have sentimental feelings towards selling it and may not be too keen on low balling.
  All considered, if you really like it, $3,800-$4,100

(If it were me, I'd wait around for an "05" with a metal tank........which I did. I payed 4k)

So, it's got a tail chop, shorty adj levers, bar end mirrors, aftermarket grips, all good.

Find out if the last service done was the 6k, if not find out how much it's going to cost and deduct that from the sale price. If the tank is plastic ask if it was replaced. If it was replaced ask if it was coated. Just so you know. If it has not been replaced, see if the mounts are resting on the frame and see how close the latch is to the ignition switch. If either looks off, have him agree to get the tank replaced or at least try.

Otherwise looks like a good buy.

How much worse is the plastic tank?

Does ducati replace them for free as part of a recall or something?

Also what's in the 6K service?

He means 6000 mile service. The dealer will look at the tank and determine if it's swollen. if it is, they will try replace the mounts to push the tank away from the ignition. If it's really warped, they will replace the tank. At that point the recommendation is to coat the tank to avoid further swelling.

Is that a "free of charge" service since its a design flaw or something? Is the plastic tank immensely worse than a metal tank?

A 6k service is definitely NOT free.

There's no real difference in the tanks, just look for the signs of expansion.

So apparently the free tank service for those models expired 8/14/13. Missed it by 12 days. Terrible luck. The cost for the service would be $990.

I'm sad now.

:(

amantaban,

to put it into some perspective, I am working on a 2002 Monster 620 Dark that the new owner purchased for $3000.00, the bike has 6000kms or about 4000miles, between parts and labor, he will spend almost $6000.00 on it, for him, he feels that is worth it . . .
 
so, haggle the price a little to at least have the service cost "covered" . . .

Thanks for that but of perspective. Might as well buy a new one.

The last service on this one was done March 2012 and this is what was done...

Basic oil change
Change brake/clutch hydraulic fluids
Inspection
Test battery
Rear brake light buffer


Realistically, what am I going to need to get done/how much will it cost to get this good and ready? It's just under 6K and I'm not sure if the belts were even changed yet. I'm still trying to find out.

Well, no dealer where I am, he got it from someone who didn't use it as often, 2002 and it has only 6000kms . .  about 600kms/year; I do at least 2000km/yr . . . He wanted one and the S4R he tested, gave him the 'no no', too much power.

Well, the 6K service is a very important service, valves are checked and adjusted, again, no matter how much the bike has run since March 2012, oil should be changed. Also other things are done, here is the link to the bike's users manual, just select the year, model of bike (http://www.ducati.com/services/maintenance/index.do)

I have a M620, and it's 7 yrs old and I have replaced my belts 3 times already, checked my valves at least 2 times, somehow, they have managed to stay within spec, I replace my hydraulic fluids, once a year due to my location, I change oil at least twice a year . . . I enjoy my bike a lot

The tank issue, as someone mentioned, if it expands, either get a new one and coat it or search for a metal one and convert to use with your bike. I am doing this

You are thinking this way too much, IMHO, if you like the bike, take the plunge; if you don't feel "OK" with it, walk away.

Price seems a bit high.  For comparison I paid $3900 for a '03 4 years ago.  it had about 6k miles on it at the time.  not to mention he's sticking you with the 6k service, which as others have said isn't cheap.

Your last paragraph...

It makes sense. Also, that link is sweet.

Is the tank swelling ever going to harm anything?

I read that if you drain all the fuel, and let it sit inside in a temp controlled environment, it will return to its normal size. Can anyone confirm this?

The tank can swell enough to interfere with the latch and even reduce steering lock.
Integrity can be compromised.
Leakage, though rare, can happen.

Ducati is not alone with this problem.

There are fixes. 

There are several threads about this on the board.  Read up, starting here  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43639.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43639.0)

Thanks everybody!

So I just picked up something similar, 05 S2R with only 2,400 miles on it.

It's 8 yrs old but low mileage.  Dealer I bought it from did all fluids and "said" they went through it well (they're reputable).

Should I be concerned about the belts due to the age?  Even if it's such low mileage and been kept indoors?

Ask the dealer for any service record. In theory, the belts should be replaced every few years or 6K miles (if I'm not mistaken). On an 05, they should have replaced the belts at least once, if not twice.

I found something else out that I need an opinion on. From what the seller is telling me, the service that was done last summer (oil change, fluids) was the only service the bike ever had other than the 500 mile check up. So belts have never been changed, valves have never been adjusted and it had the same oil for more than 5 years.

Should I avoid this entirely?

Make sure he's got both keys.. black and red. I paid $4500 for a 2005 620 Dark in great condition with 4000 miles on it in 2010 so yes additional years should lower the price. If you're buying a Ducati especially this vintage the service costs are something you're either going to pay every 6K miles or do at least some of them yourself if you're handy enough (pick up a Haynes Manual). I'd try to negotiate him down at least the cost of the 6K service. Besides that it's a hell of a fun and easy bike to ride. (Not sure if that year came with the APTC "slipper" clutch). Also a great bike to mod to your hearts content. If its all in good order I'd say $3500

Valves are adjusted during the 6k service. I would talk him down the cost of the service and simply take the bike in early. Has anyone asked if you've seen it running?

I agree with this...but...

Be aware the bike needs a major service...belts and valve adjust.

It also needs new tires.

You need to add ~$1200 to the cost.

How do you feel about that bike now?

Oh yes. It started up from cold easily and idled beautifully. I test rode it and it shifted beautifully. The seller did say that when its cold, you have to give it a minute to idle after it starts before you take off or it acts a little funny.

The seller informed that the bike will be serviced on Tuesday. We'll see what happens. Hopefully valves and belts will be changed.

 [popcorn]

He should get a checklist with all the service items that were performed that should be kept by the owner (him then you) as part of the records showing that proper maintenance has been performed at the recommended intervals by a certified Ducati mechanic.

Hahaha. Ill keep you updated. Don't worry.

Absolutely. I already informed the seller that I want documentation of what is going to be done. I already have PDFs of the previous service.