Title: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: El-Twin on August 27, 2013, 07:48:35 AM A disturbing trend has developed on my rides this summer, and the time has come to act.
At about 80-90 miles, wrist pain sets in. I've tried all manner of anti-inflammatories, but haven't found the Magic Bullet. When the focus of the ride switches to pain, concentration is lost, and a fix must be found. I thought about a quick and easy approach like some wrist wraps, but I think this would just band-aid the situation. So I'm looking at a handlebar swap, and I'd like to know about others' experiences. When I sit in a chair and hold out my arms on imaginary bars, the angles are all quite different from the OEM Monster bars. I think this is what I need. More sweep-back, a lower bend, and maybe a bit of rise. I seek enlightenment from the wisdom pool.... Any recommendations? Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handle Bar Swap? Post by: Raux on August 27, 2013, 08:14:25 AM is it both or just the right?
if it's just the right, look at the angle of your wrist on the throttle at those speeds. I use an eleactraeon throttle cam to reduce the twist is your grip loose or do you have death grip going? Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handle Bar Swap? Post by: El-Twin on August 27, 2013, 08:27:22 AM is it both or just the right? if it's just the right, look at the angle of your wrist on the throttle at those speeds. I use an eleactraeon throttle cam to reduce the twist is your grip loose or do you have death grip going? It's both wrists and my grip is always loose. Oh, and I meant 80-90 miles, not mph. ;D Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: Raux on August 27, 2013, 10:19:31 AM the bars you are describing, more of a sweep, lower bend, higher rise, could resemblt the rizoma bars.
most are reporting of good experiences with them. for taller, more swept bars, be wary of needing longer throttle/brake cables. Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: El-Twin on August 27, 2013, 10:32:03 AM the bars you are describing, more of a sweep, lower bend, higher rise, could resemblt the rizoma bars. most are reporting of good experiences with them. for taller, more swept bars, be wary of needing longer throttle/brake cables. Hmmmm... Rizomas. Anybody out there with first-hand experience? Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: Raux on August 27, 2013, 07:12:31 PM do a quick search in the accessories & mods section for them. you'll see pics and testimonials
Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: Curmudgeon on August 27, 2013, 08:10:50 PM Hmmmm... Rizomas. Anybody out there with first-hand experience? Where you been? 8) You might want to go with the 796 riser too if your EVO isn't late enough to have it. Bar is ~ 5/8" higher and sweep is ~ 2 1/2". MUCH better. I didn't pick mine up until all my tweaks were done. Not my first rodeo... (http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/282951-1/Rt_-Above.jpg) You may get a better sense of the angles here: http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=562 (http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=562) Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: El-Twin on August 28, 2013, 05:45:16 AM Thanks Raux & Curmudgeon. That's what I was looking for. [beer]
Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: oldndumb on August 28, 2013, 06:35:56 AM FHE
My experience with wrist pain on the Evo was similar as yours. No problem with my other two bikes. One of them had Rizomas, so I bought one for the Evo. After installing the Rizoma bar I have never had a problem with my wrists again. Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: El-Twin on August 28, 2013, 08:40:37 AM FHE My experience with wrist pain on the Evo was similar as yours. No problem with my other two bikes. One of them had Rizomas, so I bought one for the Evo. After installing the Rizoma bar I have never had a problem with my wrists again. Nice! [thumbsup] I think I have found my answer. :) Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: Curmudgeon on August 28, 2013, 09:06:51 AM Nice! [thumbsup] Does yours already have the taller 796 riser? If not, consider that too..., as in my snap above. Mine is # MA008A. Cables are long enough but need to be re-routed slightly.I think I have found my answer. :) You should also sit on the bike and let the dealer drill the locating holes for the controls so that you can adjust the mirrors properly. Your racer kid in Santa Barbara ought to be able to handle THAT for you... ;) Just don't get some jerk to do it or your throttle may open in the middle of a right turn. 8) Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: JEFF_H on August 28, 2013, 09:18:54 AM FYI- the model they are talking about is MA005
Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: Curmudgeon on August 28, 2013, 09:36:46 AM FYI- the model they are talking about is MA005 MA008 has 20mm more rise than MA005, right? El-twin is not as old as I, but he's still an old fart. ;) I could still use another 10mm but didn't care for the mix of mods required to achieve that.You are selling MA005 as the "touring" version? Why not MA008? BTW, the silver one looks stock..., only better! 8) Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: El-Twin on August 28, 2013, 10:11:20 AM Does yours already have the taller 796 riser? I don't know how the 1100 EVO riser compares to the 796 version. But I do want some more rise, so I will investigate. Your racer kid in Santa Barbara ought to be able to handle THAT for you... Carlin Dunne is a hell of a racer (he is the all-time Pikes Peak champion, after all), and I respect that. And I do get very good service from his and his dad's shop. So I've decided to use their services for this. El-twin is not as old as I, but he's still an old fart. ;) I think I am as old as you are, which puts me in solid old fart territory. ;D Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: El-Twin on August 28, 2013, 10:17:38 AM FYI- the model they are talking about is MA005 Thanks Jeff. Yes, it's the MA005 that I'm looking at because it has a 20 mm lower bend than the MA008, and 2 degrees more sweep-back (if I'm understanding this correctly). Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: Curmudgeon on August 28, 2013, 10:20:41 AM Sometime between 2011 and 2012 Ducati fitted the 796 riser to the EVO. You might already have it but you'll need to compare if you can't see from the snap I posted.
Thought you were still working? You can't be THAT old! [roll] Bear in mind, I'm very high-mileage... Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: El-Twin on August 28, 2013, 10:30:20 AM Sometime between 2011 and 2012 Ducati fitted the 796 riser to the EVO. You might already have it but you'll need to compare if you can't see from the snap I posted. Thought you were still working? You can't be THAT old! [roll] Bear in mind, I'm very high-mileage... I will compare risers down at the shop and get the tallest one. And I am still working, but I'm getting to the point of just playing the game. So yes, I am that old. :o Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: Curmudgeon on August 28, 2013, 10:36:07 AM Thanks Jeff. Yes, it's the MA005 that I'm looking at because it has a 20 mm lower bend than the MA008, and 2 degrees more sweep-back (if I'm understanding this correctly). Pity Rizoma doesn't give you a comparison with stock "New Monster" too but I suppose they don't merely sell to us. The stock bar is pretty straight though. Not sure whether you can feel those extra 2 degrees of sweep but I KNOW you can feel the difference in rise.BTW, the wrist angle is quite natural on mine and I didn't hear any complaints from my son who's 6' 3" and has bad wrists when he rode it 80+ miles one afternoon. If there had been the "slightest" issue..., I'd have heard... ;D Shy he ain't... Title: Re: 1100 EVO Handlebar Swap? Post by: El-Twin on August 28, 2013, 10:45:52 AM Pity Rizoma doesn't give you a comparison with stock "New Monster" too but I suppose they don't merely sell to us. The stock bar is pretty straight though. This is why the pictures that you and others post up are so helpful. And the stock bar is definitely quite straight. Feels good at first but after a while, not so much. At least for those of us higher up on the antique scale. :) |