Anyone use the clutch to upshift???

Started by zippsub9, May 08, 2014, 06:40:45 PM

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zippsub9

I never used the clutch to upshift when racing and since then have never used it on my m1100, just curious if any else does this?  Any had any issues from this or horror stories, the tranny is well built and synched, and i have never had issues missing gears.

StephenC

I use mine for 1st to 2nd but rarely for any other upshift.  I use it more, but not exclusively, for downshifts.  On the other hand, ignore what I say as I don't know what I'm talking about!
Ducati Monster 1100S (2009)

zippsub9

Yeah, fair enough, unless i am launching i probably do sometimes with 1st to 2nd.  Blipping to match downshift, but i am too scared to not using downshifting.  I feel like if i go up and miss then just let off throttle, but if i go down and miss then the back will continue to grind gears or lock until pull in the clutch.  I see you have the same engine and tranny, just curious if this applies across most ducs.

manwithgun


sometimes I just leave the throttle pinned WFO and feather the clutch to grab another gear...
I ride both kinds,   Country, and Western.....

SpikeC

 On my Triumph I just punch the kill button!
Spike Cornelius
  PDX
   2009 M1100S Assorted blingy odds and ends(now gone)
2008 Bimota DB5R  woo-Hoo!
   1965 T100SC

696DCRider

Interestingly I don't think I've ever upshifted and not pulled in the clutch.  Does it affect the engine in any way?

ducpainter

I don't use the clutch to upshift on either of my Ducs...

96 M900 and a 2K 996.

I've downshifted some without, but it's more comfortable using it for downshifts.
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zippsub9

I know, kinda useless and not really tech, but i wanted to see if this was common for ducs as well.  It was also different racing since i didnt really care if the bike exploded or not, it was just a tool to get from A to B faster than anybody else.  The duc to me is more art.

SpikeC

 I use the clutch but just barely. Sometimes no clutch in lower gears, butt mostly just a light pull, not a full disengage. I'm an old phart, tho, so not much help.......
Spike Cornelius
  PDX
   2009 M1100S Assorted blingy odds and ends(now gone)
2008 Bimota DB5R  woo-Hoo!
   1965 T100SC

wankski

Quote from: zippsub9 on May 08, 2014, 06:40:45 PM
the tranny is well built and synched, and i have never had issues missing gears.

umm, most moto g/bs, including the monsters, do not have synchros. they are different to car trannys..

as a result, done correctly, there ought be no issues with clutchless upshifts.

doing it hamfisted (i.e. not letting up on the throttle at the right time) or botching the shift is another story.

MotoPsycho

I don't know if it's a related issue but while doing track days and heavy flogging, I've found ends of clutch springs on the drain plug magnet. Most of that was the springs, they were Barnett. Since going back to factory springs, no issue. But the shock on the clutch could have been popping them off.
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brad black

i always use the clutch.  it's never occurred to me not to.
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madalf71

Always use the clutch, mechanical empathy...and the person in the above post gets enough service work from me.......

HotIce

I just ditched the clutch lever assembly, and installed a cup holder :D

Nah, I always use the clutch.

Le Germain

Quote from: HotIce on May 16, 2014, 06:30:15 AM
I just ditched the clutch lever assembly, and installed a cup holder :D

Nah, I always use the clutch.


hahaha, any pics to that? Your comment should be moved to Mods :D