Ducati Monster Forum

I really like what I'm seeing:

http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/fascination/nineT/main.html (http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/fascination/nineT/main.html)

Link didn't work for me.

Works for me, it's a fancy website that probably takes a boatload of browser sorcery to work.

Nice, but the engine layout.
OTOH, you could cook some steaks on those cylinders sticking out of the frame  ;D

Nice fresh Beemer. Still won't trade my little monster for it.

that's how i feel - i could never get past those cylinders before.  i do like this one quite a bit better than some of the other machines with similar configurations - i could actually see my self rippin around on one of those.

upon closer inspection, it's really not that bad from any angle other than the front...they kind of look like wings from there.
and its a bummer they cover up that sweet single sided swingarm..

Reminds me a lot of the Moto Guzzi Griso.

Website was down earlier.

Works fine now!
So this is the lorider finally in production!!!
I've been waiting for this bike.

+1

Not really a fan, but will go test ride one. [evil]

Let's add some pics to this thread.  I love it.  It is a great looking standard with a nice stance and a round headlight.  It really isn't that hard to make a good looking bike.  They must have locked the German designers out of the room.  I'm really surprised that nobody funked this up.
 
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http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/616/17217/Motorcycle-Article/BMW-Unveils-2014-R-nineT-Roadster.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/616/17217/Motorcycle-Article/BMW-Unveils-2014-R-nineT-Roadster.aspx)

No word on pricing yet.
A poster on ADVrider posted a price of 15k euros on the other side of the pond.
I'm guessing US pricing will be in the $20k ball park.  :P

Performance looks solid too.
Standard ABS.
110 hp
88 lb/ft of torque
[Dolph]

(http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/BMW-R-nineT-99.jpg)

(http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/bmw-r-ninet-mega-gallery/bmw-r-ninet-82.jpg)

Full resolution photos here
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/bmw-r-ninet-photos/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/bmw-r-ninet-photos/)

I just don't dig it. They seem to be going for the older Monster look, but then you leave a gap between headlight and cluster, the frame is kinda all over the place and don't get me started on the engine. The tank is too big as well.

I like it, but I like the Griso a lot better. They won't sell many for $20K though...I'm guessing more around $14K.

 I wish they would bring the R1200S back, only lighter weight. Regardless of what you think of the flat twin, it makes a very nice back road tool. Very much like the 2 valve Ducati motor!

How can something like this be nice?
It's larger than an aircraft carrier  [thumbsdown]


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What did he said?
 ???


Things I would do on that bike:
1. Remove large OEM mirrors.
2. Add bar-end mirrors.
3. Change controls to clip-ons.
4. Ride it!!

 Mass centralization is what makes those things work so well. If you can't get past the look, you miss out!

I think they did a fantastic job designing it. Great mix of old and new. The tail light looks great, the monoshock looks great (and probably works great). Really cool "new school" bike.

 [thumbsup]

The proportion is all wrong [thumbsdown] , its quite UGLY  [puke].

I really dig it.  With clip-ons it would be gorgeous.  But $14K is BS, too much for me.

Like this?

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rickmch/BMW%20Boxer/IMG_1154_zpsc24d97fb.jpg) (http://s738.photobucket.com/user/rickmch/media/BMW%20Boxer/IMG_1154_zpsc24d97fb.jpg.html)

it's growing on me pretty quickly - i like the mono seat quite a bit.

Ducati need to take note and make a Monster Classic, full trellis frame, classic style, modelled on the original, round headlight, dual sided swingarm, pipes each side, air/oil cooled 1100/1200 motor,  Ohlins all round, all the good Brembos and electronics without it looking like it.
BMW are to be commended for having a go in this direction.

However, the 1993 900 Monster was a game changer.
Did someone say cough, Teutonic rip off, cough, cough? ;D

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 Yes... makethebeastwithtwobacksin' - A ! ... YES!

Yep that's hot. Needs nothing but 1 LH bar end mirror and it's done. Mmm.

If I had the scratch, I'd have a hard time turning this one down.

Yep.

My thoughts exactly.

Yes, it's such hell to have to remove ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to get to the valves for a simple locknut/screw adjustment.  :-*  [drink]

I agree with half of this.
Yes, the Monster was a game changer in 1993.

No, it's not a ripoff.
The basic concept of a cafe racer moto was not conceptualized by Ducati in 1993. It goes much further back than 1993.

