I'm trying to come up with a table to determine engine size and model year from just the engine number.
I've searched online, and not found any help.
So if you can, check the first four digits of your engine number, and report it here along with year and engine size.
Most helpful if you're the original owner, as pre-owned bikes can have had undisclosed engine swaps....
But still report it if you're not, as engine swaps aren't real common.
For example, the first 4 digits RC3X mean it's a '99 M750.
TIA! [beer]
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ROUGH DRAFT TABLE
Years, 4th digit 1991 = m 1992 = N 1993 = q 1994 = r 1995 = s 1996 = t 1997 = v 1998 = W 1999 = X 2000 = Y
| 2001 = 1 2002 = 2 2003 = 2004 = 2005 = 5 2006 = 6 2007 = 2008 = 2009 = 9 2010 = A | 2011 = 2012 = 2013 = D 2014 = 2015 = 2016 = G 2017 = |
***** UPPERCASE are verified, lowercase are inferred, some letters may be skipped *****
First 3 digits, Model: RA2 = Injected M620
RAD = Injected M695, M696
RC3 = Carbie M750 RA3 = Injected M750 H74 = Injected 748R SBK SB3 = Injected 748 SBK UB3 = Injected 749 SBK
RAA = Injected M800 LAA = Injected 800SS | XBG = Injected 848SBK 1BM = Injected 848SF HB6 = Injected 851SBK
RC4 = Carbie M900 RA4 = Injected M900 LC4 = Carbie 900SS PC4 = Carbie E900 RB8 = Injected S4 (916) SB8 = Injected 916 SBK
SB5 = Injected 996 SBK RB5 = Injected 999 S4Rs RAB = Injected M1000 WAB = Injected SC1000 | XBE = Injected 1098SBK
YAC = Injected Multi 1100
RBS = Injected M1200
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Where's the number stamped at?
Quote from: ChrisK on February 21, 2014, 11:23:07 PM
Where's the number stamped at?
On the left side of the crankcase, below the alternator cover.
It'll be something like RC3X014529.
First 4 digits are all that's relevant to model and year.
Last 6 digits are sequential to identify a particular engine, and not useful.
Service manuals have info that's helpful if it's a non-USA model, but insufficient detail for USA models.
95 M900
ZDM904A2C
Cool, thanks!
Anyone else? [popcorn]
I'll dig mine out of the rubble in the barn tomorrow.
96 M 900 and an '01 996.
2002 620 RA22
2003 800ss LAA5 (Bought the engine which was sold as a 2003 but the year may be wrong.)
Eeeeexcellent, thank you both. :)
Thorn14, the '5' of the LAA5 denotes a 2005 engine, from what I've found.
ZDM904A2C. same as Koko
Late 97 900 (has 3 phase from new)
'07 695: ZDM6
ZDM1
2009 M1100.
[thumbsup]
Was confused why my numbers seemed different to others, and I was researching, and I'm seeing that the country the bike is imported to matters, as the numbers are different for US vs other countries. The ZDM standing for only appears on my US frame, my engine begins at model of bike (monster). I figure I may as well share this info from two sources.
http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index.cfm?fa=contentGeneric.zvfiihryhlqbrzht&pageId=2255673 (http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index.cfm?fa=contentGeneric.zvfiihryhlqbrzht&pageId=2255673)
One I found which I hadn't seen before... showing the differences between numbers.
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/80-hall-wisdom/27112-ducati-vins-decoded.html (http://www.ducati.ms/forums/80-hall-wisdom/27112-ducati-vins-decoded.html)
The first link in google which I assume you've seen Speeddog.
nick is asking for usa style engine numbers, which are different to the euro ones.
zdmxxxx does not apply to the usa.
2000 900Sie RA4Y
1992 900SS LC4N
1996 M900 RC4T
2000 or 2001...not sure and can't get to the vin right now...996 Bi Posto SB5Y
'01 750 RC31 or I, not sure.
Nick
You want just US numbers or going international for the archives?
Quote from: koko64 on February 23, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Nick
You want just US numbers or going international for the archives?
Originally I was thinking just US, as the numbers are less obviously informative, and not explained by official documentation (that I've found).
But there's no reason to exclude the rest of the world in this, we're all in this mess together. ;D
2000 M 900ie RA4Y
98 M900 RC4W
2005 M620 ZDM620A2B
2006 S2R1000 RAB6
euro # are different, and all follow the same style from 1989 onwards.
first three letters just mean ducati.
then comes capacity in cc. there are a few variations to this. 400 are 398cc, but have 400, 600 are 583cc, but have 600, 906 paso have 906 for 900 6 speed.
then cooling, Air or Water
then # of valves per cylinder
then variant
then engine number in sequence, 6 digits.
