I never used the clutch to upshift when racing and since then have never used it on my m1100, just curious if any else does this? Any had any issues from this or horror stories, the tranny is well built and synched, and i have never had issues missing gears.
I use mine for 1st to 2nd but rarely for any other upshift. I use it more, but not exclusively, for downshifts. On the other hand, ignore what I say as I don't know what I'm talking about!
Yeah, fair enough, unless i am launching i probably do sometimes with 1st to 2nd. Blipping to match downshift, but i am too scared to not using downshifting. I feel like if i go up and miss then just let off throttle, but if i go down and miss then the back will continue to grind gears or lock until pull in the clutch. I see you have the same engine and tranny, just curious if this applies across most ducs.
sometimes I just leave the throttle pinned WFO and feather the clutch to grab another gear...
On my Triumph I just punch the kill button!
Interestingly I don't think I've ever upshifted and not pulled in the clutch. Does it affect the engine in any way?
I don't use the clutch to upshift on either of my Ducs...
96 M900 and a 2K 996.
I've downshifted some without, but it's more comfortable using it for downshifts.
I know, kinda useless and not really tech, but i wanted to see if this was common for ducs as well. It was also different racing since i didnt really care if the bike exploded or not, it was just a tool to get from A to B faster than anybody else. The duc to me is more art.
I use the clutch but just barely. Sometimes no clutch in lower gears, butt mostly just a light pull, not a full disengage. I'm an old phart, tho, so not much help.......
Quote from: zippsub9 on May 08, 2014, 06:40:45 PM
the tranny is well built and synched, and i have never had issues missing gears.
umm, most moto g/bs, including the monsters, do not have synchros. they are different to car trannys..
as a result, done correctly, there ought be no issues with clutchless upshifts.
doing it hamfisted (i.e. not letting up on the throttle at the right time) or botching the shift is another story.
I don't know if it's a related issue but while doing track days and heavy flogging, I've found ends of clutch springs on the drain plug magnet. Most of that was the springs, they were Barnett. Since going back to factory springs, no issue. But the shock on the clutch could have been popping them off.
i always use the clutch. it's never occurred to me not to.
Always use the clutch, mechanical empathy...and the person in the above post gets enough service work from me.......
I just ditched the clutch lever assembly, and installed a cup holder :D
Nah, I always use the clutch.
Quote from: HotIce on May 16, 2014, 06:30:15 AM
I just ditched the clutch lever assembly, and installed a cup holder :D
Nah, I always use the clutch.
hahaha, any pics to that? Your comment should be moved to Mods :D
Constantly shift up and down without the clutch, especially on longer rides on the highway when I'm riding with one hand on the throttle and my left hand on my thigh or hip, or when I'm holding the EZ pass up in the air. I think doing it smoothly and "with purpose" won't harm the GB... don't half-ass it and get caught between gears though. lots of bad sounds.
Rarely use the clutch on any upshift over 2nd gear for any bike I ride including a 1971 CB500. No ill effects on any bike to date
How is this accomplished exactly? I drive a manual vehicle and i can do it in it, is it the same concept rev match and pop it up into gear?
Just close the throttle and shift on the upshift.
Shifting down requires a bit more finesse to get it smooth.
Wait, thats it? I don't have to do anything else?
Quote from: brad black on May 16, 2014, 02:49:24 AM
i always use the clutch. it's never occurred to me not to.
This.