Good on BMW for recognizing the retro trend and delivering.

And I think I've been reading in other forums that BMW will price this below the 1200R model, so less than $14k.

I long for a screw locknut adjustment.  [evil] Last time was 1991 on an old Bonneville.

Yeah you're right Pedrobot, it looked like a rip off from the front, but not from the side.

Which does not make it any easier to the eye.

Agreed.

I think it's mainly the tank with which I have an issue.  The Sport 1000 was much prettier.

I prefer the look of my Monster over the nineT.

That's ok, I thought the 1/2 Trellis Monsters were pretty ugly for a long time too... I still think the full-trellis/round-headlight models are better looking.

At least this BMW has a good looking headlight.  :D

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/horex-vr6-classic/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/horex-vr6-classic/)

Such a steep price tag for that Horex.

wow no kidding. Strange design for a 160HP bike also, no protection whatsoever. I just thought it was funny how these 2 German brands put out these 2 extremely similar bikes at the same time.

I dig the new Beemer.  [thumbsup]  Would rock that in a heartbeat.  May have to go try one on.

That Horex VR6 is cool, too.  Mostly for the motor... I loved the 2.8 VR6 in my '98 GTI (just didn't really like the porky car wrapped around it).  I bet it sounds killer with a set of opened-up pipes.

 It's too bad that the Beemer isn't more like the prototype R90S,
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/bmw-concept-ninety/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/bmw-concept-ninety/)

Agreed! That's gorgeous and would likely get me to add a fourth air-cooled twin variant to the fleet!

Cool, only 20 years after Ducati did it, BMW is presenting a Monster. Just in time ...  [thumbsup] [Dolph] [clap] ;D

 [popcorn]

 :o

WANT.

And I want to park it next to an MH900E.

 After the tank of the prototype, why on earth did they make the production version SO ugly? BMW seems to be allergic to nice looking products!

it's really growing on me, even the horizontal engine.  I still dont understand the exhaust...that left side looks so nice, I want to open it up. id run it super naked. get rid of the rear pillon, the front fender, shorty exhaust, bar end mirrors. just a seat, wheels and motor.

I like it a lot.  BMW guys typically like Ducati's and vice versa.  I have both.  We are drawn to these brands because of the quality, high performance, and attention to detail.  And also because we're euro trash.

Stopped by the local dealer to inquire on pricing.
No final figures on pricing have been released by BMW. However, BMW has released info that it will be priced below the R 1200, so less than $14k.
So I'm gonna say $13,999.  :

Dealer confirmed this will be a limited run, likely just this 2014 model year. Production to end when all 1200cc air cooled motors are gone. BMW has switched to water cooled for the new 1200cc motors.

The only option on these bikes will be an anti-theft alarm.

I represent that statement.   ;D

 [laugh]  +1

I like this bike a lot and betcha it's big fun.

When they remove the tail piece it looks like a bee that's stung something and lost half it's ass, other than that the styling is agreeable for me, once you put some bar end mirrors on it.

The real question on this site is, how many guys would trade their Monster for it?  Not me.  Admiring is different than wanting.

If they ever pave the road out here, or if I move back to a paved/civilized setting, I would go try one on for size.  I don't physically fit the Monster very well (the closest being the S2R1000), and I am still not a fan of the "new Monster" styling.   Honestly, based on pics, I prefer the NineT to the current Monsters.

So yeah, if life circumstances were different, I'd go try it on and consider purchasing one.

Its growing on me. Cant wait to see it in the flesh & take it out for a spin.

That's not just a gas tank.  It's a compartment for your passenger, luggage, coffee mugs, iPad, GPS, satellite radio, radar detector, laser detector and homing beacon.

Well, shit.  Where am I going to put my commemorative civil war chess set, my lucky anvil and my collection of vintage cannonballs?

does the NineT automatically enroll you in the Pipe and Slipper club? I remember a great amount of discussion about this in my racing org when the K1 came out.

Hey now, there ain't nothin' wrong with enjoying a pipe whilst wearing slippers & a robe. (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxcJ7OhF7kBsHbgN0DDF-Go4BKRn2G2EOUGfWPkZY2KV90-Vy2)

Well, of course.

And it offers a free first year of membership in OCD Anonymous.

(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/prototype-spy-concept/2009-BMW-LoRiderConceptb.jpg)

Kept me waiting long enough. Too bad my money went elsewhere first.