ZDM 600 A 2 C 005678. ducati, 600cc, air cooled, 2 valves, carby, #005678
ZDM400A2Cxxxxxx 400ss, m400 carby
ZDM400A2xxxxxx m400 injected
ZDM600A2Cxxxxxx 600ss, m600
ZDM620A2xxxxxx 620 sport, m620ie
ZDM620A2Bxxxxxx m620ie (6 speed i assume)
ZDM659A2xxxxxx m659
ZDM695A2xxxxxx m695
ZDM696A2xxxxxx m696
ZDM748A2Cxxxxxx 750ss, m750 carb
ZDM748A2xxxxxx 750ssie, m750ie
ZDM796A2xxxxxx hm796 i'm guessing, don't have one on file
ZDM796A2Bxxxxxx m796
ZDM800A2xxxxxx 800ss, m800
ZDM904A2Cxxxxxx 900ss carb, m900 carb
ZDM904A2xxxxxx 900ssie
ZDM904A2Kxxxxxx m900ie, mhe. k denotes close ratio gearbox
ZDM906W2Cxxxxxx 906 paso
ZDM906W2Ixxxxxx 907ie, only I variant afaik
ZDM944W2xxxxxx st2
ZDM992A2xxxxxx 1000ssie, m1000ie, s2r1000, sc1000, gt1000, mts1000
ZDM1078A2xxxxxx mts1100
ZDM1078ABxxxxxx hm1100
ZDM1078ACxxxxxx m1100
ZDM1078ADxxxxxx hm1100evo
ZDM1078AExxxxxx m1100evo
ZDM992W3xxxxxx st3
ZDM748W4xxxxxx 748, 748sp
ZDM748W4Bxxxxxx 748r
ZDM749W4xxxxxx 749
ZDM749W4Bxxxxxx 749s
ZDM749W4Cxxxxxx 749r
ZDM848W4xxxxxx 848
ZDM848W4Bxxxxxx 848 evo
ZDM848W4Cxxxxxx sf848
ZDM851W4xxxxxx ?, 1989 851sp i assume
ZDM851W4Bxxxxxx 851 strada
ZDM888W4xxxxxx 851 sp2/3, 888sp4. not sure if sp5 is this or a C variant
ZDM888W4Bxxxxxx 888 strada
ZDM916W4xxxxxx 916, 916sp
ZDM916W4Cxxxxxx st4
ZDM916W4Dxxxxxx ms4, (st4 with close ratio gearbox)
ZDM996W4xxxxxx 996, 916sps, 996sps
ZDM996W4Bxxxxxx st4s, ms4r
ZDM998W4xxxxxx 998, 999 03 - 04
ZDM998W4Bxxxxxx 998s, 999s, 999 2005>
ZDM998W4Cxxxxxx s4rs, s4rt
ZDM1098W4xxxxxx 1098, 1098s
ZDM1098W4Bxxxxxx sf1098
ZDM1198W4xxxxxx 1098r
ZDM1198W4Bxxxxxx 1198, 1198s
ZDM1198W4Cxxxxxx mts1200 (diavel also i think)
rab3
2003 monster 1000 dss
was gunna post the monster and 748, but Brad has it covered with his post.
they're the same as he has written...
So on the US models the 3rd number is the displacement and 4th is the year it was built.
As Nick has posted the dates are the same as the vin so prior to 2001 you have a letter for the year. from 2001 onward you have the year (number).
3rd number does not seem to matter if it is a monster or a supersport, they are only concerned with displacement.
900 = 4
996 = 5
750 = 3 (note a 748 is the same as a 750 2 valve as they both are 748cc)
620 = 2
800 = A
851 = 6
916 = 8
1000 = B (should be both 2 and 3 valve)
695 = D
My 650 has a completely different engine number and the ducati engine in the grand canyon has a non-US type engine number ZDM*****
Good for finding out if that 996 cases are a 748 or a 996, though you have to watch out still as I have a 900 that is an 853 and a 620 that may soon be a 795 and a 695 that could easily become an 800. I have also built 916 cases into an 851 and 748's into 916's.
I think we've almost got the Magic Decoder Ring assembled. :)
03/05/14 Updated table in 1st post
And then Ducati throws you a curve..........
Just noticed my new trackday cases engine VIN starts with H74
Should be 900 cc engine by what we have found right?
Sorry it is a 748R
So maybe the trend is only for standard production cases.
Oh and the 851 cases I have start with HB6
I know you already have this info in the table, but here is mine anyway:
2001 M900Sie. Fourth owner; I know the third didn't swap the engine but can't speak for other two. That said, nothing in maintenance records I inherited suggest a swap.
RA41